Recommended Loss Forensics: Romo vs. the League's Top QB

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In elimination/playoff games Romo hasn't elevated his own game, compared his regular season stats. If he just accomplished that Id be ok.

How many playoff games has Romo and the team been to? smh
 

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It was posted he has 19 TD's in one possession games since 2011. Seeing you love doing research how about posting which games they were and let's see how critical those games were compared to the one possession games since 2011 in which Romo had 8 int's.

TDs ranked by importance:
vs NFC East: 9
vs other NFC Teams: 6
vs AFC teams 4
Total: 19

INTs ranked by importance:
vs NFC East: 2
vs Other NFC teams 4
vs AFC teams: 2
Total: 8

1 of these touchdowns was in an "elimination game" as was 1 of the interceptions.
 

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It's always a good policy to look at every play of every game. You get the most complete picture that way. And TD to turnover ratio was your idea, for which you were given credit in the OP which covered every game by these QB over the last four seasons--including playoff and elimination games.

The most complete picture can be seen from analyzing Romo's performances in do or die games compared to his performances in the less critical games. There's a troubling contrast between the Romo we see when it's all on the line and the very productive, efficient Romo we see throughout most of the regular season. He's 1-5 in season finale games and 1-3 in playoff games. Compare his passer ratings in those games to his passer ratings the first 16 games of the regular season. I focus on a QB's TD to turnover ratio during the do or die games because it's the most telling stat in those games. Romo's TD to turnover ratio is 8-12 in elimination games. The only do or die game he didn't turn the ball over in the Cowboys won going away.

When you cover "every game" including playoff games by some of the great QB's in history Romo's numbers could compare because his playoff resume (4 games) is so small compared to QB's like Montana who played in around 23 playoff games. With all the passing and rule changes over the years it's helped perfect QB's numbers so it means little comparing the stats from QB's years ago with the stats QB's produce today. QB's completion percentages are better today as are their passer ratings. It's a different game today but what matters today mattered just as much 30 years ago and that's playoff wins and championships.
 

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At least Wilson can be trusted to throw the ball. He doesn't throw much, but he manages to put the ball in the end zone and get first downs and keeps the ball moving. At least that's what I saw in the Super Bowl. Romo doesn't have the girth, the guts, the heart, the stomach to even get close to that type of game. Sure, he wipes the floor with the trash of the league, and maybe he can win against a great team in October, but when it gets down to the big grown man show, he's a boy amongst men.

You must have been watching a different Superbowl than I was. The one I watched saw Wilson throw his FIRST TD pass with 2:58 to go in the 3rd, and the offense had amassed a whopping 7 (I'm giving them the point after) of Seattle's 29 points they had scored already by that point. And until that BIG 58 yard TD drive that started with 5:55 to go in the 3rd of which 54 was through the air, Wilson had accumulated a massive 95 yards passing. He put up over half his passing yards for the game in the last 20:50. In other words, Seattle let Wilson start throwing AFTER they had a 29 point lead deep into the 3rd quarter and had pretty much secured the win. Yeah, they trust him alright.... once they've essentially won the game and knew he couldn't screw it up.
 

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TDs ranked by importance:
vs NFC East: 9
vs other NFC Teams: 6
vs AFC teams 4
Total: 19

INTs ranked by importance:
vs NFC East: 2
vs Other NFC teams 4
vs AFC teams: 2
Total: 8

1 of these touchdowns was in an "elimination game" as was 1 of the interceptions.

What has it all led to? I'll tell you what it's led to 3 playoff teams in his 8 years as the starter and a 1-3 playoff record.
 

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The offensive line was not good enough at pass protection in the 2007 or in 2009 playoffs, they could not protect Tony in either game.

think u mean 2009 and that wasnt until the end of the yr with injuries. 2007 OL was legit
 

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It takes a team, it takes a team, it takes a....oh, never mind.

You keep telling yourself that. I look at Luck.. a 2nd year QB who inherited a 2-14 team. Been to the playoffs twice in a row. Won a playoff game despite the Colts defense giving up 44 points. If we had a beast QB like Luck, we would be in the playoffs yearly. No doubt in my mind.
 

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Check the below link. They've been the 5th worst in football over the past 4 years. Only Oakland, Buffalo, Jacksonville, and Minnesota have been worse. In those 4 seasons Oakland has averaged 6 wins per season, Buffalo has averaged 5.5 wins, Jacksonville 4.75 wins and Minnesota 6 wins.
We also play in the worst division in football. No excuse not to win this division. Every year it's the same thing. There is no clear cut winner in this division. We haven't been able to take advantage of this weak division the past 4 seasons, and Romo is a big reason why (1-6 in win and get in games).
 

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In elimination/playoff games Romo hasn't elevated his own game, compared his regular season stats. If he just accomplished that Id be ok.

I assume you appreciate that the pass offense is the only reason this team is even involved in elimimation games in the first place.
 

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You keep telling yourself that. I look at Luck.. a 2nd year QB who inherited a 2-14 team. Been to the playoffs twice in a row. Won a playoff game despite the Colts defense giving up 44 points. If we had a beast QB like Luck, we would be in the playoffs yearly. No doubt in my mind.

