Matt Forte To Dallas Cowboys Trade Is Heating Up And Here’s Why

[big dog cowboy]

So, without reading 10 pages......let me get this straight. Dallas will pay Forte 7 million and possible lose OL depth and a draft pick instead of re-signing their home-grown guy for a mere 1 million more and lose no other resources?

No.

Did that help?

 

[Plankton]

That's it. You can't eliminate the salary from the player.

And to accept that salary on the Cowboy team then Carr would need to be released. Yeah Carr is overpriced but to make the corner position that much weaker for a almost 30 YO running back who only averaged 3.9 YPC last season?

No.

It always comes back to corner with you, doesn't it Mike?

 

[Nightman]

It is closer to 8m for Forte and if Dallas wanted to pay that they would have kept the 27 year old Murray.

 

[Redball Express]

No one fits a first rounder in my opinion and certainly not Davis who I spoke about earlier. The original article posted mentioned Davis among names and I thought he would be an interesting option to explore but no way for a first. I don't think guys like Miller, Forte, Michael or Mason are either. I think we have to roll with the current crew, keep watching and wait and see what turns up once training camp and cuts start happening.

I know Jones threw out that they would consider trading a first rounder for a player that could help immediately...but does that player need to be an RB?

You know..

No one fits a first rounder in my opinion and certainly not Davis who I spoke about earlier. The original article posted mentioned Davis among names and I thought he would be an interesting option to explore but no way for a first. I don't think guys like Miller, Forte, Michael or Mason are either. I think we have to roll with the current crew, keep watching and wait and see what turns up once training camp and cuts start happening.

I know Jones threw out that they would consider trading a first rounder for a player that could help immediately...but does that player need to be an RB?

I don't want Forte but I do find it amusing that the people saying Forte and his 3.9 YPC is total garbage(along with he is past his prime and has lost a step) are some of the same posters that have no problem with McFadden and his 3.3 YPC.

Just a observation I noticed going through these 12 pages.

No one fits a first rounder in my opinion and certainly not Davis who I spoke about earlier. The original article posted mentioned Davis among names and I thought he would be an interesting option to explore but no way for a first. I don't think guys like Miller, Forte, Michael or Mason are either. I think we have to roll with the current crew, keep watching and wait and see what turns up once training camp and cuts start happening.

I know Jones threw out that they would consider trading a first rounder for a player that could help immediately...but does that player need to be an RB?

I would think its a fishing expedition for sire.

No one fits a first rounder in my opinion and certainly not Davis who I spoke about earlier. The original article posted mentioned Davis among names and I thought he would be an interesting option to explore but no way for a first. I don't think guys like Miller, Forte, Michael or Mason are either. I think we have to roll with the current crew, keep watching and wait and see what turns up once training camp and cuts start happening.

I know Jones threw out that they would consider trading a first rounder for a player that could help immediately...but does that player need to be an RB?

I'm of the opinion that its a Fish Expedition comment for a team to step up and consider a trade.

Clearly..RB was ignored conspicuously in the draft much to all amazement.

This to me means somewhere, Dallas had had conversations with some team for a RB.

Could be they are waiting for the June cuts..?

Don't know.

But I sense there is something up and guys like Dunbar and Williams are on the bubble or possibly even trade bait in a deal.

We'll see.

I just don't see us sitting as Conference champs needing to improve and doing it without further addressing the Rb position.

Worst case for the offense is we end up with some injuries early to our RBs and we don't have a work horse guy and then Romo and the OL have to start throwing the ball instead of running it to move the chains..

I don't want to see that.

If Linehan has to reinvent the offense on the fly it's going to look like Detroit when Linehan had to throw so much there to be competitive.

And that's going to expose our OL a lot as they were not the best pass protectors.

They were good at running the ball..but I thought only average at pass protection.

So we'll see.

 

[DC Cowboy]

However, the Cowboys have also been holding their cards very close to not let anyone know what they are up to.

Cowboys analysts Bryan Broaddus believes the Cowboys are going to add another piece to their backfield. He also believes that the Cowboys will probably be shopping offensive lineman Ronald Leary.


http://sportsandgoal.com/nfl/matt-forte-to-dallas-cowboys-trade-is-heating-up-and-heres-why/

WHY? Why would I give up anything without giving Chris Johnson a look first.

 

[Wood]

Not a fan of Broaddus

I am shocked that many people liked that comment. Broddius gives cowboy fans something most fans do not have....in-house scout who fans have access to.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I can think of others I'd rather have and would come cheaper than going after Forte.

That said if they're convinced he makes a difference I'm not going to be on here complaining like I've lost my mind either.

 

[31smackdown]

This is all just a witch hunt because Jones made those comments, which in reality were taken for more than what they were worth. He was basically saying that since they essentially got 3 first rounders this year that while they wouldn't normally ever consider trading a first rounder, he would be more open to it given the recent draft and the timeline they are looking at with Romo, etc.. that's all. He wasn't shopping his first round pick next year, he was responding to a question driven by the media's insistence that there is no way Dallas can go with what they have at RB, which I think is totally untrue.

