Matt Jones to Dallas??

[AbeBeta]

I'm shocked that this is considered a WOW factor or a good fall back plan. This is neither.

If you can get nothing else, and this guy could be had for like a 6th rounder, then it's a nice move for depth purposes, but it's hardly a wow factor.

This certainly isn't a WOW move -- but I have to say for a late pick, I like it.

Jones has certainly shown flashes of good play -- his numbers don't look great but really, Jax doesn't throw the ball a ton, and when they do they really spread it out. Of course, he's also show flashes of laziness and not-getting-it-ness.

But hey, for a 5 or a 6, he's a nice risk.

 

[BlueStar II]

:starspin

Matt Jones a WOW guy? Not really.

We already have one project at WR. Not sure there is roster space for another.

:starspin That's just how I feel about it, one project at WR is enough.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I like Matt Jones i think he would fight in nice at Dallas and for a 7th round pick i wouldn't complain.

 

[dbair1967]

This certainly isn't a WOW move -- but I have to say for a late pick, I like it.

Jones has certainly shown flashes of good play -- his numbers don't look great but really, Jax doesn't throw the ball a ton, and when they do they really spread it out. Of course, he's also show flashes of laziness and not-getting-it-ness.

But hey, for a 5 or a 6, he's a nice risk.

I must have missed that, when has he evr shown anything worth a darn?

He looks like a guy who should have been a late rd pick or undrafted free agent

we have those guys here already, and some of ours actually have some promise

David

 

[CaptainAmerica]

This guy might be the best example ever of the benefits of not getting caught up in pre-draft, combine hype. It was unbelievable how some media types like Mort jumped all over Jones and started hyping him as a first round pick even though he never played WR just because he worked out well in Indy.

His situation is what makes the draft so intriguing to me.

 

[dbair1967]

This guy might be the best example ever of the benefits of not getting caught up in pre-draft, combine hype. It was unbelievable how some media types like Mort jumped all over Jones and started hyping him as a first round pick even though he never played WR just because he worked out well in Indy.

I agree...he probably owes Mort alot of $$$ IMO, because the guy should have never been a 1st rd pick and Mort's clamoring and butt kissing definitely got a buzz over him

Stanback has a better chance at WR than Jones ever did (and has actually played the position)...he's every bit the athlete and more, yet he was a 4th rounder...

he's a massive bust...I bet he gets released after June 1st

David

 

[AbeBeta]

I must have missed that, when has he evr shown anything worth a darn?

He looks like a guy who should have been a late rd pick or undrafted free agent

we have those guys here already, and some of ours actually have some promise

David

Perhaps you should actually watch some football -- Jones put up 4 career 100 yard games has averaged about 34 catches a year on a team that doesn't throw the ball so much.

Again, I'm not saying he's great but to ignore that he's had some productivity is silly.

 

[dbair1967]

Perhaps you should actually watch some football -- Jones put up 4 career 100 yard games has averaged about 34 catches a year on a team that doesn't throw the ball so much.

Again, I'm not saying he's great but to ignore that he's had some productivity is silly.

It's even more silly to argue about the play of a guy they've been trying to replace since he set foot there...the guy blows dude...at best he'd be the 4th or 5th WR here...and he isnt worth it

David

 

[DR.WARE]

I like Matt Jones i think he would fight in nice at Dallas and for a 7th round pick i wouldn't complain.

for a 7th round pick i would do it also

 

[dbair1967]

for a 7th round pick i would do it also

we also used a 7th rd pick to find Patrick Crayton, who's a far better player

I'd rather find another Crayton than waste a pick on an obvious bust with absolutely no upside

unlike Jones, Crayton actually has and developed WR skills

David

 

[ZeroClub]

Perhaps you should actually watch some football -- Jones put up 4 career 100 yard games has averaged about 34 catches a year on a team that doesn't throw the ball so much.

Again, I'm not saying he's great but to ignore that he's had some productivity is silly.

His development has also been slowed by injuries (those dinged up, walking wounded sorts of injuries). That's been a big part of his problem (along with inconsistent quarterbacking).

 

[DFWJC]

His development has also been slowed by injuries (those dinged up, walking wounded sorts of injuries). That's been a big part of his problem (along with inconsistent quarterbacking).

His development has been slowed--according to Jags fans and even coaches--by work ethic and focus. Also, he did have a disadvantage of coming in as a college QB--so plenty of to learn at WR.

