Looking Like McFadden Will Be The Starter

[casmith07]

You might want to read closely before responding because many here are following along with the same theme they've heard from players that Murray left meat on the bone. The most ridiculous comments have come from FANS. Do some "close" reading.

I don't particularly care what fans think. In 5 years, DeMarco Murray played mediocre to great, the least of which was "great." He had a great season, and he moved on to get paid what this organization was not willing to pay. That's the long and the short of it -- he's gone. I'm looking forward to Week 1 vs. the Giants.

 

[KJJ]

Everyone here has said Murray is a good player. Why do you keep arguing like people have claimed otherwise.

And exaggerating things like "no vision" and "no speed" don't make for a rational conversation.

I also havent heard one person say he didnt contribute to the playoff run. In fact, you and I were arguing about Garrett and were you NOT claiming that the run game wasnt the big reason, it was more the defensive improvements that helped us go from 8-8 to 12-4?

I dont recall anyone claiming he is an average back and we wont miss a beat without him. You are arguing with an imaginary person.

Your making BS up and getting all tied up in a wad for nothing.

The POINT of most of us as I have told you 100 times is that Murray is a good back, just not worth the contract he got. Nothing more, nothing less.

Dude, this board attracts many people and some here have claimed Murray is an average back. I'm not exaggerating anything what I've said has been posted. You're claiming "everyone" has said this and that "everyone has said that and not "everyone" has said what you're claiming. I'm not about to exchange another 50 posts with you today so if you don't have more to add than this then move on!

 

[KJJ]

Do you think Emmitt, Tomlinson, and other hall of famers were watching film and talking about Murrays short comings because they were talking themselves out of wanting him back? Doesnt even make sense.

I've seen LT give Murray a lot of praise he points out the good and the bad which is how you provide good analysis. It's the FANS who were talking themselves out of wanting Murray back claiming he's average and that just about any back could run behind the Cowboys OL. Never heard LT say those things. I've haven't heard much about Emmitt's comments towards Murray but some of the negativity could have to do with some bitterness that Emmitt feels due to Murray breaking a couple of his cherished team records. Maybe Emmitt's envious of the money Murray got. Emmitt didn't leave the Cowboys on the best of terms he called himself a diamond amongst trash. Don't get me wrong I loved Emmitt and what he did for the Cowboys he's one of my favorite Cowboy players ever but I'm sure it bothered him some to see Murray break a couple of his records.

 

[KJJ]

Yah, well I dont know who the fool was who claimed anything about McFadden, but the people you are arguing with here never said it. I havent been around when people were claiming that or I would have laughed in their face.

You don't know what the people I've been arguing with have said because you were apart of those arguments and probably never read any of the posts. I know what people say because I'm involved in debates practically everyday and have to get my facts straight. I don't make things up it's all been posted on the board from typical armchair FANS. There's several who loved the McFadden signing because they loved the guy coming out of college. They blame the Raiders and their OL for his lack of success and all the injuries he had. Do some reading!

 

[KJJ]

No dude, its just that the things we dont like about Murray were realities. You are assuming they did it to talk themselves out of it. AGAIN.........arguing with an imaginary person.

What's there not to like about a back who gained more rushing yards in a season than any back in Cowboys history and finished his career in Dallas with a 4.8 rushing average? I've been posting long enough to know that FANS have a tendency to talk themselves into believing things if it means saving some cap space for other players. They act like the money is coming out of their pockets. Most wanted Ware gone due to money and some even wanted Dez gone due to money. Many on this board wanted Romo gone after the 2012 season. Many had reached the end of their rope with him after his meltdown vs Washington that helped cost the Cowboys a playoff birth.

