Matt Forte To Dallas Cowboys Trade Is Heating Up And Here’s Why

[DFWJC]

and that can be spread over 5 years.

plus I believe he would earn every dollar of that amount.

He's due 9 million in 2015....fully guaranteed.

If it lasted 5 years we're talking 40+ million.

But I was just stating facts and not weighing in on the crystal ball of how will play the next 5 years.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Forte is on the books for one year. His contract expires in 2015. So for people saying that why would we pay $7MM for Forte and not Murray?

Because Murray is a cap risk beyond this season. Forte is not.

I doubt we have interest but people need to stop comparing Forte's contract with what Murray would be making.

Exactly............I am surprised so many people are not picking up on this.

Stephen has this chart that says by what % RBs decline in production once they hit 28. The issue was not paying Murray his money for this season, the issue was paying Murray the next couple of seasons when history shows a 10% drop in production each year after 28 for example.

Forte is on the last year of his contract so you do not have this problem with him where you are paying a large salary and his production is declining. Now I am not saying I want Forte, I am just saying that the contract issues we had with Murray are totally different than with Forte, you are comparing apples and oranges.

I will say this however, Forte would be better than any RB we currently have on the roster by a significant margin so if we are talking a mid round pick you have to consider it.

 

[Corso]

Exactly............I am surprised so many people are not picking up on this.

Stephen has this chart that says by what % RBs decline in production once they hit 28. The issue was not paying Murray his money for this season, the issue was paying Murray the next couple of seasons when history shows a 10% drop in production each year after 28 for example.

Forte is on the last year of his contract so you do not have this problem with him where you are paying a large salary and his production is declining. Now I am not saying I want Forte, I am just saying that the contract issues we had with Murray are totally different than with Forte, you are comparing apples and oranges.

I will say this however, Forte would be better than any RB we currently have on the roster by a significant margin so if we are talking a mid round pick you have to consider it.

Great post, but then this team is then already cultivating a culture of mercenary RB's to play behind this (hopefully, continually) great line and players will respond...
Shoot. Forget the "but then", I am fully supporting this. Any FA RB will want to run behind this line if it continues to live to it's fruition.

One Year Mercenaries of the highest order baby!

 

[Corso]

Exactly............I am surprised so many people are not picking up on this.

Stephen has this chart that says by what % RBs decline in production once they hit 28. The issue was not paying Murray his money for this season, the issue was paying Murray the next couple of seasons when history shows a 10% drop in production each year after 28 for example.

Forte is on the last year of his contract so you do not have this problem with him where you are paying a large salary and his production is declining. Now I am not saying I want Forte, I am just saying that the contract issues we had with Murray are totally different than with Forte, you are comparing apples and oranges.

I will say this however, Forte would be better than any RB we currently have on the roster by a significant margin so if we are talking a mid round pick you have to consider it.

I keep thinking about the chemistry of the backfield on this type of mindset and I've actually convinced myself that it would make the OL gel that much harder, and closer.
Whoever is behind us- We Will Block.

Maybe... I would hope. These guys got nasty in their genes and only need the merest of thoughts to set them beyond "Stun". Frederick? Martin? Those two are all out nasty and Tyron has an Ego (he has HOF aspirations, remember) that matches his abilities. I think this OL will work hard for whoever the rock is handed to and that is this team's plan.

I lost myself in this post and honestly don't even want to look up and see if this reply is relevant to your post. If I did- it was out of respect of your opinion.
I'm going to go take a nap...

 

[dallasdave]

I keep thinking about the chemistry of the backfield on this type of mindset and I've actually convinced myself that it would make the OL gel that much harder, and closer.
Whoever is behind us- We Will Block.

Maybe... I would hope. These guys got nasty in their genes and only need the merest of thoughts to set them beyond "Stun". Frederick? Martin? Those two are all out nasty and Tyron has an Ego (he has HOF aspirations, remember) that matches his abilities. I think this OL will work hard for whoever the rock is handed to and that is this team's plan.

I lost myself in this post and honestly don't even want to look up and see if this reply is relevant to your post. If I did- it was out of respect of your opinion.
I'm going to go take a nap...

What Corso is saying is he wants Adrian Peterson in a Cowboy uniform.

 

[Corso]

What Corso is saying is he wants Adrian Peterson in a Cowboy uniform.

I wouldn't cry, that's for sure- depending on what's given up, of course.
No Diamond, no cry.
I remember, when we used to stay... In the government yard in Trenchtown...

 

[dallasdave]

I wouldn't cry, that's for sure- depending on what's given up, of course.
No Diamond, no cry.
I remember, when we used to stay... In the government yard in Trenchtown...

I just want to say the 2015-2016 Champions of the World the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Corso]

I just want to say the 2015-2016 Champions of the World the Dallas Cowboys.

Don't put real money on it. One monster hit on Romo from one blown single assignment on any one of the hundreds of plays will negate everything.
I hope not, but...
Isn't the NFL wonderfully unpredictable?

 

[Beast_from_East]

I keep thinking about the chemistry of the backfield on this type of mindset and I've actually convinced myself that it would make the OL gel that much harder, and closer.
Whoever is behind us- We Will Block.

Maybe... I would hope. These guys got nasty in their genes and only need the merest of thoughts to set them beyond "Stun". Frederick? Martin? Those two are all out nasty and Tyron has an Ego (he has HOF aspirations, remember) that matches his abilities. I think this OL will work hard for whoever the rock is handed to and that is this team's plan.

