News: Marcus Spears Says Jerry is Eyeing Payton

[atlantacowboy]

I mean, at the time, my choice was kind of limited to the Cowboys, Eagles (family), or Giants/Jets (Vacation in NJ). So, I think I made the right choice of those options.

What was your cowboy connection?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

He would be crazy to come here , unless offered a ton of cash, and was doing it just for the money.

Mike did that so why not Payton? He's got his SB win, he's a lock for the HOF, as he brought a title to one of the worst NFL teams ever before that.

No downside, if he wins another SB he'd be (unless someone else does it sooner) the first NFL coach to win a SB with 2 different teams, if he never does or does poorly it'd be "well, he had to coach under Jerry Jones" or "nobody else won any but Tom and Jimmy, either".

However, I don't know Payton of course, he may have more pride than that, just saying on the surface I'd be not all surprised if he took the job....

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

What was your cowboy connection?

Lived in Houston, and I was never going to cheer for the Texans when they came into the league. Also, my paternal grandmother cheered for them despite living in PA.

 

[Sarge]

By Sean Payton did he mean Dan Quinn?

 

[john van brocklin]

"Mike McCarthy is currently the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, but ESPN's Marcus Spears believes that could change by next year. That's because he thinks Jerry Jones is eyeing Sean Payton.

"Have we not paid attention to Jerry Jones for a long time? When Wade Phillips was there, Jerry Jones wanted and was grooming Jason Garrett to be the head coach," Spears said on NFL Live. "He is waiting for Sean Payton to say I want to come to Dallas, and they're going to make it happen and give the New Orleans Saints what they need.""

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We can't afford the draft pick compensation

 

[noshame]

Quinn is your next coach.

 

[Reid1boys]

Unless Payton can bring a 37 year old Drew Brees with him, who cares.

 

[quickccc]

I think Quinn would know some people. I could see him bringing Dirk Koetter in as an example.

i could also see Quinn (per Jones' "request " ?) ..promoting QB coach Doug Nussmeier to OC, maintaining the coach-player rapport with Dak Prescott.

 

[DonaldM]

Why are we selling Patriots merch on a Cowboys site?

 

[quickccc]

Bill Belichick has 2 playoff seasons and 0 playoff wins in his 9 years without Tom Brady

Pete Carroll has double digit wins in 1 of the 7 years he didn’t have at least 10 games out of Russell Wilson

Chuck Knoll had 0 double digit win seasons in the 9 years he didn’t have Terry Bradshaw

Mike McCarthy has 2 playoff appearances in the 6 years he’s coached without at least 10 games out of incumbent Aaron Rodgers

Sean Payton had Drew Brees for 15 years, failed to end with a winning record 5 times, and only made 2 NFCCGs for that entire run. And we think he’ll be way better than all those other HC’s when he doesn’t have his alltime QB?

Oh yeah, plus he’ll cost you some first round picks, so he’ll be coaching at a disadvantage.

- The irony is every highly heralded HC you mentioned, won SBs with an elite QB - HOFers or eventual HOFers. ..
Does this mean that we need to have an elite QB to even have a chance to win the SB .?

- What i thought made the Pats dynasty even more unique and extraordinary was a combination of Brady and Belichek,. Brady (best QB in NFL history, imo)
what he did on offense and leadership, and what Bill Belly does scheme-wise on defense to effectively take teams outta their offenses.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

i could also see Quinn (per Jones' "request " ?) ..promoting QB coach Doug Nussmeier to OC, maintaining the coach-player rapport with Dak Prescott.

I could see that, but maybe Quinn may decide to upgrade there too.

 

[quickccc]

I could see that, but maybe Quinn may decide to upgrade there too.

i get the impression that Quinn would have to be able to really convince the Jones to upgrade over Kellen and Nussmeirer who the Jones seem to have
have a really strong commitment to keep.

One of the reasons i believe they were dead set on keeping Kellen and Nuss around even upon McCarthy's arrival was not to interrupt Dak's rapport and familarity with those
two coaches.

Thus MM could not bring in his own QB and OC to run a new offense.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

i get the impression that Quinn would have to be able to really convince the Jones to upgrade over Kellen and Nussmeirer who the Jones seem to have
have a really strong commitment to keep.

One of the reasons i believe they were dead set on keeping Kellen and Nuss around even upon McCarthy's arrival was not to interrupt Dak's rapport and familarity with those
two coaches.

Thus MM could not bring in his own QB and OC to run a new offense.

I could see that, and familiarity is important for a QB.

 

[quickccc]

I could see that, and familiarity is important for a QB.

My question if we get Sean Payton .... and it's strongly assumed that Payton runs the offense and handles Dak - what then happens to Kellen and Nuss ?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

My question if we get Sean Payton .... and it's strongly assumed that Payton runs the offense and handles Dak - what then happens to Kellen and Nuss ?

