Recommended Loss Forensics: Romo vs. the League's Top QB

[KJJ]

This Romo hater/lover thing has gotten ridiculous. You can't point out any of his faults without being labeled a Romo hater. Even the so called Romo lovers who refuse to say anything negative about him know he's had issues in do or die games his stats tell everyone that. The so called Romo lovers put so much weight on his "regular season" numbers but conveniently distance themselves from his elimination/playoff game numbers. Even one mention of his elimination/playoff game numbers and you're labeled a Romo hater. lol

The bottom line is the stats Romo will ultimately be judged on are his stats and wins in the games that matter most. That's not hating on him that's how all QB's are judged when ranking the best QB's. Peyton Manning gets criticized for all his playoff losses and poor postseason performances but he's won a lot of playoff games and has been to 3 SB's winning one of them. With 5 league MVP awards, several NFL all-time records and a championship under his belt Manning has a number of skins on his wall and Romo has none.

 

[Doomsday101]

This Romo hater/lover thing has gotten ridiculous. You can't point out any of his faults without being labeled a Romo hater. Even the so called Romo lovers who refuse to say anything negative about him know he's had issues in do or die games his stats tell everyone that. The so called Romo lovers put so much weight on his "regular season" numbers but conveniently distance themselves from his elimination/playoff game numbers. Even one mention of his elimination/playoff game numbers and you're labeled a Romo hater. lol

The bottom line is the stats Romo will ultimately be judged on are his stats and wins in the games that matter most. That's not hating on him that's how all QB's are judged when ranking the best QB's. Peyton Manning gets criticized for all his playoff losses and poor postseason performances but he's won a lot of playoff games and has been to 3 SB's winning one of them. With 5 league MVP awards, several NFL all-time records and a championship under his belt Manning has a number of skins on his wall and Romo has none.

I agree, Romo shares in the blame. He has made critical mistake he has also been blamed for other peoples mistakes and failures. However I think the notion some have that all we need to do is get rid of Romo and this team will be winning must be sniffing glue.

 

[KJJ]

How many TD?

It was posted he has 19 TD's in one possession games since 2011. Seeing you love doing research how about posting which games they were and let's see how critical those games were compared to the one possession games since 2011 in which Romo had 8 int's.

 

[LatinMind]

Despite those numbers, David Moore of the Dallas Morning News did offer up a defense of Romo in December in this piece. Here is an excerpt:

“The direction of Romo’s arrow does not always determine success. Remember all the injuries the Cowboys’ defense endured in the final five games of last season? The arrow was definitely pointing down on that front.


“Romo actually has some pretty good numbers in December. Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers is the only other quarterback with a higher December rating the last four seasons. Romo was outstanding last December until a brutal performance against the Washington Commanders in the season finale.”


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/gri...into-Play-Monday-234619261.html#ixzz36RTLRn5F

This is where the stat guys in media try to sound smarter and thinking people dont have eyes. Romos number get bloated by running the hurry up no huddle in games late when they are down. Thats a big chunk of Romo's success throughout his career. It just seems like the more the team tries to run a gameplan the more he struggles. But when its wide open in a no huddle there are few QBs better. But alot of the avg QBs on teams that are playoff contenders have the same success in those situations. Maybe not to the success Romo has but to some degree all Qbs have succes in a no huddle. Because the defense cant adjust.

 

[KJJ]

Ithink the notion some have that all we need to do is get rid of Romo and this team will be winning must be sniffing glue.

Anyone who does think that is sniffing glue and are true Romo haters.

 

[Hoov]

We don't have to speculate about anything. 3rd down conversion % tells you what happened on 18% of Dallas' offensive plays, and completely ignores the other 82%. And I included first down % along with big plays in the OP specifically in anticipation of your comment. I get the feeling you didn't read the OP, or didn't understand that part of it.

The speculation is WHY does romo perform better on the first and second down than on 3rd down.

 

[DogFace]

OMG...lmao...you do that all the freaking time! You're actually the worse poster that does that. Your posts are long and full of stats or garbage to discredit Romo. smh

It's funny when people don't see irony or hypocrisy.

 

[Hoov]

I think people sometimes fall into the trap of thinking a conversion on 3rd is somehow worth more than a conversion on 1st or 2nd.

To me that is the down where your QB earns his paycheck. You know your passing, the other team knows your passing. This is the other teams opportunity to get there defense off the field. Its the down where there is more pressure, if you dont convert your punting.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anyone who does think that is sniffing glue and are true Romo haters.

Yes I think getting rid of Romo right now does not help the Cowboys any way shape or form, regardless if you like him or not. Has he made mistakes? Yes please name a QB who has not? I would also ask Outside of QB Which players in big games have stood out for the Cowboys? For all this to be Romo fault then it must mean other players are playing great but are getting held back by Romo so which player is it?

