Looking Back: Tyron Smith or JJ Watt?

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If protecting the QB is supremely important, then having a guy that teams pretty much can't protect their QB from seems like it would be just as important.

I don't think there's any right answer.

I like Watching Watt play when the Texans are on, which isn't all that often.
 

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I'm just glad that we can sit back and have this debate and be able to say I would take our player over JJ Watt and not get laughed off the board. There are at least 4 teams (maybe more) that are saying "imagine how much better we would be if we had taken Watt instead of the bust we selected"
 

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Why don't we examine that team he plays for right this second and the last few seasons and how much he's made the QB's job less valuable for that team.
Show me how much that team doesn't need a QB because of Watt.

And who's to say they are successful finding a good LT also? Maybe they aren't. Just as possible, maybe moreso.

dude they made the playoffs and are in playoff contention yearly b/c of watt and despite hacks at the qb position the last few years. if they get a decent qb, they will be a problem.

i think the cowboys would be successful finding a LT considering they found leary, martin, and frederick. good record there...
 

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Texans recently did so bad they got the number 1 pick to draft Clowney
 

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If protecting the QB is supremely important, then having a guy that teams pretty much can't protect their QB from seems like it would be just as important.

I don't think there's any right answer.

I like Watching Watt play when the Texans are on, which isn't all that often.

I like watching Watt's highlights after the game. Actually watching Texans games is like watching paint dry.
 

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dude they made the playoffs and are in playoff contention yearly b/c of watt and despite hacks at the qb position the last few years. if they get a decent qb, they will be a problem.

i think the cowboys would be successful finding a LT considering they found leary, martin, and frederick. good record there...

Second part- guessing and conjecture. You yourself have to admit that.
The first part- what happened in 2013? He was there, taking care of business all 16 games... 2-14... How much did he affect that season? Think a decent QB would have done something?
Maybe a win or two more? You put, say a Romo at the helm of that team?
2-14?
You think?
Or better?
 

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Second part- guessing and conjecture. You yourself have to admit that.
The first part- what happened in 2013? He was there, taking care of business all 16 games... 2-14... How much did he affect that season? Think a decent QB would have done something?
Maybe a win or two more? You put, say a Romo at the helm of that team?
2-14?
You think?
Or better?

lol so now the debate has become romo vs. watt?
 

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lol so now the debate has become romo vs. watt?

Nope. It's Watt vs protecting your franchise QB. Which I find exceedingly important as we are seeing right now.
What's more important? That's the debate.
You say Watt makes the QB less important.

I say hogwash. QB is always the most important piece on the team and 2013 basically proves it.
You take Watt away from that team and put in Brady (kind of equivalents at their respective positions, right?) as the QB and do you get a 2-14 season?

You respond.
 

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Nope. It's Watt vs protecting your franchise QB. Which I find exceedingly important as we are seeing right now.
What's more important? That's the debate.
You say Watt makes the QB less important.

I say hogwash. QB is always the most important piece on the team and 2013 basically proves it.
You take Watt away from that team and put in Brady (kind of equivalents at their respective positions, right?) as the QB and do you get a 2-14 season?

You respond.

you're argument is flawed b/c you're assuming no smith = no romo. plus you do realize romo has sustained 3 major injuries with tyron smith on the team? having a great LT doesn't guarantee you a healthy QB.

if you have watt on this team, then maybe all of those times our defense let us down in the final minutes when we're standing by the tv begging to the old gods and new that ware would make a play don't happen. at the end of the day, the cowboys haven't got to the next level the last few years due to our average to below average defense.
 

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you're argument is flawed b/c you're assuming no smith = no romo. plus you do realize romo has sustained 3 major injuries with tyron smith on the team? having a great LT doesn't guarantee you a healthy QB.

if you have watt on this team, then maybe all of those times our defense let us down in the final minutes when we're standing by the tv begging to the old gods and new that ware would make a play don't happen. at the end of the day, the cowboys haven't got to the next level the last few years due to our average to below average defense.

My argument is thus:
Take Watt away from that Houston team in 2013, and include all it's problems the team had and insert Aaron Rodgers as the QB.

2-14 season?

I am emphasizing protection of the franchise QB.
I know QB's still get injuries, but Aaron Rodgers on that team for 7 games would get that team to more than 2-14.
 

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you're argument is flawed b/c you're assuming no smith = no romo. plus you do realize romo has sustained 3 major injuries with tyron smith on the team? having a great LT doesn't guarantee you a healthy QB.

if you have watt on this team, then maybe all of those times our defense let us down in the final minutes when we're standing by the tv begging to the old gods and new that ware would make a play don't happen. at the end of the day, the cowboys haven't got to the next level the last few years due to our average to below average defense.

I protect my franchise QB first and then get after the QB second.
 

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dude they made the playoffs and are in playoff contention yearly b/c of watt and despite hacks at the qb position the last few years. if they get a decent qb, they will be a problem.

i think the cowboys would be successful finding a LT considering they found leary, martin, and frederick. good record there...

LOL, do you remember that year when they had the worse record in the league? So no they are not in playoff contention yearly. Also the Titans and Jags run out hacks yearly at the QB position. The only years the Texans went to the playoffs is when the Colts didn't have Manning in 2011 and when Luck was a rookie in 2012 despite playing in that trash of a division.
 

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LOL, do you remember that year when they had the worse record in the league? So no they are not in playoff contention yearly. Also the Titans and Jags run out hacks yearly at the QB position. The only years the Texans went to the playoffs is when the Colts didn't have Manning in 2011 and when Luck was a rookie in 2012 despite playing in that trash of a division.

Just what I'm saying.
My argument is flawed...
Sillyness.
 

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easy one Smith - who would we have at QB not Romo
 

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Just what I'm saying.
My argument is flawed...
Sillyness.

How the heck do you go 2-14 in that division when you have the greatest football player in the world and was many experts preseason favorite to go to the Superbowl?
 

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How the heck do you go 2-14 in that division when you have the greatest football player in the world and was many experts preseason favorite to go to the Superbowl ?

The Watt Effect.
No need to have or protect a QB with that guy around...

You too can go 2-14.
 

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Smith..


Even if Watt if Is better we need to keep Romo protected and what better than an All Pro LT.
 
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