Losing L. Allen, gaining K. Kosier - pros and cons

[DLCassidy]

We just read where Petitti has added 60-70 pounds on his bench press in one offseason. Kosier is still a young player and it's reasonable to think our coaches know how to add bulk where it's needed. All reports about Kosier this offseason have been positive. That tells me he's working hard. He certainly has the frame to get stronger. Will he be LA strong? Er...no. But adding strength is all about the right program and the right work ethic. It's really the easiest thing to improve upon so spouting combine bench press #'s from 5 years ago is meaningless.

 

[Alexander]

If this is what he was reffering to, then it really doesnt mean anything. Every player has their kryptonite. I thought he was reffering to the sack Sapp got, and I was correcting what I thought he meant, considering Allen did not give up that sack.

Allen got pushed back like he was on roller skates that whole game. And when he wasn't, he was standing there. He did quite a bit of standing around and dominated when he felt like it.

That's another plus we'll likely get from Kosier. More effort.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

HH, as far as your sig goes, you cannot tell where Dirk's hands or arms are on that pic.

It could very well be a foul.

straying off-topic again are we?

 

[Alexander]

We just read where Petitti has added 60-70 pounds on his bench press in one offseason. Kosier is still a young player and it's reasonable to think our coaches know how to add bulk where it's needed. All reports about Kosier this offseason have been positive. That tells me he's working hard. He certainly has the frame to get stronger. Will he be LA strong? Er...no. But adding strength is all about the right program and the right work ethic. It's really the easiest thing to improve upon so spouting combine bench press #'s from 5 years ago is meaningless.

Petitti is fat and weak. Always will be because that's what he showed at the Senior Bowl practices.

 

[Vintage]

straying off-topic again are we?

I've been staring at that pic for 10 minutes now trying to figure it out...then I realized, you can't say for certain whether or not it is a foul from that pic.

 

[The30YardSlant]

:laugh1:

Oh goodness. FOUR WHOLE BENCH PRESSES! When he was a rookie no less.

I guess players cannot physically mature or develop. Once they show how "weak" they are at the Combine, they are doomed.

Once you get above 20 or so, each bench press IS huge. For men that size, the first 15-20 are not that diffcult (see strength compitions in which nthey blow through 15 or so without even flinching). It's the next few that show how strong men that size are. Only benching 24 means you struggled to do that much.

And the point was that was the most he's EVER done. He was recorded at 21 lsat year in Detroit. That's what we call "digressing".

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He was recorded at 21 lsat year in Detroit. That's what we call "digressing".

compare Detroit's strength and conditioning program to our's

and again, his bench #s haven't seen to affect him on the field

 

[Vintage]

Once you get above 20 or so, each bench press IS huge. For men that size, the first 15-20 are not that diffcult (see strength compitions in which nthey blow through 15 or so without even flinching). It's the next few that show how strong men that size are. Only benching 24 means you struggled to do that much.

And the point was that was the most he's EVER done. He was recorded at 21 lsat year in Detroit. That's what we call "digressing".

For the record, I too, am worried about Kosier.

But that 21 he did last year....he could have been sick, sore from other things, hurt, etc when he did it.

You can't conclusively draw from that one way or another.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

For the record, I too, am worried about Kosier.

noone is saying you shouldn't be worried about Kosier, but to draw conclusions on an up-and-comer compared to a down-and-outter is ludicrous when he hasnt' played in our scheme, that he's a better fit for than LA was

 

[The30YardSlant]

that's funny, since we've been employing LA in that capacity and sucked running behind him these last couple of years

Yes, it's not like LA had no help, or anything

Al Johnson, Torrin Tucker, Andre Gurode. DOMINATION!!!

 

[The30YardSlant]

For the record, I too, am worried about Kosier.

But that 21 he did last year....he could have been sick, sore from other things, hurt, etc when he did it.

You can't conclusively draw from that one way or another.

It still is not an encouraging number, especially when Dallas fans around here are used to guards who are 330+ pounds who can do 35-40 reps.

 

[Stash]

Did I say that? No

What I said was, you are correct, he doesnt have great speed and agility, and quicker players did outmenuever him and beat him. However, in an offense built around ball control and establishing a running game, I would rather have a mountain of a man who can bulldoze through anything in front of him than a finesse guard who relys on speed.

And therein lies the biggest of your numerous mistakes. You simply don't grasp that the scheme has changed. The one-time man-on-man power running game is a thing of the past in Dallas. Just like Larry Allen.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yes, it's not like LA had no help, or anything

Al Johnson, Torrin Tucker, Andre Gurode. DOMINATION!!!

notice I said behind him? I mean by that...right behind him, he couldn't spring huge runs anymore like he used to, and because of his limited mobility, he couldn't continue his block and JJ would get caught from the backside pursuit

 

[The30YardSlant]

compare Detroit's strength and conditioning program to our's

and again, his bench #s haven't seen to affect him on the field

You're right, he isnt that good either way

 

[Alexander]

Yes, it's not like LA had no help, or anything

Al Johnson, Torrin Tucker, Andre Gurode. DOMINATION!!!

Since when does a Hall of Fame OL need "help"?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You're right, he isnt that good either way

he allowed only 4 sacks last year and had more blocks, what does that say about LA then?

 

[The30YardSlant]

And therein lies the biggest of your numerous mistakes. You simply don't grasp that the scheme has changed. The one-time man-on-man power running game is a thing of the past in Dallas. Just like Larry Allen.

And that scheme would still be more productive than the pansy, girl scout style of running we will be imploying this season.

 

[Vintage]

It still is not an encouraging number, especially when Dallas fans around here are used to guards who are 330+ pounds who can do 35-40 reps.

Which is the exception, not the norm....

Dallas fans are used to great RB's too....doesn't mean we get what we want either.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

And that scheme would still be more productive than the pansy, girl scout style of running we will be imploying this season.

and the winning lotto #s please?

 

[The30YardSlant]

he allowed only 4 sacks last year and had more blocks, what does that say about LA then?

You do realize he didnt even start half the year, right? On Detroit's pitiful O-Line, no less. He didnt exactly have prime opportunity to give up sacks.