Losman on the way out of Buffalo?

[Jarv]

I think Holcomb did an excellent job in Buffalo last year. if there is indeed an open competition there I think he has a good chance of winning it outright.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Please provide a link. What franchise records did he shatter there ? I would think that Jim Kelley holds most of the records there.

ROFL. I was about to ask the same thing, until I kept reading the posts and found out you already asked the question. The smoke is blowing once again.

 

[Jarv]

ROFL. I was about to ask the same thing, until I kept reading the posts and found out you already asked the question. The smoke is blowing once again.

Lol...Crickets...:laugh2:

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Couldn't happen to a more arrogant, piece of ****, *******...

Don't know about arrogant but I always wondered why he sounds like a black rapper when he talks.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Please provide a link. What franchise records did he shatter there ? I would think that Jim Kelley holds most of the records there.

FACT: Bledsoe set 10 Buffalo Bills franchise passing records in 2002, even surpassing the great Jim Kelly in some categories....I'm not going to dig through the Bills website again but you and your buddy sultanofsix are welcome to do it on their main website.

Also here is an old story I found that validates my FACTS:

http://newsblaster.cs.columbia.edu/archives/2005-02-17-09-03-44/web/NBproxy.cgi?sentence=1389

"Bledsoe set 10 franchise passing records and earned his fourth Pro Bowl selection in his first season with the Bills before his numbers began to decline."

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

ROFL. I was about to ask the same thing, until I kept reading the posts and found out you already asked the question. The smoke is blowing once again.

See the response to your buddy jarv:laugh1:

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

HAHAH, atleast we got something out of buffalo/Losman with the trade we made.

 

[kartr]

That's awesome! If I were Drew Bledsoe I'd call up the Bills front office and laugh in their face, but he may be a bit more forgiving.

Its' not all Losman's fault, he's only played for 2 years and the Buffalo organization is disfunctional with their constant changes. No one can succeed if you're constantly changing things. He has a better chance to succeed if he gets away from there, after all, how much success did Bledsoe have there, and he came there as a veteran qb.

 

[kartr]

The one thing that would make this story perfect is if the Bills get rid of Losman and then sign Quincy Carter to be a veteran backup! The circle of life!

Quincy wouldn't be a backup there for long cause they have no one there better. Carter in three weeks of starts made the Jets a more explosive offense. That's right. Santana Moss was in the 30th percentile in catches, yards and yards per catch before Quincy started there, and after Pennington's injury, Moss moved up into the top 5 in those same categories. If you pair QC with those receivers and RB, Buffalo would be back in the playoff hunt.

 

[kartr]

They're just lighting the fire under Losman to see his reaction. Trying to push his buttons, that's all. Craig Nall is to Losman what Chad Hutchinson was to Quincy Carter.

Exactly.

 

[kartr]

If by that you mean they all stink, sure....

Quincy's a playoff qb, the others aren't, get real.

 

[kartr]

Buffalo actually allowed for more sacks with Losman and Holcomb in 2005 than they did with Bledsoe in 2004.

Sure, Bledsoe does have a problem with getting sacked, but it's been clear to me for awhile that they never really had the O-Line that Bledsoe needed and he was hardly the cause for their offensive efficiencies.

It also helps that once you get a good O-Lineman in Jonas Jennings, you don't let the Niners snag him up in FA.


Rich.............

Every offensive line is worse with Bledsoe, just as the better qb's and better rb's make their offensive lines better.

 

[kartr]

This is absolutely absurd. They're giving up after one measly year?? Even Harrington got a longer audition.

Exactly. Losman did have some good games, so he still has potential.

 

[kartr]

Thats one reason I hate stats, like someone said, there are lies and then there are stats. Thats plain wrong, since with Holcomb in, they had much less sacks. But Losman had way more sacks, which when combined with Holcomb for 16 games total, you get more sacks than Bledsoe.

So thats completely wrong statement, that Bledsoe was better at not giving up sacks than both of them combined.

