Recommended Loss Forensics: Romo vs. the League's Top QB

Doomsday101

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It won't be Romoesque either, the key is to build your team in the trenches, with a strong running game and defense so you wont need an elite QB to be successful. SF and Seattle have both done this.

Colin Kaepernick contract makes him the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL only behind Arron Rodgers. Like it or not if they want to keep Wilson they will have to pay him period.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/average/

As for Romo his avg salary still puts him behind Cutler so this non sense of Dallas overpaying for a top QB BS
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Colin Kaepernick contract makes him the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL only behind Arron Rodgers. Like it or not if they want to keep Wilson they will have to pay him period.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/average/

As for Romo his avg salary still puts him behind Cutler so this non sense of Dallas overpaying for a top QB BS

Actually Colins contract Is team friendly and they already have a lot of their good players under contract. Kap specifically want the team to be able to stay competitive by signing other
FA.
 

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Actually Colins contract Is team friendly and they already have a lot of their good players under contract. Kap specifically want the team to be able to stay competitive by signing other
FA.

Oh, so now you know the contract status and salary cap that the the 49'ers have, huh? lmao
 

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Oh, so now you know the contract status and salary cap that the the 49'ers have, huh? lmao

It's not the debilitating contract that we have with Romo. In essence Colin signed a series of 1 year deals.
 

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Some do put full blame on him, heck now it is his fault for not making other player play good so he now lacks leadership? lol OK

I have no issue with saying Romo has made costly mistakes but when he take blame for others then I call BS because that is what it is pure BS.

Some QB's have the ability to raise the level of play of their teammates and I've never seen that ability with Romo. Even Tim Tebow was able to raise the level of play of his Bronco teammates a few years ago because he was getting it done in the clutch. It comes down to players believing in a QB's ability to make plays in critical situations. Some of the best football I ever saw the Cowboys play under Staubach was when the team was behind and the players stepped up knowing if they give Staubach a chance he'll pull the game out.

I don't believe Romo's teammates believe in him in crunch situations for obvious reasons. TO is one of the most candid people and last year on NFLN he thought the Cowboys stood a better chance of beating Philly with Orton at QB. I didn't agree with him but he mentioned Romo's propensity for late game turnovers. Orton ended up doing the same thing.
 

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It was posted he has 19 TD's in one possession games since 2011. Seeing you love doing research how about posting which games they were and let's see how critical those games were compared to the one possession games since 2011 in which Romo had 8 int's.
Interesting that you would focus on the 8 int and completely leave out 19 TD, don't you think?
 

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Some QB's have the ability to raise the level of play of their teammates and I've never seen that ability with Romo. Even Tim Tebow was able to raise the level of play of his Bronco teammates a few years ago because he was getting it done in the clutch. It comes down to players believing in a QB's ability to make plays in critical situations. Some of the best football I ever saw the Cowboys play under Staubach was when the team was behind and the players stepped up knowing if they give Staubach a chance he'll pull the game out.

I don't believe Romo's teammates believe in him in crunch situations for obvious reasons. TO is one of the most candid people and last year on NFLN he thought the Cowboys stood a better chance of beating Philly with Orton at QB. I didn't agree with him but he mentioned Romo's propensity for late game turnovers. Orton ended up doing the same thing.

Where is Tim Tebow, the great leader of men? lmao

And, where is this great T.O. you speak of?
 

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Reading that amazing OP, it seems to me that Romo actually HAS been a huge problem for this team.

He's been an over performing QB on an under performing team for a long time, and has masked the true problems with the team. As a result we've had middling results and middling draft picks (or mediocre, to use the board preferred term) rather than great seasons and success or terrible seasons and high draft picks.

It seems to me the Front Office finally figured it out a couple of years ago when they fired Rob Ryan and undertook a complete defensive rebuild (of which we're yet to even begin season 2). Not to mention an OL overhaul.

It's a shame, because by the time these moves play out it's more than likely that Romo will be over the hill or injured into oblivion.
 

