Looking at game again first 3 drives, Romo choked...

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Q_the_man;3243193 said:
B4 halftime, 2nd and 11, Viking blitz no one within 4 yards of Romo, throw off back foot, low to Witten for a catch.. 3rd and 3. Romo forces ball into triple coverage high to Austin incomplete, Choice wide open in the flats for easy firsy down, little pressure, but all it was was a quick shovel pass to Choice who would of easily pick up 1st.....


That pass went right through Austin's hands. He should have caught it.
 

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Dude, what are you watching?

Q_the_man;3243088 said:
BTW, I'm looking at game again...
First drive ball on 35 1st and 10, good protection, Romo holds ball to long instead of hanging in the pocket and stepping up he gets scared, looks lost, and fumbles....
The ends collapse hard and quick from outside and force him up in the pocket, just as Gurode literally turns and watches as the DT runs by him right into Romo. Romo didn't have a second to think, much less look downfield -- he was running all over the place.

2nd possesion ball on the 40, good protection, panicks and throws ball away.. then fumble snaps, no one touches him.....then instead of going for it on 4th and 1 we try a 50 yard FG---I know it was 48 but come on 4th and 1.....
On the second possession when we had the ball at "the 40" (it was actually the 39), Barber ran up the middle for 4 yards. There was no pass. Then we had the ball at the 35. At that point, Gurode turned during his snap, causing Romo to miss the snap. Then it's 3rd and 9 and Romo throws a pass just short of a first down. This was a designed quick pass to Austin, but Witten tipped it for some reason. I think there was a miscommunication on routes.

There is no play in that set of downs where he "panicks." I'm not sure what you were looking at.

3rd possesion, 1st and goal, 1st play wildcat, stupid...2nd and goal from the 8 shotgun formation, then 3 steps drop, panicks again, all he has to do is step up to the right had a whole passing lane, but spins left and gets sack... 3rd and goal from the 14, shotgun formation, drops back panicks again, all he had to do was step up and hit crayton over middle for TD, but Romo spins left again and throws ball away......
On the 2nd and goal, there was literally 1.6 seconds (I got a stop watch out) before Ray Edwards was in his face and moved him outside the pocket. As soon as he tried to roll out of the pocket he was sacked by the DT.

On the 3rd and goal (from the 10, not the 14), he had 2.0 seconds to get his pass off. He could NOT step up in the pocket because it was the inside of the pocket that was collapsing. Here the ends actually outran him, which is a good thing because it usually means there's room in the pocket. The only thing he COULD NOT do was step up. You really couldn't be more wrong.

The only reason why I bring this up because while looking at game I saw the same thing so I just had to watch the first 3 series again because that to me was the telling point of the game to me.... 3 times in scoring position, one lousy FG...

While they were getting a little pressure it was coming from containment outside and Romo kept rolling right in to it....TO me looking at game again at least the first 3 series of the game Romo looked scared and lost...
Seriously, you need to re-watch this stuff, because either you're confused or you have no idea what you're watching.
 

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big dog cowboy;3243178 said:
Then you are not going to like our next HC very much are you?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: I would literally cry....
 

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Q_the_man;3243193 said:
B4 halftime, 2nd and 11, Viking blitz no one within 4 yards of Romo, throw off back foot, low to Witten for a catch.. 3rd and 3. Romo forces ball into triple coverage high to Austin incomplete, Choice wide open in the flats for easy firsy down, little pressure, but all it was was a quick shovel pass to Choice who would of easily pick up 1st.....
You can sit there and pick on every Romo play if you want, but in the end football is a team sport and the team must play well. A QB can play like crap, but if the rest of the team plays the way they're supposed to the game can still be close. Prime example, Mark Sanchez and the Jets or Trent Dilfer and the Ravens. In the end it's a team game.
 

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theogt;3243202 said:
Dude, what are you watching?

The ends collapse hard and quick from outside and force him up in the pocket, just as Gurode literally turns and watches as the DT runs by him right into Romo. Romo didn't have a second to think, much less look downfield -- he was running all over the place.

On the second possession when we had the ball at "the 40" (it was actually the 39), Barber ran up the middle for 4 yards. There was no pass. Then we had the ball at the 35. At that point, Gurode turned during his snap, causing Romo to miss the snap. Then it's 3rd and 9 and Romo throws a pass just short of a first down. This was a designed quick pass to Austin, but Witten tipped it for some reason. I think there was a miscommunication on routes.