Not that the NFCE is a murdere's row, but if we played in the NFC South, we'd be in the playoffs every year, too. And the Colts didn't go 2-14 because they didn't have an elite QB. They went 2-14 because they didn't have a QB, period.
 

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What has it all led to? I'll tell you what it's led to 3 playoff teams in his 8 years as the starter and a 1-3 playoff record.

HIS 8 years as the starter, or the team he has been on for 8 years. He was not the only teammate during those 3 playoff games. Get it right!
 

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think u mean 2009 and that wasnt until the end of the yr with injuries. 2007 OL was legit

In the playoff game against the Giants...36 drop backs, 10 knock downs and two sacks.

At the end of the 3rd quarter going into the 4th quarter

Crayton drops a first down conversion (or TD) result = punt

2nd drive Leonard Davis personal foul = punt

10:20 Jail break blitz sack (4 guys untouched)
9:40 3rd and13- hit as he throws no chance=punt

6:30 Heavy Pressure hit as he throws
6:06 Jail Break Blitz... sacked again

4:15 Hit as he throws
4:05 Hit as he throws
Punt

:30 1st and 10 False Start
:20 2nd down Hit as he throws
:15 3rd down Crayton stops running (missed TD)

:08 4th and goal from 30 Romo throws desperation pass into end zone for the pick

Not to mention Gurode could not get the snaps to the guy all day.

Jerry was standing right next to Wade...

Tough to Blame that loss on Romo. Our O-line was handled by a great Giants D-Line in the 4th quarter and we made to many mistakes.

No need to talk about Minny..it was even worse. Watch the Giants game ( the 4th quarter) on youtube, then come back and blame that on Romo.
 

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You keep telling yourself that. I look at Luck.. a 2nd year QB who inherited a 2-14 team. Been to the playoffs twice in a row. Won a playoff game despite the Colts defense giving up 44 points. If we had a beast QB like Luck, we would be in the playoffs yearly. No doubt in my mind.

Use your brain for once! The Colts had a good built team when Luck arrived and they needed a good QB. That is why he succeeded. Well, they had a better built team than the Cowboys have had since Romo came into the picture.

How many coaches, schemes, assistant coaches, and the likes, has Romo gone through? Romo has not been in one constant system since he's been here, and the Cowboys are still 8-8. And, the beat up bastid has never blamed the teams losses on his teammates, it's always, "I have to play better".

Plus, he's human and makes mistakes just like we and all QB's do.
 

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In the playoff game against the Giants...36 drop backs, 10 knock downs and two sacks.

At the end of the 3rd quarter going into the 4th quarter

Crayton drops a first down conversion (or TD) result = punt

2nd drive Leonard Davis personal foul = punt

10:20 Jail break blitz sack (4 guys untouched)
9:40 3rd and13- hit as he throws no chance=punt

6:30 Heavy Pressure hit as he throws
6:06 Jail Break Blitz... sacked again

4:15 Hit as he throws
4:05 Hit as he throws
Punt

:30 1st and 10 False Start
:20 2nd down Hit as he throws
:15 3rd down Crayton stops running (missed TD)

:08 4th and goal from 30 Romo throws desperation pass into end zone for the pick

Not to mention Gurode could not get the snaps to the guy all day.

Jerry was standing right next to Wade...

Tough to Blame that loss on Romo. Our O-line was handled by a great Giants D-Line in the 4th quarter and we made to many mistakes.

No need to talk about Minny..it was even worse. Watch the Giants game ( the 4th quarter) on youtube, then come back and blame that on Romo.

That was the same DL that made Garcia, Favre, and Brady all look average.
 

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And the Colts didn't go 2-14 because they didn't have an elite QB. They went 2-14 because they didn't have a QB, period.

So you are saying Luck was the difference? I aGree.


Use your brain for once! The Colts had a good built team when Luck arrived and they needed a good QB..

This is absolute bs and you know it. Luck had NO O-LINE last season, NO RUNNING GAME last season, a MEDIOCRE defense(which gave up 44 points against the Chiefs.. guess what? Colts still won thanks to Luck carrying the team), and 1/3 of his starters on the IR. The lengths you fan boys go to defend Romo, who in 8 years has 1 playoff win.
 

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Colts have a good team.. LMAO. Mr 3.9 YPC Trent Richardson, his best receiver being a 46 year old injured WR, and the worst o-line in the league, plus a mediocre defense... yeah.. Colts have a good team.. LOL...

Luck is the difference. You won't see the Cowboys beating the undefeated Seahawks, undefeated Broncos, or the 49ers with Romo playing QB. Luck is incredible.
 

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So you are saying Luck was the difference? I aGree.




This is absolute bs and you know it. Luck had NO O-LINE last season, NO RUNNING GAME last season, a MEDIOCRE defense(which gave up 44 points against the Chiefs.. guess what? Colts still won thanks to Luck carrying the team), and 1/3 of his starters on the IR. The lengths you fan boys go to defend Romo, who in 8 years has 1 playoff win.

Right. Luck had other teammates and coaching to do what he did. Oh, and some luck! That's what a team is made of.

What is this "fan boys" crap? Troll response!
 
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