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Interesting that you would focus on the 8 int and completely leave out 19 TD, don't you think?

His 8 int's in one possession games was the focus of NFLN they never mentioned his 19 TD's. You just like to focus on the good (regular season) leaving out all the bad (elimination/playoff games) that's created the stigma Romo has. Why don't you compare Romo's SB/playoff wins to the leagues top QB's? All you ever do is focus on his regular season numbers.
 

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His 8 int's in one possession games was the focus of NFLN they never mentioned his 19 TD's. You just like to focus on the good (regular season) leaving out all the bad (elimination/playoff games) that's created the stigma Romo has. Why don't you compare Romo's SB/playoff wins to the top QB's?

lmao What a joke. Well, your crew just focuses on the bad. You and your ilk never take into account the concept of "team".

NFLN...? lol
 

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His 8 int's in one possession games was the focus of NFLN they never mentioned his 19 TD's. You just like to focus on the good (regular season) leaving out all the bad (elimination/playoff games) that's created the stigma Romo has. Why don't you compare Romo's SB/playoff wins to the leagues top QB's? All you ever do is focus on his regular season numbers.

If you want to talk about playoff wins, then the argument can be made for Mark Sanchez and Rex Grossman being better quarterbacks than Romo and Matt Ryan. "Matty Ice' is 1-4 in the playoffs, by the way, but still has the "cool" nickname. It takes a team, it takes a team, it takes a....oh, never mind.
 

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The speculation is WHY does romo perform better on the first and second down than on 3rd down.
Anyway, to answer your question, that's how a QB can have a high rating on an offense that keeps possession and scores a lot of points without a good 3rd down conversion rate. As for why we were so bad on 3rd down last season, I 'd blame the OC, interior OL, receivers not named Bryant, Witten, or Beasley for the problem, and to a lesser extent, the OC and QB for not dealing successfully with it.
 

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You missed the point. Im not arguing the fact that he didnt win the superbowl. Im saying Dallas has had teams that couldve won the superbowl. Because people seem to think that Dallas has had defense like 2012-2013 for Romos entire career.

The offensive line was not good enough at pass protection in the 2007 or in 2009 playoffs, they could not protect Tony in either game.
 

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The problem on FAN boards like this is if you put any of the blame on Romo it gets twisted into you're putting all the blame on him. It won't make any sense for the Cowboys to get rid of Romo until they come up with a better QB than him. None of the players have stood out for the Cowboys in big games but Romo has never shown the ability to elevate the players around him and this goes back to leadership.

this 'elevate' bs is probably the dumbest argument Romo haters like you bring up
 

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If you want to talk about playoff wins, then the argument can be made for Mark Sanchez and Rex Grossman being better quarterbacks than Romo and Matt Ryan. "Matty Ice' is 1-4 in the playoffs, by the way, but still has the "cool" nickname. It takes a team, it takes a team, it takes a....oh, never mind.

No argument can be made for Mark Sanchez or Rex Grossman being better QB's than Romo because neither are with their original teams and they no longer have starting jobs. As productive as Romo is during the regular season you would expect the same from him or at least close to it during the postseason but he ends turning into Rex Grossman and Mark Sanchez in those games.
 

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His 8 int's in one possession games was the focus of NFLN they never mentioned his 19 TD's. You just like to focus on the good (regular season) leaving out all the bad (elimination/playoff games) that's created the stigma Romo has. Why don't you compare Romo's SB/playoff wins to the leagues top QB's? All you ever do is focus on his regular season numbers.
It's always a good policy to look at every play of every game. You get the most complete picture that way. And TD to turnover ratio was your idea, for which you were given credit in the OP which covered every game by these QB over the last four seasons--including playoff and elimination games.
 

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this 'elevate' bs is probably the dumbest argument Romo haters like you bring up

In elimination/playoff games Romo hasn't elevated his own game, compared his regular season stats. If he just accomplished that Id be ok.
 
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