Many didn't want to pay him a 100M contract and wanted him released or traded to KC for the #1 pick. There was a huge thread started with many wanting to move on from Romo but I wasn't one of them. Some wanted to tank with Orton so the Cowboys could draft a QB with a top 5 pick. I've been on this board since 09 and never seen so many wanting to move on from Romo. Many were trying to convince themselves it would be for the betterment of the team and it's future. LOL

 

[Doomsday101]

I've seen LT give Murray a lot of praise he points out the good and the bad which is how you provide good analysis. It's the FANS who were talking themselves out of wanting Murray back claiming he's average and that just about any back could run behind the Cowboys OL. Never heard LT say those things. I've haven't heard much about Emmitt's comments towards Murray but some of the negativity could have to do with some bitterness that Emmitt feels due to Murray breaking a couple of his cherished team records. Maybe Emmitt's envious of the money Murray got. Emmitt didn't leave the Cowboys on the best of terms he called himself a diamond amongst trash. Don't get me wrong I loved Emmitt and what he did for the Cowboys he's one of my favorite Cowboy players ever but I'm sure it bothered him some to see Murray break a couple of his records.

SOUTHLAKE —
Emmitt Smith enjoyed watching DeMarco Murray break his single-season rushing record this past season with the Dallas Cowboys.
Smith felt Murray deserved it and, more important, was pleased to see the Cowboys go back to the style of play that made them successful in their 1990s heyday behind Smith, quarterback Troy Aikman and wide receiver Michael Irvin.
Smith told a crowd before meeting with the media that he would pay to keep Murray, as well as wide receiver Dez Bryant, if he were in Jerry Jones’ shoes going into free agency.
But, as he quickly reminded the crowd on hand Tuesday morning at a PenFed Credit Union charity event benefiting Home for Our Troops and Toys for Tots, he’s not Jerry Jones.
Smith had nothing but praise for Murray and his 1,845 rushing yards that broke Smith’s Cowboys’ single-season rushing record of 1,773 set in 1995.
“I thought DeMarco had a phenomenal season,” said Smith, the NFL’s all-time leading rusher with 18,355 yards.
“What I appreciated more about it and what I’ve seen in recent years was the commitment to the balance. That right there was so pleasing. It gave me the feeling of the days of old. I think everybody sensed that feeling, which is a wonderful thing.
“It says this is the way the Dallas Cowboys will be consistent, it’s the way that the Dallas Cowboys will win a lot of games and this is the winning formula for this organization. That, to me, is the hallmark of who the Dallas Cowboys organization should be.”
For all of Murray’s success with the Cowboys last season, there are still questions marks about giving him a lucrative long-term deal.
Nobody knows how much of Murray’s success was because of the stout offensive line, and nobody knows how Murray will rebound from the heavy workload of 2014.
Smith chuckled at the initial notion that the Cowboys could plug anyone in and have success running the ball behind an offensive line that that features three Pro Bowlers in left tackle Tyron Smith, center Travis Frederick and right guard Zack Martin.
“Who’s thought process is that? That’s the media’s thought process?” Smith said. “That’s the arm chair quarterback, that’s the couch coach and everybody else.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article10536176.html#storylink=cpy

 

[KJJ]

SOUTHLAKE —
Emmitt Smith enjoyed watching DeMarco Murray break his single-season rushing record this past season with the Dallas Cowboys.
Smith felt Murray deserved it and, more important, was pleased to see the Cowboys go back to the style of play that made them successful in their 1990s heyday behind Smith, quarterback Troy Aikman and wide receiver Michael Irvin.
Smith told a crowd before meeting with the media that he would pay to keep Murray, as well as wide receiver Dez Bryant, if he were in Jerry Jones’ shoes going into free agency.
But, as he quickly reminded the crowd on hand Tuesday morning at a PenFed Credit Union charity event benefiting Home for Our Troops and Toys for Tots, he’s not Jerry Jones.
Smith had nothing but praise for Murray and his 1,845 rushing yards that broke Smith’s Cowboys’ single-season rushing record of 1,773 set in 1995.
“I thought DeMarco had a phenomenal season,” said Smith, the NFL’s all-time leading rusher with 18,355 yards.
“What I appreciated more about it and what I’ve seen in recent years was the commitment to the balance. That right there was so pleasing. It gave me the feeling of the days of old. I think everybody sensed that feeling, which is a wonderful thing.
“It says this is the way the Dallas Cowboys will be consistent, it’s the way that the Dallas Cowboys will win a lot of games and this is the winning formula for this organization. That, to me, is the hallmark of who the Dallas Cowboys organization should be.”
For all of Murray’s success with the Cowboys last season, there are still questions marks about giving him a lucrative long-term deal.
Nobody knows how much of Murray’s success was because of the stout offensive line, and nobody knows how Murray will rebound from the heavy workload of 2014.
Smith chuckled at the initial notion that the Cowboys could plug anyone in and have success running the ball behind an offensive line that that features three Pro Bowlers in left tackle Tyron Smith, center Travis Frederick and right guard Zack Martin.
“Who’s thought process is that? That’s the media’s thought process?” Smith said. “That’s the arm chair quarterback, that’s the couch coach and everybody else.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article10536176.html#storylink=cpy