There is no play in that set of downs where he "panicks."

On the 2nd and goal, there was literally 1.6 seconds (I got a stop watch out) before Ray Edwards was in his face and moved him outside the pocket. As soon as he tried to roll out of the pocket he was sacked by the DT.

On the 3rd and goal (from the 10, not the 14), he had 2.0 seconds to get his pass off. He could NOT step up in the pocket because it was the inside of the pocket that was collapsing. Here the ends actually outran him. The only thing he COULD NOT do was step up.

Seriously, you need to re-watch this stuff, because either you're confused or you have no idea what you're watching.

Thanks for addressing this....I was going to but thought "It's just useless....".

Good job. Makes you wonder what kind of glasses they are watching the game with....
 

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Jimz31;3243210 said:
Thanks for addressing this....I was going to but thought "It's just useless....".

Good job. Makes you wonder what kind of glasses they are watching the game with....
Sometimes you sit and think some of our fans have no idea what they're watching when they make general statements.

Then they go and try to do a play by play analysis and confirm that they have idea what's going on on the field.
 

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theogt;3243202 said:
Dude, what are you watching?

The ends collapse hard and quick from outside and force him up in the pocket, just as Gurode literally turns and watches as the DT runs by him right into Romo. Romo didn't have a second to think, much less look downfield -- he was running all over the place.

On the second possession when we had the ball at "the 40" (it was actually the 39), Barber ran up the middle for 4 yards. There was no pass. Then we had the ball at the 35. At that point, Gurode turned during his snap, causing Romo to miss the snap. Then it's 3rd and 9 and Romo throws a pass just short of a first down. This was a designed quick pass to Austin, but Witten tipped it for some reason. I think there was a miscommunication on routes.

There is no play in that set of downs where he "panicks." I'm not sure what you were looking at.

On the 2nd and goal, there was literally 1.6 seconds (I got a stop watch out) before Ray Edwards was in his face and moved him outside the pocket. As soon as he tried to roll out of the pocket he was sacked by the DT.

On the 3rd and goal (from the 10, not the 14), he had 2.0 seconds to get his pass off. He could NOT step up in the pocket because it was the inside of the pocket that was collapsing. Here the ends actually outran him. The only thing he COULD NOT do was step up.

Seriously, you need to re-watch this stuff, because either you're confused or you have no idea what you're watching.
You crazy he had Crayton open for that 3rd and goal up the middle... Once again shotgun formation and he panicks and rolls out throw ball away....

On 2nd and 6 all Romo had to do was step up to the right but spins into the sack....

Look at the game again Romo choked.
 

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Jimz31;3243142 said:
He has to deal with poor o-line play all year and I'd say that they have adjusted to it by making routes shorter, etc....The Vikings don't come with the same game-plan against every team and we don't have the same game-plan that the Packers use....so stupid point, IMO.

Agreed. The oline for the Packers is horrible for most of the year, but they were not running shorter routes. Ro

Perhaps the reason why they were able to move the ball against the Vikes, unlike our team is that the Packers have a better QB and WR corp then we do. Just a thought.
 

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Q_the_man;3243223 said:
You crazy he had Crayton open for that 3rd and goal up the middle... Once again shotgun formation and he panicks and rolls out throw ball away....

On 2nd and 6 all Romo had to do was step up to the right but spins into the sack....

Look at the game again Romo choked.
Seriously, just quit.

You like like an idiot right now. It's almost shocking how you can't see at all what is going on in the play.
 

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theogt;3243202 said:
Dude, what are you watching?

The ends collapse hard and quick from outside and force him up in the pocket, just as Gurode literally turns and watches as the DT runs by him right into Romo. Romo didn't have a second to think, much less look downfield -- he was running all over the place.

On the second possession when we had the ball at "the 40" (it was actually the 39), Barber ran up the middle for 4 yards. There was no pass. Then we had the ball at the 35. At that point, Gurode turned during his snap, causing Romo to miss the snap. Then it's 3rd and 9 and Romo throws a pass just short of a first down. This was a designed quick pass to Austin, but Witten tipped it for some reason. I think there was a miscommunication on routes.