I lost myself in this post and honestly don't even want to look up and see if this reply is relevant to your post. If I did- it was out of respect of your opinion.
I'm going to go take a nap...

Excellent post bro....................I agree that our o-line is the best in the game, but I think the runner also matters as well and Forte would be a major upgrade over what we currently have. So while Forte would not be my first choice on the trade market, if the choice is Forte or McFadden/Randle combo............well, the choice for me is obvious.

 

[skinsscalper]

I am shocked that many people liked that comment. Broddius gives cowboy fans something most fans do not have....in-house scout who fans have access to.

Broaddus isn't an "In house scout". He's a shill for the team that USED to be a scout but is no longer deemed worthy of the position. Broaddus hasn't broken any news about the Cowboys since he joined the website. I take every single thing the guy says with an elephant sized grain of salt.

With that being said. I appreciate the guy's effort. He DOES try to bring some insight to the equations from a scout's perspective. That can be valuable at times, no doubt. But I'm not looking to Broaddus for any "breaking news" by a long shot.

 

[dallasdave]

Don't put real money on it. One monster hit on Romo from one blown single assignment on any one of the hundreds of plays will negate everything.
I hope not, but...
Isn't the NFL wonderfully unpredictable?

Now I won't be able to sleep.

 

[muck4doo]

I like Forte as well, but he is expensive. We might have well kept Murray. I'd rather Miller from the Dolphins, or Moreno in FA. Moreno in FA actually looks like the best bet. I will slap anyone suggesting we trade Leary for an RB.

 

[Knotamus]

I will say this however, Forte would be better than any RB we currently have on the roster by a significant margin so if we are talking a mid round pick you have to consider it.

I agree with the first part of your post, But I'll have to respectfully disagree with your comment in bold. I can't see how a player that will be 30 by years end is significantly better than the talented backs we have already. And I definitely don't think giving Chicago a mid round pick for a one-year rental is good business sense. Hell, Dallas could of had Ajayi with a mid round pick this year. We'd be kicking our own butts if the Bears found a quality RB with next years mid round pick. There's no denying Forte has definitely declined quickly over the past two years, only averaging a pedestrian 3.8 yards per carry. If anything, we already have a back like that in McFadden...But I'll add that McFadden is three years younger, is most definitely faster, better suited for the zone blocking scheme, and has never played on a play-off contender (yes, believe it or not that does make a motivational difference). Call me a homer, but I really want to see Randle running behind this OL again, he looked great in the limited opportunities last year. Randle hasn't been giving a chance to carry the load yet, so to say that Forte is significantly better is strictly a matter of opinion bc we haven't seen Randle as the lead back. I'll admit that the name Forte is appealing simply because we know what he's done, but that doesn't mean that's who he is now. I understand the concern at runningback, but its unfair to over look the RB's we have. They are talented and if any of them ARE going to revive or become Stars in this league...then their best chance will be running behind the best OL in football.

side note: Forte is a prime example as to why Dallas wasn't willing to overpay Murray.. Forte has declined significantly since he turned 28.

 

[cowboyvic]

No to A. Peterson and Matt Forte. they need to go with the RB they have. no to Miller from Miama too. if they were going to be this desperate about RB, they should have paid Murray. they need to just slow down.

 

[Nightman]

Exactly............I am surprised so many people are not picking up on this.

Stephen has this chart that says by what % RBs decline in production once they hit 28. The issue was not paying Murray his money for this season, the issue was paying Murray the next couple of seasons when history shows a 10% drop in production each year after 28 for example.

Forte is on the last year of his contract so you do not have this problem with him where you are paying a large salary and his production is declining. Now I am not saying I want Forte, I am just saying that the contract issues we had with Murray are totally different than with Forte, you are comparing apples and oranges.

I will say this however, Forte would be better than any RB we currently have on the roster by a significant margin so if we are talking a mid round pick you have to consider it.

So the answer is trade for and pay 8m to a 29 year old with triple the amount of touches.

The problem is if Forte falls off even farther we might miss out on the Super Bowl.

Too much risk.

 

[joseephuss]

side note: Forte is a prime example as to why Dallas wasn't willing to overpay Murray.. Forte has declined significantly since he turned 28.

His production don't agree. He produced his top two seasons in yards from scrimmage his last two years.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FortMa00.htm

I wouldn't trade anything of high value for him or any other back.

 

[Joe Realist]

I hope this is false

 

[Nightman]

His production don't agree. He produced his top two seasons in yards from scrimmage his last two years.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FortMa00.htm

I wouldn't trade anything of high value for him or any other back.

They dumped it off to him out the backfield a ton last year. He had great production for fantasy but in reality it wasn't that impressive at 3.9 YPC and 6TDs.

Not worth 8m and a trade by a long shot.

 

[joseephuss]

They dumped it off to him out the backfield a ton last year. He had great production for fantasy but in reality it wasn't that impressive at 3.9 YPC and 6TDs.

Not worth 8m and a trade by a long shot.

He scored 10 TDs total last season and was third in the league in yards from scrimmage.

I agree that his base salary and roster bonus are too much to warrant trading anything of high value for him.

 

[Nightman]

He scored 10 TDs total last season and was third in the league in yards from scrimmage.

I agree that his base salary and roster bonus are too much to warrant trading anything of high value for him.

I was just talking about his rushing totals. He has never been a good finisher or goal line back.

100 dump offs is an outlier but is why he was solid in FF.