Looking back: Was it a mistake not to go back to Romo

[Runwildboys]

Son I watched EVERY game Tony Chokamo played in that's right EVERY DAMN ONE and he choked so many times it's embarrassing to even mention the guy as one of the Cowboys all time quarterbacks. The guy threw so many picks in big time situations and it's a damn good thing he was Jerry's son otherwise he would have been gone!

There's a difference between choking and having to try to force something to happen because you can't depend on the guys around you.

 

[DandyDon52]

He doesn't have to give up, or even risk 4 billion dollars. He wants the SB win. The reason he wants to be in control is mostly because he thinks he knows how to do it. He's used to making decisions that make him wealthy, and he finds it difficult to trust someone else to do the job. Just because he's mistaken doesn't mean he doesn't care.

It is a classic case of jerry wanting to have his cake and eat it too.
Sure he wants to win a SB, all the owners do lol.
But the money is the top priority These owners all of them like to stack money more than stacking wins.
Jerry wants to be Gm and make tons of money, and win SB's , he wont give up the GM position to win a SB .
And if some coach said I will coach your team to a SB right now this year, but if I do you have to pay me 4 billion dollars.
Jerry would say no because the money means more to him than a SB win.

 

[CoachD]

I watched every game too, tony and dak, and usually watch each game 2-3 times.
I have seen qb's choke, but it is rare, and I dont think tony ever choked, he just made mistakes and with the predictable garrett offense it
is amazing he ever had winning seasons.

Well you obviously didn't see the Jets game where he threw it right to Revis or the Steelers game where Polomalo picked him off at the end or the Giants game in 07 playoff game where he threw a horrible pass into double coverage and another pick or the Broncos game where he threw for 500 yards but once again threw a pick to end it. There are just a few of many examples so my opinion about the Ultimate choke artist is now justified.

 

[CoachD]

There's a difference between choking and having to try to force something to happen because you can't depend on the guys around you.

Oh is that it you're now blaming it on everyone else that's your answer???

 

[OmerV]

I watched every game too, tony and dak, and usually watch each game 2-3 times.
I have seen qb's choke, but it is rare, and I dont think tony ever choked, he just made mistakes and with the predictable garrett offense it
is amazing he ever had winning seasons.

lol - how would you define choking if it isn't a mistake? All QB's, even the best ever, occasionally have made a mistake at a key point in a game.

 

[Runwildboys]

It is a classic case of jerry wanting to have his cake and eat it too.
Sure he wants to win a SB, all the owners do lol.
But the money is the top priority These owners all of them like to stack money more than stacking wins.
Jerry wants to be Gm and make tons of money, and win SB's , he wont give up the GM position to win a SB .
And if some coach said I will coach your team to a SB right now this year, but if I do you have to pay me 4 billion dollars.
Jerry would say no because the money means more to him than a SB win.

Show me one person who would give up 4 billion dollars for a SB win, and I'll dub you winner of the debate right now.

 

[Runwildboys]

Oh is that it you're now blaming it on everyone else that's your answer???

I'm saying Romo had to make a lot of plays while running for his life, and more often than not, that's when he turned the ball over.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

lol - how would you define choking if it isn't a mistake? All QB's, even the best ever, occasionally have made a mistake at a key point in a game.

Choking doesn't necessarily have to have a smoking gun mistake. It's more about under performing in a big moment or faltering in a situation that should be a foregone conclusion. The biggest choke from Tony's Cowboys probably has to be 2007, they lost to a team that they beat the tar out of in the regular season and were heavily favored against. There was no singular mistake, the team just played like crap and the Giants didn't. The general consensus biggest choke in NFL history, Super Bowl 51, also isn't really about mistakes.

 

[starfan1]

Some of you all take the poor Phil costa and McKenzie B and a couple others maybe 2011 or 12 and associate it to his entire career but he didn’t play with chopped liver his entire career in fact he played with pro bowlers early and late but don’t let the facts get in the way of your narrative

He played with some pretty suspect defenses but not every year quit making excuses like he had no culpability. He was just as much of the problem then as Dak is now.

the common denominator is Garrett

 

[OmerV]

Choking doesn't necessarily have to have a smoking gun mistake. It's more about under performing in a big moment or faltering in a situation that should be a foregone conclusion. The biggest choke from Tony's Cowboys probably has to be 2007, they lost to a team that they beat the tar out of in the regular season and were heavily favored against. There was no singular mistake, the team just played like crap and the Giants didn't. The general consensus biggest choke in NFL history, Super Bowl 51, also isn't really about mistakes.

I don't disagree that it isn't necessarily smoking gun mistakes, but underperforming really is based on mistakes. Maybe too many penalties, or starting slow because 1st downs weren't converted or players being out of position, or dropping a pass early in the game that gets lost in the shuffle without us ever knowing if a drive could have been maintained and momentum could have been different without the drop.

In any case, the comment I was responding to was about an individual player (Romo), not a team, and does anyone really think Romo never made a smoking gun mistake or underperformed or faltered in a situation that should have been a forgone conclusion. Even the best QBs of all times have had few moments like that, so do we really believe Romo is the one exception?

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I don't disagree that it isn't necessarily smoking gun mistakes, but underperforming really is based on mistakes. Maybe too many penalties, or starting slow because 1st downs weren't converted or players being out of position, or dropping a pass early in the game that gets lost in the shuffle without us ever knowing if a drive could have been maintained and momentum could have been different without the drop.

In any case, the comment I was responding to was about an individual player (Romo), not a team, and does anyone really think Romo never made a smoking gun mistake or underperformed or faltered in a situation that should have been a forgone conclusion. Even the best QBs of all times have had few moments like that, so do we really believe Romo is the one exception?