Naturally Emmitt's going to praise Murray for breaking his single season rushing record but deep down he certainly wasn't pulling for him to do it. No player wants their records broken but when they are they handle it with class and compliment the player who did it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Naturally Emmitt's going to praise Murray for breaking his single season rushing record but deep down he certainly wasn't pulling for him to do it. No player wants their records broken but when they are they handle it with class and compliment the player who did it.

Bottom line, Emmitt said he would have resigned Murray he also laughed at those who say it was all the OL

Nobody knows how much of Murray’s success was because of the stout offensive line, and nobody knows how Murray will rebound from the heavy workload of 2014.
Smith chuckled at the initial notion that the Cowboys could plug anyone in and have success running the ball behind an offensive line that that features three Pro Bowlers in left tackle Tyron Smith, center Travis Frederick and right guard Zack Martin.
“Who’s thought process is that? That’s the media’s thought process?” Smith said. “That’s the arm chair quarterback, that’s the couch coach and everybody else.

Emmitt as any RB know the OL is important Emmitt just as Murray did praised his OL handed out gifts to his OL but the RB plays a big part in having a successful running game or not. Other RB behind Smith never brought to the table what Emmitt did and his showed in wins and loses.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm not an expert on the salary cap by any means and won't really discuss it but from reading around, couldn't we have kept Murray and paid Hardy his game by game salary as well?

Maybe we would have had to cut Carr to do that. Which in hindsight, was a good thing we did not.

The salary cap is a zero sum game. And needs to be viewed in 5 year increments.

Sure we could have kept Murray. But who does that cost us?

 

[KJJ]

No, you dont all of a sudden become a GREAT RB. YOu either are or you are NOT a great RB.

Backs develop into "great" backs they don't just enter the league and are labeled "great." Greatness is earned not given. Just because a back is "great" in college doesn't mean they'll be "great" as a pro. Emmitt wasn't "great" right out of the blocks his rookie year but you could see the potential.

 

[KJJ]

Bottom line, Emmitt said he would have resigned Murray he also laughed at those who say it was all the OL

Nobody knows how much of Murray’s success was because of the stout offensive line, and nobody knows how Murray will rebound from the heavy workload of 2014.
Smith chuckled at the initial notion that the Cowboys could plug anyone in and have success running the ball behind an offensive line that that features three Pro Bowlers in left tackle Tyron Smith, center Travis Frederick and right guard Zack Martin.
“Who’s thought process is that? That’s the media’s thought process?” Smith said. “That’s the arm chair quarterback, that’s the couch coach and everybody else.

Emmitt as any RB know the OL is important Emmitt just as Murray did praised his OL handed out gifts to his OL but the RB plays a big part in having a successful running game or not. Other RB behind Smith never brought to the table what Emmitt did and his showed in wins and loses.

I'm sure Emmitt has a lot of respect for Murray and he would never give the OL all the credit because that would take away from what he did during his career. Some downplay Emmitt's accomplishments due to the his great OL. NFL Networks "It's a Football Life has documented a number of backs including LT and Terrell Davis but never Emmitt. Even his OL "The Great Wall of Dallas" was documented on It's a Football Life.

 

[Verdict]

I have said this all along ...... McFadden will be the starter if he is still anywhere near the player he was while he was in Oakland (physically speaking). His original talent level was so far superior to Randle its not even close. There was a reason why he was a top 10 pick and Randle was a 5th rounder. If McFadden doesn't have "it" anymore physically, then that might be a different story.