 

[percyhoward]

Dallas last 4 drives in the 2007 playoffs game. Dallas had 5 2nd half possessions

3 plays for -3 yrds punt
8 plays for 26 yrds punt
6 plays for 5 yrds punt
7 plays for 25 yrds int

Giants last 3 possessions

3 plays for 9 yrds punt
3 plays for 2 yrds punt
1 plays -1 yrds end of game

So its not like Dallas wasnt stopping them.

By that time the Giants were content to run the ball and punt. The damage had been done, with the defense allowing Eli over a 125 rating, which is an automatic loss in a playoff game.

 

[5Stars]

Yes I think getting rid of Romo right now does not help the Cowboys any way shape or form, regardless if you like him or not. Has he made mistakes? Yes please name a QB who has not? I would also ask Outside of QB Which players in big games have stood out Cowboys? For all this to be Romo fault then it must mean other players are playing great but are getting held back by Romo so which player is it?

I'll give you the answer that he and others always say. Romo touches the ball on every play. (as if Romo plays defense on every play).

 

[birdwells1]

Again, it's not a question of swapping players it's more a question of swapping contracts. Although Romo is the better player, I'd take Wilson's production and his contract over Tony's production and contract.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'll give you the answer that he and others always say. Romo touches the ball on every play. (as if Romo plays defense on every play).

I don't absolve Romo from any blame, he had made mistakes but where I draw the line is him taking the fall for others mistakes be it on offense, defense or coach. If your QB drives the field puts the FG kicker in position to win the game and the kicker misses it, then it now becomes Romo loss? If defense gives up late score with hardly any time left and Dallas loses it is then Romo loss? Romo too has made mistakes but he has put us in position to win more times than not.

 

[Doomsday101]

Again, it's not a question of swapping players it's more a question of swapping contracts. Although Romo is the better player, I'd take Wilson's production and his contract over Tony's production and contract.

Sure it is a rookie contract it will not be small much longer.

 

[KJJ]

Yes I think getting rid of Romo right now does not help the Cowboys any way shape or form, regardless if you like him or not. Has he made mistakes? Yes please name a QB who has not? I would also ask Outside of QB Which players in big games have stood out for the Cowboys? For all this to be Romo fault then it must mean other players are playing great but are getting held back by Romo so which player is it?

The problem on FAN boards like this is if you put any of the blame on Romo it gets twisted into you're putting all the blame on him. It won't make any sense for the Cowboys to get rid of Romo until they come up with a better QB than him. None of the players have stood out for the Cowboys in big games but Romo has never shown the ability to elevate the players around him and this goes back to leadership.

 

[birdwells1]

Sure it is a rookie contract it will not be small much longer.

It won't be Romoesque either, the key is to build your team in the trenches, with a strong running game and defense so you wont need an elite QB to be successful. SF and Seattle have both done this.

 

[percyhoward]

To me that is the down where your QB earns his paycheck. You know your passing, the other team knows your passing. This is the other teams opportunity to get there defense off the field. Its the down where there is more pressure, if you dont convert your punting.

That all sounds good, but it honestly doesn't matter what down you convert on--only that you convert. Dallas ranked 4th in conversions last year, and 2nd among the teams in the situations discussed in the OP since 2010.

 

[5Stars]

I don't absolve Romo from any blame, he had made mistakes but where I draw the line is him taking the fall for others mistakes be it on offense, defense or coach. If your QB drives the field puts the FG kicker in position to win the game and the kicker misses it, then it now becomes Romo loss? If defense gives up late score with hardly any time left and Dallas loses it is then Romo loss? Romo too has made mistakes but he has put us in position to win more times than not.

I know all of that...I have played organized sports, I have went to war, literally, with a platoon team, I know it is not a one man show when it comes to the Cowboys. But when posters get this tunnel vision or this stupid crap "elimination game" or "win or go home" stuff and blame it all on one man, then that is when I deem them Cowboy trolls because they fail to see the forest because of the trees. And, it is the same 5 or 6...everyday.

 

[Doomsday101]

The problem on FAN boards like this is if you put any of the blame on Romo it gets twisted into you're putting all the blame on him. It won't make any sense for the Cowboys to get rid of Romo until they come up with a better QB than him. None of the players have stood out for the Cowboys in big games but one other problem I've seen with Romo throughout his career is he doesn't have the ability to elevate the players around him and this goes back to leadership.

Some do put full blame on him, heck now it is his fault for not making other player play good so he now lacks leadership? lol OK

I have no issue with saying Romo has made costly mistakes but when he take blame for others then I call BS because that is what it is pure BS.

 

[5Stars]

Some do put full blame on him, heck now it is his fault for not making other player play good so he now lacks leadership? lol OK

I have no issue with saying Romo has made costly mistakes but when he take blame for others then I call BS because that is what it is pure BS.

What did I tell you! lol

Romo cannot make the defense force a punt! lmao Trolls