Forte or anyone else who is not AP, and probably not even AP, are getting acquired for a first round pick and the big contracts that come with them. I'll take Steven Jackson, who already said he wants to play for a contender and let Randle and McFadden show what they can do.

 

[xwalker]

I am shocked that many people liked that comment. Broddius gives cowboy fans something most fans do not have....in-house scout who fans have access to.

IMO, it would be better to have no information than to constantly get wrong information that misleads the fan-base.

Broaddus is wrong way more often that he is correct. The fact that he works for the Cowboys and is an ex-scout causes many fans and other media to give him way more credibility than he deserves based on his past predictions and past player analysis.

He said about 1000 times last season that Marinelli was going to Tampa after the season. Regardless of whether he said that was just a gut feeling, his position a Cowboys employee causes people to take his comments as near fact. Even other media members start repeating things that Broaddus has said.

Parcells fired Broaddus because Parcells thought he was a moron.

 

[Sydla]

Forte is on the books for one year. His contract expires in 2015. So for people saying that why would we pay $7MM for Forte and not Murray?

Because Murray is a cap risk beyond this season. Forte is not.

I doubt we have interest but people need to stop comparing Forte's contract with what Murray would be making.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

However, the Cowboys have also been holding their cards very close to not let anyone know what they are up to.

Cowboys analysts Bryan Broaddus believes the Cowboys are going to add another piece to their backfield. He also believes that the Cowboys will probably be shopping offensive lineman Ronald Leary.


http://sportsandgoal.com/nfl/matt-forte-to-dallas-cowboys-trade-is-heating-up-and-heres-why/

Forte? Dang, son, Randle et al. might not be the worst thing to happen.

 

[Doc50]

Yep.

McFadden's 3.3 YPC doesn't knock my socks off but he's a "minimum-wager" in the NFL world.

And if he can't cut it, then there are guys like Chris Johnson, Knowshon Moreno and Stephen Jackson out there who I know can get 4.0+ YPC in this offense... And they won't cost the Cowboys a draft pick or millions in salary.

For that matter, our newest pet cat addition - Synjin Days - should be strong enough to get 4 ypc behind this line.

I don't think JJ is in the mindset anymore of making deals just for the fun it.

I'm confident that our current RB stable will be wowing us in the preseason due to the strength of our OL. Our blockers frequently get to the second level, and a crease with no LB to fill will lead to big chunks of yardage, with more long runs from this group than with Murray.

 

[bodi]

Parcells fired Broaddus because Parcells thought he was a moron.

well I think Parcells is way over rated coach - IE a moron

a bad hire by Jerry

once a Giant Always a Giant scum bag

 

[bodi]

and what no news yet ?

amazin

 

[Nightman]

Forte is on the books for one year. His contract expires in 2015. So for people saying that why would we pay $7MM for Forte and not Murray?

Because Murray is a cap risk beyond this season. Forte is not.

I doubt we have interest but people need to stop comparing Forte's contract with what Murray would be making.

Murray would be a 3 year hit tops. It is not like he would be here forever.

And for 2015 it is Murray for 5m and Forte for 8m.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I have said it before and I will say it again; You do not pay age, even if it is for just one year. Say no to grandpa RBs and say hello to youth.

 

[Sydla]

Murray would be a 3 year hit tops. It is not like he would be here forever.

And for 2015 it is Murray for 5m and Forte for 8m.

It still doesn't change the point. If Forte bombs, he's a one year hit. If Murray gets hurt or regresses next year, he's a three year hit or longer.

So anyone saying "well if we are willing to pay Forte 8MM then we should have signed Murray" is misguided.

 

[DFWJC]

Murray got 18 mil guaranteed
You start from there and go up if discussing his "minimum" hit

 

[Corso]

I am shocked that many people liked that comment. Broddius gives cowboy fans something most fans do not have....in-house scout who fans have access to.

Broaddus is no better, or worse than anyone else working in Sports Media right now.
He gives lazy analysis and offers conjectures that he holds so firm that he gets defensive about it when challenged.
Just like that other guy... Fisher and all of his ilk nowadays. It's so sad. Journalists are now a caricature of themselves from their predecessors. I'm ashamed sometimes and I don't even do Journalism anymore!

Some people don't like that stuff and he has had a few real faux pas that made him look even worse to posters and fans who pay real attention here the past few years.
Really he is simply an easy outlet to people's issues with sport's coverage in general and he's our resident Cowboy media guy that get's a lot of attention from us fans. It makes sense.

Now if he really did give serious scouting info (which he doesn't) then he would seriously separate himself from the pack, but he has not chosen to do so. I wonder why?
His previous profession was Scout for the NFL and that's one of the least things he focuses on. He jumps on scouting College guys only when the draft is up on top of him.
Sometimes I wonder if that's what got him fired...

 

[Nightman]

Murray got 18 mil guaranteed
You start from there and go up if discussing his "minimum" hit

and that can be spread over 5 years.

plus I believe he would earn every dollar of that amount.