I really get the feeling that Randle is a train wreck waiting to happen, and I sincerely hope that I am wrong about that. If McFadden is the lead back, and IF we have a comfort level with him and we acquire another back via trade, waiver claim, or free agent, I could see a scenario where Randle rather than Dunbar is the odd man out.

 

[Verdict]

Anyone here have knowledge of the 9ers depth chart? Hyde and bush seem like locks and so does hayne. That's three backs and they'll probably carry a fb. That leaves hunter and Mike davis. I'd be interested in giving davis a look if he ends up being the odd man out.

They do seem to have a lot of depth at the position ........ then again, it has consistently been a point of emphasis for them in recent years.

 

[Verdict]

What many fail to realize is how fluid McFadden is coming out of the backfield as a receiver. That is the secret weapon for this year. I think we will use that to a much larger degree this year with McFadden and Dunbar.

 

[KJJ]

What many fail to realize is how fluid McFadden is coming out of the backfield as a receiver. That is the secret weapon for this year. I think we will use that to a much larger degree this year with McFadden and Dunbar.

He's only caught 53 passes out of the backfield for just over 300 yards the past 2 seasons. Murray had more catches and yards out of the backfield than that last season. The past 2 seasons Murray had 110 catches for 766 yards. Nothing about McFadden looks very "fluid."

 

[Verdict]

He's only caught 53 passes out of the backfield for just over 300 yards the past 2 seasons. Murray had more catches and yards out of the backfield than that last season. The past 2 seasons Murray had 110 catches for 766 yards. Nothing about McFadden looks very "fluid" he looks stiff.

Earlier in his career McFadden was a beast. Oakland has been a place where players have had the life sucked out of them for the past several years. It is possible that McFadden will be energized due to getting out of that hell hole of a football program ........ provided that his physical skills haven't diminished too badly. Ro McClain is a good example of a player who is performing better since he has exited the Raiders program. Jenkins might turn out to be another. McFadden would complete a trifecta. Weren't all three first round picks? All three lost momentum in Oakland.

 

[LOBO7]

“At some time it does become a little insulting,” Smith said, via the Dallas Morning News. When I think about DeMarco Murray, he has his own talent but when I was watching him run last year, and this is just me evaluating, I saw some opportunities there that was left on the football field where he could’ve had 2,500 yards, but he maximized what he had and he did the best with what he had. He had tremendous opportunities and the Cowboys."

Looks like Emmit says lots of things.
I loved Murray but now hes an Eagle, so now I hope he never gains another yard.

Moving on.

 

[5Stars]

Naturally Emmitt's going to praise Murray for breaking his single season rushing record but deep down he certainly wasn't pulling for him to do it. No player wants their records broken but when they are they handle it with class and compliment the player who did it.

Oh, so now KJJ knows what Emmitt was thinking? What a load of crap!

 

[KJJ]

Earlier in his career McFadden was a beast. Oakland has been a place where players have had the life sucked out of them for the past several years. It is possible that McFadden will be energized due to getting out of that hell hole of a football program ........ provided that his physical skills haven't diminished too badly. Ro McClain is a good example of a player who is performing better since he has exited the Raiders program. Jenkins might turn out to be another. McFadden would complete a trifecta. Weren't all three first round picks? All three lost momentum in Oakland.

He had one good rushing/receiving season and that was 5 years ago. Players do get the life sucked out of them in Oakland and Deangelo Hall is one of the only players I can think of who played in Oakland and became a viable player after he left. However he only spent one season there and McClain spent little time there as well. McFadden may have been ruined in Oakland we'll have to see. I'm not saying he's going to suck but he won't make anyone forget about Murray.

 

[dallasdave]

I don't particularly care what fans think. In 5 years, DeMarco Murray played mediocre to great, the least of which was "great." He had a great season, and he moved on to get paid what this organization was not willing to pay. That's the long and the short of it -- he's gone. I'm looking forward to Week 1 vs. the Giants.

He had one great year, and one healthy year.