Unless you are talking about seasons prior to 2007, I completely disagree about inconsistant quarterbacking. The light went on for Garrard last year and he was a ROCK, and known for his consistency. If anything, Garrard was the one suffering from lack of decent WR play. But before 2007, yes, Jaq QB play was erratic at best.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

we also used a 7th rd pick to find Patrick Crayton, who's a far better player

I'd rather find another Crayton than waste a pick on an obvious bust with absolutely no upside

unlike Jones, Crayton actually has and developed WR skills

David

The problem is that another Crayton will not accomplish what is needed in our offense. We really need somebody who can play a more vertical game. I don't know if it's Matt Jones or not. I do know that while it would be great to have an All Pro type WR opposite TO, much of the same can be accomplished by a less skilled WR that can provide a vertical stretch. Anything that prevents the defense from cheating the safety over to TO and dropping one down in the box will allow our offense to be much more effective.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

we also used a 7th rd pick to find Patrick Crayton, who's a far better player

I'd rather find another Crayton than waste a pick on an obvious bust with absolutely no upside

unlike Jones, Crayton actually has and developed WR skills

David

i'm not knocking Crayton however it's easy to be good when you have an all pro WR and an All pro TE in the same offense as yourself. I think if he came to dallas he would be the player he was hyped up to be if not more.

 

[dbair1967]

The problem is that another Crayton will not accomplish what is needed in our offense. We really need somebody who can play a more vertical game. I don't know if it's Matt Jones or not.

I know, and he cant

I do know that while it would be great to have an All Pro type WR opposite TO, much of the same can be accomplished by a less skilled WR that can provide a vertical stretch. Anything that prevents the defense from cheating the safety over to TO and dropping one down in the box will allow our offense to be much more effective.

I dont like any of the WR's that much as first rd picks this yr, but if some of those borderline guys make it into the 2nd, any of them would be a far better option that Matt Jones...Jones sux as a WR, period.

I'd rather go with what we had last yr, in fact I'd say we'd probably get more from Miles Austin than Matt Jones...Austin is big, has tremendous speed and can actually get open

David

 

[dbair1967]

i'm not knocking Crayton however it's easy to be good when you have an all pro WR and an All pro TE in the same offense as yourself. I think if he came to dallas he would be the player he was hyped up to be if not more.

you know what they say...there's one born every minute

David

 

[DaBoys4Life]

you know what they say...there's one born every minute

David

no i don't know what you mean.

 

[Sarge]

Matt Jones = :zzz:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I know, and he cant



I dont like any of the WR's that much as first rd picks this yr, but if some of those borderline guys make it into the 2nd, any of them would be a far better option that Matt Jones...Jones sux as a WR, period.

I'd rather go with what we had last yr, in fact I'd say we'd probably get more from Miles Austin than Matt Jones...Austin is big, has tremendous speed and can actually get open

David

I don't really agree with this. I will say that I don't know if your wrong about Jones, you may be right but I will say that one thing he does is catch TDs at better then the average rate. Matt Jones scores TD 13.7% of the time he makes a catch. If you compare this to some of the top WRs here is what you see.

Matt Jones 13.7 TD Ratio , 102 Rec, 14 TDs, 1392 Yds.


Here are the top 10 active WRs and there TD ratios. Also, included some of the stats that are comparable in the first 3 seasons. The rest were unreal from the start.

Marvin Harrision 11.8 TD Ratio
Ike Bruce 8.5 TD Ratio
Keenan McCardell 7.1 TD Ratio , 24 Rec, 4 TDs, 374 Yds.
TO 10.3 TD Ratio
Tony Gonzales TD Ratio 8.9
Torry Holt 8.8 TD Ratio
Randy Moss 10.6 TD Ratio
Eric Moulds 6.4 TD Ratio, 116 Rec, 11 TDs, 1941 Yds.
Mushin Muhammed 7.5 TD Ratio, 120 Rec, 7 TDs, 1665 Yds.
Hines Ward 9.0 TD Ratio, 124 Rec, 11 TDs, 1556 Yds.

Just as a point of referance, here are the 3 top Rec leaders all time.

Jerry Rice 12.7 TD Ratio
Cris Carter 11.8 TD Ratio, 89 Rec, 18 TDs, 1450 Yds
Tim Brown 9.0 TD Ratio, 62 Rec, 8 TDs, 998 Yds

 

[FLcowboy]

From an NBC sports article on 5 possible trades for the draft. Sorry if repost and hope I'm not violating any rules. Not new on site but fairly new as a poster:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23935931/


4. Matt Jones to the Cowboys
Jones' name has not been mentioned as a trade candidate lately, although reports in January indicated that most offensive staffers wanted to dump him. Jaguars head coach Jack Del Rio has defended Jones in the past, but the team has sufficient depth after acquiring Jerry Porter and Troy Williamson to make a deal.
Dallas owner Jerry Jones wants to add some “Wow” to his offense, so look for the Cowboys to get in the mix for Roy Williams. If that doesn’t work, Matt Jones is a nice fallback plan. He has flashed big-play ability as a pro, but isn’t consistent. Jerry Jones can try to rehabilitate one of his treasured Arkansas Razorbacks in exchange for a mid-to-late round draft pick.

The Jags made a huge mistake when they drafted Jones. Jerry doesn't need to mirror it. Roll the dice on a draftee. The odds are better.