Of course not, but you're being disingenuous. The person is pushing back against the narrative that mouth breathing Dak slobbering clowns try to push that every single loss the Cowboys ever experienced ended with a Romo interception in the end zone that swung the game from a win to a loss. If we're being analytical, I'm not sure when Romo ever "choked" except the aforementioned Giants game. He played terrible and made mistakes in a whole lot of games that they were underdogs in and weren't particularly winnable in the first place, but he never pulled a Russell Wilson and threw the ball right to another guy in the Super Bowl. People think it's a Super Bowl stopping choke-crime that Romo threw an interception in a road game as underdogs that prevented a horrible 8-8 team from getting smoked in the playoffs the next week.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Oh is that it you're now blaming it on everyone else that's your answer???

Tony Romo made his share of mistakes. Dak has made his share as well and he has more in front of him.

Lots of posters on this board watch the Cowboys religiously. Many know the game pretty well, as well. Everybody sees things differently. Sometimes there is a right and sometimes there is a wrong, sometimes both are wrong, sometimes both are also right. Sometimes....... sometimes it rains but this ain't Baseball so we play anyhow.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Lol

Corso! I'm out of here brother. I hope you have a great evening...

 

[DandyDon52]

Show me one person who would give up 4 billion dollars for a SB win, and I'll dub you winner of the debate right now.

how about 1 billion?
well probably none of the owners, as they all worship money, but I would give it up for a SB win especially since being a owner
you could make the money back in a few years, and it isnt like they need all that money .
Logically there is no point in having money your not going to use. So buy a SB win, and you only pay if the win happens.

 

[Jake]

I wonder how things would have played out in 2016 if Romo got his job back once he became healthy.

Perhaps he could have taken the team all the way to the Superbowl like he almost did in 2014.

The Cowboys lost 34-31 in a game where Dak threw for 300 yards and 3 TDs.

Green Bay had four TD drives of 75 yards or more and Dak still managed to tie the game late...and the defense couldn't get it to overtime.

The Cowboys have never won a playoff game when the opponent scored 30 or more.

So unless Romo was going to play defense I'm not sure where this SB fantasy arises.

 

[pete026]

Of course not, but you're being disingenuous. The person is pushing back against the narrative that mouth breathing Dak slobbering clowns try to push that every single loss the Cowboys ever experienced ended with a Romo interception in the end zone that swung the game from a win to a loss. If we're being analytical, I'm not sure when Romo ever "choked" except the aforementioned Giants game. He played terrible and made mistakes in a whole lot of games that they were underdogs in and weren't particularly winnable in the first place, but he never pulled a Russell Wilson and threw the ball right to another guy in the Super Bowl. People think it's a Super Bowl stopping choke-crime that Romo threw an interception in a road game as underdogs that prevented a horrible 8-8 team from getting smoked in the playoffs the next week.

And they are only pushing back against the narrative the Romo smoking clowns have put forth in that if Romo was only allowed to come back in 2016, the Cowboys would have won the Superbowl that year. Not possibly, not maybe; they would have won it.

 

[DandyDon52]

Choking doesn't necessarily have to have a smoking gun mistake. It's more about under performing in a big moment or faltering in a situation that should be a foregone conclusion. The biggest choke from Tony's Cowboys probably has to be 2007, they lost to a team that they beat the tar out of in the regular season and were heavily favored against. There was no singular mistake, the team just played like crap and the Giants didn't. The general consensus biggest choke in NFL history, Super Bowl 51, also isn't really about mistakes.

The cowboys and romo had such a good season in 07 that they thought they were so good all they had to do was show up and play
and they would win.
Only problem was the giants came to town with a great defense, and they were not here to play but to win, and they kept winning all the way
to a SB victory. They wanted it more than dallas or the other teams they beat on the way.

 

[DFWJC]

A mistake going back to a career stat padder who was not a real leader and could never win a big game to save his life and could not take a single hit? Lmao. The depths of stupidity of this franchise is hilarious. We glorify someone not even as good as Philip Rivers as being some savior.

Dak's first ever playoff game against GB was better than any playoff game Romo had by far. Could Romo have did better than that? Nope. Could Romo have did better than a #1 seed? Of course not. Y'all weirdos talk like Dak had a meltdown in a playoff game when it was the defense who gave up 34pts and let GB score 3 straight TDs to open the game,

Good lord. Just stop.

Your ride is here!

 

[DFWJC]

Well you obviously didn't see the Jets game where he threw it right to Revis or the Steelers game where Polomalo picked him off at the end or the Giants game in 07 playoff game where he threw a horrible pass into double coverage and another pick or the Broncos game where he threw for 500 yards but once again threw a pick to end it. There are just a few of many examples so my opinion about the Ultimate choke artist is now justified.

Can we think of any less important regular game?

• non-division
• not even a conference game
• early-season road game

All games have value, but that describes perfectly the absolute very least important you can get, and bozos still harp on that game.
Comical

News just in, like every other QB that ever played, Romo had his bad moments.
Also led all QBs in game-winning drives from 2006-2014
And in his previous playoffs before 2016, he led the NFL in Playoff QB rating.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

The cowboys and romo had such a good season in 07 that they thought they were so good all they had to do was show up and play
and they would win.
Only problem was the giants came to town with a great defense, and they were not here to play but to win, and they kept winning all the way
to a SB victory. They wanted it more than dallas or the other teams they beat on the way.

The Giants did play well and deserved to win... they also beat three other teams clearly better than them to win the Super Bowl. So clearly they were on a roll.
But I still think you have to chalk it up as a Cowboys choke job. The Cowboys scored 76 points in the regular season against the Giants... dialing up 17, at home, on a bye... it's just not acceptable.