There is no play in that set of downs where he "panicks." I'm not sure what you were looking at.

On the 2nd and goal, there was literally 1.6 seconds (I got a stop watch out) before Ray Edwards was in his face and moved him outside the pocket. As soon as he tried to roll out of the pocket he was sacked by the DT.

On the 3rd and goal (from the 10, not the 14), he had 2.0 seconds to get his pass off. He could NOT step up in the pocket because it was the inside of the pocket that was collapsing. Here the ends actually outran him, which is a good thing because it usually means there's room in the pocket. The only thing he COULD NOT do was step up. You really couldn't be more wrong.

Seriously, you need to re-watch this stuff, because either you're confused or you have no idea what you're watching.
Great analysis. If people didn't see this watching the game I don't know what they were watching. In the end if defensive players are in the backfield before you've taken your second or third step after taking the snap then you're screwed.
 

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Jimz31;3243136 said:
We can't tell from watching on TV, but I'd like to know if the WR's were getting open. I have a feeling that they weren't.


Well according to Jimmy and co. at half time as well as Troy there were WR open quit a bit.

Plenty of blame to go around, I have no problem with Romo having an off day (he will have them and he had been on fire before + his O line was terrible even before Flo left). What I do have a problem with is Jason Garrett's play calling which had more to do with our loss than the rest of the factors combined.
 

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Gzus;3243207 said:
You can sit there and pick on every Romo play if you want, but in the end football is a team sport and the team must play well. A QB can play like crap, but if the rest of the team plays the way they're supposed to the game can still be close. Prime example, Mark Sanchez and the Jets or Trent Dilfer and the Ravens. In the end it's a team game.

Sanchez and Dilfer didn't fumble 3 times and throw INT in 4 of the first 5 possesions.... Call it what yall want, I'm not sugar coating anything, we lost, but Romo choked and Red cannot coach himself out of a paper bag...

We have a top 5 offense but cannot score, something wrong with that...
 

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casmith07;3243167 said:
The Packers also went home a week earlier than we did.

Point being?

Thanks for the clarification. How could I forget that they lost to Minnesota the week before.
 

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Q_the_man;3243223 said:
You crazy he had Crayton open for that 3rd and goal up the middle... Once again shotgun formation and he panicks and rolls out throw ball away....

On 2nd and 6 all Romo had to do was step up to the right but spins into the sack....

Look at the game again Romo choked.

Like your sig says....you keep finding ten thousand ways that don't work.
 

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Q_the_man;3243223 said:
You crazy he had Crayton open for that 3rd and goal up the middle... Once again shotgun formation and he panicks and rolls out throw ball away....

On 2nd and 6 all Romo had to do was step up to the right but spins into the sack....

Look at the game again Romo choked.
You know there is a difference between what a QB sees and what you see on TV..... QB has defenders rushing at him, he's got his entire O-line in front of him. You're probably one of those fans who thought we should have kept Quincy Carter....
 

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speedkilz88;3243238 said:
The guy still hasn't gotten over Quincy.


I was gonna say... I dunno if Romo choked or if the line was just too porous
or if receivers werent getting open or what....

But when I was that Q_the_man was dogging on Romo I just LMAO and dismissed it.
 

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Q_the_man;3243234 said:
Sanchez and Dilfer didn't fumble 3 times and throw INT in 4 of the first 5 possesions.... Call it what yall want, I'm not sugar coating anything, we lost, but Romo choked and Red cannot coach himself out of a paper bag...

We have a top 5 offense but cannot score, something wrong with that...
When you have 20+ QB pressures and 6 sacks it's not the QB's fault. It's the O line. If you can find me a QB that won't turn over the ball and play like garbage when defenders are essentially camped in your backfield then you'd make one hell of a GM. Football 101: A QB can't do anything without O-line protection.
 

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dadymat;3243149 said:
if only Romo wouldve had Tivo to help him make his in game decisions like you do..........

NO qb performs under those situations


Laughable

I guess players and coaches never look at film and analyze it.... like we are doing here. Romo was off even prior to getting hit, simple observation.
 

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Doomsay;3243260 said:
Laughable

I guess players and coaches never look at film and analyze it.... like we are doing here. Romo was off even prior to getting hit, simple observation.
Truly an apt adjective.
 
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