Lynch's workout

[Doomsday101]

Agreed. That's why all this talk about how great of an athlete a QB is really doesn't matter much to me. As long as he has shown he can make all of the throws (which the top 3 certainly have) then I am not worried about that. The ability to process information quickly is what is most important. You can't lock on to receivers in the NFL, it will get you killed.

I agree, I will say athletic ability will matter quite a bit early on, when things break down guys like Lynch can tuck the ball and run. Granted not a habit I want my QB doing on a regular basis but being able to avoid the critical mistakes of turning the ball over will get a QB a quick trip to the dog house. Myself I would love to have any of these 3 QB's just based on what I have seen with each one

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

What is funny is that after every missed pass, Mayock comments about what a great throw it was. Very interesting.

Just airmailed an out

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You can't watch this and say from an accuracy and placement standpoint he is anywhere near Goff or Wentz

Whatever.

Watch the deep and intermediate throws, again.

That and neither Wentz or Goff did it in 25 mph with 40 mph wind gusts.

Mike Mayock couldn't even operate from the sidelines because of the wind.






YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

What is funny is that after every missed pass, Mayock comments about what a great throw it was. Very interesting.

Just airmailed an out

Not his fault if the receivers can't catch. Happened all year for Lynch. His offensive teams stink.






YR

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I am joking a bit about some of this....I don't have a dog in the fight....but I agree with what all the draft guys are saying that Goff and Wentz are 1-2 and Lynch is the third.

It is hard to compare the workouts when they are in different conditions. Goff had a pretty much benign day, Wentz was indoors and now Lynch has a big wind at his back that could affect his throws.

Honestly....if a QB gets taken at #4, no matter who it is, it probably isn't till year 2 or 3 that they even get a chance, so how they are right now doesn't mean that much....it's how they are going to be in 2 years. Lynch has shown with his footwork improvement that he can learn and learn pretty quickly.

Just threw one behind his receiver on a slant or crossing pattern.

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

He's made far better great throws than Goff or Wentz. His throws outside the numbers has been tremendous. He's trimmed the fat off his footwork. He's struggled a bit with locating passes on the left, but the wind is blowing hard from that way. He also made some incredible throws on the run which is where he struggled a bit this season which is a product of improved footwork. He's anticipating pretty well, but has had some throws where his timing is a little off.

His improvement in his footwork in 3 months is extremely promising. Would like to see him throw more into the wind.

My guess...I think he's too good to pass up at #4 because he's probably gone by 7.




YR

This is probably the only post in history that I've agreed with you on, so kudos to you. I don't understand how Lynch has slipped through the cracks or what Goff and Wentz have done to project themselves so much higher, but I don't see it. Personally I like all 3 QB's and would have taken any of the 3 over Mariota and Winston. Lynch to me has the most upside and the biggest tool box, but is also going to need the most time. I'd be thrilled at a trade back with the 49ers at #7, gaining an additional 2nd, and drafting Lynch at #7.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Whatever.

Watch the deep and intermediate throws, again.

That and neither Wentz or Goff did it in 25 mph with 40 mph wind gusts.

Mike Mayock couldn't even operate from the sidelines because of the wind.






YR

He throws a great deep ball, the best of the three.

Intermediate throws he has been average as far as I am concerned. He has airmailed a couple, short armed a couple, threw several behind. THe wind for the most part is helping him...it's at his back. On a ball thrown on a line it isn't going to affect them that much. On a deep ball with air under it the effect will be more issues.

There isn't any of the media guys putting him close to Wentz or Goff. Nor the draft gurus. THey are all saying mid first to early second.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Not his fault if the receivers can't catch. Happened all year for Lynch. His offensive teams stink.






YR

THere hasn't been an easy drop and I have watched this twice now.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

This is probably the only post in history that I've agreed with you on, so kudos to you. I don't understand how Lynch has slipped through the cracks or what Goff and Wentz have done to project themselves so much higher, but I don't see it. Personally I like all 3 QB's and would have taken any of the 3 over Mariota and Winston. Lynch to me has the most upside and the biggest tool box, but is also going to need the most time. I'd be thrilled at a trade back with the 49ers at #7, gaining an additional 2nd, and drafting Lynch at #7.

Works for me

 

[texbumthelife]

Here's the rest of what Zierlein wrote:

Lynch has a little bit of a windup, but it's not enough to allow defenders to close the throwing windows on him. From the pocket, he did a nice job of setting his feet and throwing with a balanced base. Lynch does a good job of keeping the ball tight to his body and near his chest when he's in the pocket. He made a good effort to square up to throw when he was on the move, but there is still room for improvement in that area.




YR

We are talking purely about his mechanics. He has a long wind-up. It's plainly obvious when watching him.

Whether or not he still has the arm to fit the ball in tight windows is another argument completely, and one that could change at the next level.

 

[btcutter]

Not his fault if the receivers can't catch. Happened all year for Lynch. His offensive teams stink.






YR

Goff doesn't exactly have an OL to protect him either in Pac 12. His Cal team has been pretty bad as well.

All three QBs have the tools. Obviously some little more than others but ultimately it's what's between the ears that will determine success.