Kelly Holcomb was sacked 17 times in 10 games for 230 attempts ( sacked each 13.5 attempts)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3873

While Losman 26 times in 9 Games played in 2005 for 228 attempts (sacked each 8.7 attempts)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6781

While Bledsoe with Buffalo in 2004 was sacked 37 in 16 games for 450 attempts ( Sacked every 12.1 attempts), in 2003 49 times in 471 attempts (Sacked every 9.6 attempts)http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2359

Anyway you slice it, Holcomb did better than Bledsoe with pretty much same line. Now Losman, obviously sucks and damn stupid decision to get rid of Bledsoe for him.

You're right when you say that Holcomb did better than Bledsoe with the same line, but Losman is virtually a rookie. Bledsoe got rid of himself because he didn't want to be a mentor to Losman. Bledsoe forced their hand. But, if Holcomb did better than Bledsoe with the same and Holcomb is a journeyman, then you understand my disenchantment with him. That's why I think it's a waste of time to build around a guy who is 34 and on the down side of his career and was outplayed by a journeyman qb. I would trade Bledsoe for Losman right now. Bledsoe is clearly better now, but in a couple of years,Losman might be pretty good, while Bledsoe will only get worse in 2 years.

 

[Jarv]

FACT: Bledsoe set 10 Buffalo Bills franchise passing records in 2002, even surpassing the great Jim Kelly in some categories....I'm not going to dig through the Bills website again but you and your buddy sultanofsix are welcome to do it on their main website.

Also here is an old story I found that validates my FACTS:

http://newsblaster.cs.columbia.edu/archives/2005-02-17-09-03-44/web/NBproxy.cgi?sentence=1389

"Bledsoe set 10 franchise passing records and earned his fourth Pro Bowl selection in his first season with the Bills before his numbers began to decline."

Sorry pal...didn't see where it said "Bledsoe who shattered franchise records in 2002 for buffalo"...

Back your words.

 

[kartr]

I kind of feel sorry for losman, but then again I don't. If you fail to plan...you better plan to fail!!!

He should have known the expectation were going to be high replacing a legend like Bledsoe who shattered franchise records in 2002 for buffalo. He might not have made the playoffs during his tenure there, but he filled the stadium on sundays and brought excitement to a city and area of the country that is economically depressed and not a greatest place to live.

A legend like Bledsoe......:laugh1: :laugh2: That's too much!

 

[kartr]

Just another shotgun/spread option QB to fail in the NFL.

Vince Young...buyer beware - history is not kind.

(can of worms, closed...)

Except that Vince Young's team kicked the crap out of Losman's team in college and Vince won a National Championship.

 

[kartr]

FACT: Bledsoe set 10 Buffalo Bills franchise passing records in 2002, even surpassing the great Jim Kelly in some categories....I'm not going to dig through the Bills website again but you and your buddy sultanofsix are welcome to do it on their main website.

Also here is an old story I found that validates my FACTS:

http://newsblaster.cs.columbia.edu/archives/2005-02-17-09-03-44/web/NBproxy.cgi?sentence=1389

"Bledsoe set 10 franchise passing records and earned his fourth Pro Bowl selection in his first season with the Bills before his numbers began to decline."

How many playoff appearances did he make with Buffalo?

 

[dbair1967]

Quincy wouldn't be a backup there for long cause they have no one there better. Carter in three weeks of starts made the Jets a more explosive offense. That's right. Santana Moss was in the 30th percentile in catches, yards and yards per catch before Quincy started there, and after Pennington's injury, Moss moved up into the top 5 in those same categories. If you pair QC with those receivers and RB, Buffalo would be back in the playoff hunt.

'splain something Carter-troll...

with Chad Pennington at QB the jets scored 259 pts in 13 games, 1pt short of averaging 20 a game...they had games of 31, 34, 41, 29, 37 & 29 again with Pennington playing QB

with dope fiend at QB (that'd be your hero) the Jets "more explosive offense" managed a whopping 40 pts in 3 weeks, mounting incredibly high scores like 17, 10 and 13 pts, thats an average of a TD LESS a game...and two of those games were against league doormats Arizona and Cleveland

please stop with the stupidity ok?

David

 

[dbair1967]

Quincy's a playoff qb, the others aren't, get real.

and Q-Bongs unemployed...probably will never "sniff" the NFL again either

David