Oh, I'd imagine they'd be gone, but I suspect so to would Quinn, unless Payton does an insanely good sell job. If he goes, what happens to Parsons?

 

[817Gill]

Sean Payton sure gets a lot of credit for having a similar resume to McCarthy. Jerry just wants a drinking buddy.

Resumes the same on paper, but watch the games. Excluding the early part of Mike’s career, his teams have not been buttoned up and schematically he grew stale. He doesn’t even run his own offense anymore that’s how outdated his schematics are. Dude literally said he doesn’t believe in motion lol.

Sean Payton’s teams are much more competitive and physical consistently. Schematically no one has ever even insinuated that Payton’s schemes are easy to defend. It’s regarded as one of the best systems in the league.

Both have their warts, but you can’t tell me you watch both guys on the sideline and both teams and feel like they are the same coach. No way.

Also, Sean Payton makes roster decisions and has been an integral part of the Saints roster building. Mike has never and will never do any of that, he’s said so himself.

One guy is a football maniac who studies the game religiously and one guy is a passive walk around HC. You can see the Parcells influence in Payton with his toughness and fiery personality. Mike’s laid back jokey and sometimes clueless demeanor is not a good match for this organization.

 

[quickccc]

Oh, I'd imagine they'd be gone, but I suspect so to would Quinn, unless Payton does an insanely good sell job. If he goes, what happens to Parsons?

- This is where i strongly believe the Jones will be insistent on Payton keeping Quinn on as DC.

- They've interfered before with HC candidates bringing in their hand picked DCs (ala Norv Turner wanting Ted Cottrell as DC)
and rest assure they will/would again do so again with Quinn/Payton.

- If Quinn has another year like '21 - as his unit led the NFL in INTs, then Quinn will highly likely solidify himself again as one of the top hottest coaches to hire candidates,...
. and he'll be gone as a future HC this time around.

- If Quinn departs as HC elsewhere, i strongly assume the Cowboys would prefer to see the closest defensive assistant that had a huge role in Quinn's scheme.
Could they promote secondary coach Joe Whitt Jr. to immediate DC ?
If Whitt joins Quinn elsewhere - could they have current George Edwards Jr promoted to immediate DC ?

- But you're right, we do not want old school Rod Marinelli types totally re-changing, re-scheming what happens to Parson's role.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

- This is where i strongly believe the Jones will be insistent on Payton keeping Quinn on as DC.

- They've interfered before with HC candidates bringing in their hand picked DCs (ala Norv Turner wanting Ted Cottrell as DC)
and rest assure they will/would again do so again with Quinn/Payton.

- If Quinn has another year like '21 - as his unit led the NFL in INTs, then Quinn will highly likely solidify himself again as one of the top hottest coaches to hire candidates,...
. and he'll be gone as a future HC this time around.

- If Quinn departs as HC elsewhere, i strongly assume the Cowboys would prefer to see the closest defensive assistant that had a huge role in Quinn's scheme.
Could they promote secondary coach Joe Whitt Jr. to immediate DC ?
If Whitt joins Quinn elsewhere - could they have current George Edwards Jr promoted to immediate DC ?

- But you're right, we do not want old school Rod Marinelli types totally re-changing, re-scheming what happens to Parson's role.

Exactly, and Jerry, I think, is too thick-skulled to find another coach like Quinn. He got lucky with Mike bringing him in. It's why I think, if we move on from Mike, Quinn MUST be the HC. He seems happy enough, and Jerry MIGHT be able to keep him here another year or two with Mike's contract, but he will eventually have to have him as the HC if this defence keeps building like we hope it will.

 

[Praxit]

..not good for MM going into season. Why dont these broadcasters keep speculation out of it?

 

[quickccc]

Exactly, and Jerry, I think, is too thick-skulled to find another coach like Quinn. He got lucky with Mike bringing him in. It's why I think, if we move on from Mike, Quinn MUST be the HC. He seems happy enough, and Jerry MIGHT be able to keep him here another year or two with Mike's contract, but he will eventually have to have him as the HC if this defence keeps building like we hope it will.

- Contrary to what some may think, .McCarthy did not bring Quinn in, ..management brought Quinn in for McCarthy. if it was up to MM, ..his hand picked DC Mike Nolan would
have been right back here a 2nd year as DC.

- Along with the DL coach Jim Tomsula (who management despised and could not wait to fire per Gregory vs Aldon Smith)
Nolan was an utter embarrassment to the organization, broke team records for worst defense ever and they did not want to be in position for a repeat.
Like it or not, that's already a strike against McCarthy's continuation as Cowboys HC. game management, halftime adjustments or lack thereof, slow there of,
how team response thru him,.. in-house coaching adjustments.

- While i really believe the Jones handcuffed McCarthy and any suggested offense he could have added to K-Moore, i also think they are observing and having thoughts
and mind made up about MM that could serve a short ending to his regime here.