 

[texbumthelife]

I agree, I will say athletic ability will matter quite a bit early on, when things break down guys like Lynch can tuck the ball and run. Granted not a habit I want my QB doing on a regular basis but being able to avoid the critical mistakes of turning the ball over will get a QB a quick trip to the dog house. Myself I would love to have any of these 3 QB's just based on what I have seen with each one

I have said all along I wouldn't mind any of the three, I just didn't think any of them were worth the #4 pick considering how much work they all need.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

The two throws to the flag...Mayock and whoever else is commentating both said how he threw those wrong....late and not to the back pylon.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

They keep comparing Lynch to Flacco.

 

[texbumthelife]

The two throws to the flag...Mayock and whoever else is commentating both said how he threw those wrong....late and not to the back pylon.

I'll give him the benefit on those, that is already a very tough throw, made exceedingly difficult by any sort of windy situation. I can't believe they didn't get this kid inside a dome for his workout.

 

[Kaiser]

Not his fault if the receivers can't catch. Happened all year for Lynch. His offensive teams stink.
YR

What do you think of Hackenberg? My early take on draft positioning is Dallas will leave the draft with either Lynch in the first round or if not, Hackenberg or Prescott in the 3rd/4th.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't know where they come up with Goff and Wentz being #1 and #2.

I think Goff from a physical standpoint, is well behind Lynch and I would be worried about his hand size. He also played in the Pac-10 which is weak for defense and he had some quality receivers around him.

Wentz is about what you would want from a QB from a physical standpoint. But his mechanics are real inconsistent and he didn't throw the ball that accurately in college. He did play in tough weather conditions, but he also played against low competition. The transition in going from FCS to the NFL is a large one from a speed perspective. Romo was able to do it, but I question him in comparison to Lynch (and Goff).

Lynch played on a miserable offensive team. They dropped a ton of passes and the O-Line couldn't block. They had a couple of capable tailbacks and that was it. Meanwhile, he played against tough defenses like Navy, Temple (really great defense), Ole Miss, Houston, etc. The only thing I would think that takes away from Lynch is that he played in the spread offense. But, so did Aaron Rodgers (it just wasn't a hurry up, spread option).

The comparison to Flacco I find unfounded (and I like Flacco). I think he compares more to Aaron Rodgers (upside wise). Quick release, incredible arm and he moves and runs like Rodgers does. In fact, I think you can use spread option with Lynch due to his running ability and size.

If I needed a pocket passer that was ready to go today, I would go with Goff. But it's not like I would expect Goff to tear up the NFL right away or even in 2017. But if I'm looking at a long term development and probability of working out, I would go with Lynch-Wentz-Goff.





YR

 

[Doomsday101]

I have said all along I wouldn't mind any of the three, I just didn't think any of them were worth the #4 pick considering how much work they all need.

Myself would gladly take them at #4. I think if Dallas screws around we will be looking at the leftovers and in my mind the QB position is too important to screw around with. In the past I was satisfied with vet QB backing up Romo but I think the time is now to look for a young quality QB who can sit much like Aaron Rodgers did. Dallas can't continue to put this off, Romo is 36 and time is going to catch up to him. I think all 3 are 1st rd talent

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I'll give him the benefit on those, that is already a very tough throw, made exceedingly difficult by any sort of windy situation. I can't believe they didn't get this kid inside a dome for his workout.

The first one, to the right, should have been an overthrow if anything because that is the way the wind was blowing. The second one was more likely to be affected by the wind.

I agree that the wind kind of makes it very hard to compare. Maybe the reason they are outside though is the teams in the range where he is projected are outdoor bad weather teams.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I don't know where they come up with Goff and Wentz being #1 and #2.

I think Goff from a physical standpoint, is well behind Lynch and I would be worried about his hand size. He also played in the Pac-10 which is weak for defense and he had some quality receivers around him.

Wentz is about what you would want from a QB from a physical standpoint. But his mechanics are real inconsistent and he didn't throw the ball that accurately in college. He did play in tough weather conditions, but he also played against low competition. The transition in going from FCS to the NFL is a large one from a speed perspective. Romo was able to do it, but I question him in comparison to Lynch (and Goff).

Lynch played on a miserable offensive team. They dropped a ton of passes and the O-Line couldn't block. They had a couple of capable tailbacks and that was it. Meanwhile, he played against tough defenses like Navy, Temple (really great defense), Ole Miss, Houston, etc. The only thing I would think that takes away from Lynch is that he played in the spread offense. But, so did Aaron Rodgers (it just wasn't a hurry up, spread option).

The comparison to Flacco I find unfounded (and I like Flacco). I think he compares more to Aaron Rodgers (upside wise). Quick release, incredible arm and he moves and runs like Rodgers does. In fact, I think you can use spread option with Lynch due to his running ability and size.

If I needed a pocket passer that was ready to go today, I would go with Goff. But it's not like I would expect Goff to tear up the NFL right away or even in 2017. But if I'm looking at a long term development and probability of working out, I would go with Lynch-Wentz-Goff.





YR

You don't know where it comes from but it is pretty much across the board from the draft guys.