McCarthy Stinks As An OC

[Sydla]

Nah.. Dak’s not being asked to be an answer anymore.

He’s just running a system.

If you want someone who is more of an answer then you need to try and find an actual playmaker at the QB position.

Dak’s doing a good job at what he’s actually asked to do.

You are not going to get an argument from me that it might be time to send Dak off into the sunset.

My issue is that some here seem convinced McCarthy is some really good OC/HC that is being stunted by Dak. He's not. He's an average coach who flamed out in GB with Rodgers, couldn't sniff a HC gig until Jerry came calling looking for a retread.

 

[Rock423]

Dak’s whatever dude.

Sure.

 

[Sydla]

He won’t be the last OC Dak gets fired.

Which doesn't address my point. Maybe the OCs weren't all that good either? Again, Jerry's track record of coaches after Jimmy is woeful. Why would you assume Moore and McCarthy are brilliant hires given that history?

You seem to think it's either/or. It's likely not.

 

[morat1959]

Which doesn't address my point. Maybe the OCs weren't all that good either? Again, Jerry's track record of coaches after Jimmy is woeful. Why would you assume Moore and McCarthy are brilliant hires given that history?

You seem to think it's either/or. It's likely not.

You’re missing the point. You’ll never be able to judge how good any OC is with Dak at QB. He will handicap any and all.

 

[CATCH17]

You are not going to get an argument from me that it might be time to send Dak off into the sunset.

My issue is that some here seem convinced McCarthy is some really good OC/HC that is being stunted by Dak. He's not. He's an average coach who flamed out in GB with Rodgers, couldn't sniff a HC gig until Jerry came calling looking for a retread.

I like the playcalling.

 

[Sydla]

You’re missing the point. You’ll never be able to judge how good any OC is with Dak at QB. He will handicap any and all.

Nah, I think you can still judge. I mean with Dak, some of Moore's offenses lit up the scoreboard but there was still something off, especially when facing better teams.

McCarthy is just not a great OC. And by the way, when it was announced he would be the one replacing Moore last February, there were A LOT of questions and concerns about him from beat writers, analysts, etc. Even some former players kind of scratched their heads. Rodgers basically called him a dunce.

So I am not sure why we are going to ignore that, ignore the fact he flamed out in GB as a play caller, couldn't get a gig for a year (and in that time, a first time HC in LaFleur was able to coach Rodgers to two MVPS and two NFCCGs) but assume he's actually quite good but Dak is ruining him.

 

[Sydla]

I like the playcalling.

What about it? LOL.

This is going to be Garrett all over again I fear.

 

[morat1959]

Nah, I think you can still judge. I mean with Dak, some of Moore's offenses lit up the scoreboard but there was still something off, especially when facing better teams.

McCarthy is just not a great OC. And by the way, when it was announced he would be the one replacing Moore last February, there were A LOT of questions and concerns about him from beat writers, analysts, etc. Even some former players kind of scratched their heads. Rodgers basically called him a dunce.

So I am not sure why we are going to ignore that, ignore the fact he flamed out in GB as a play caller, couldn't get a gig for a year (and in that time, a first time HC in LaFleur was able to coach Rodgers to two MVPS and two NFCCGs) but assume he's actually quite good but Dak is ruining him.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree. It’s nice have different opinions and not attacking fellow posters with personal attacks. I bet you’re old like me and have been a fan for many years?????

 

[GINeric]

He's only been without McCarthy for 3 full seasons and in two of them, he won MVP and the Packers were in the NFCCG. Seems getting away from McCarthy kind of helped him.

Again.... where are his other SUPERBOWL rings without McCarthy. All that other stuff sounds nice, but people play to become superbowl champions.

Yes Rodgers is a great quarterback but he has choked in the playoffs when it most mattered.

 

[Zman5]

Once I saw Edoga doing his turnstile impressions, I knew Dak wasn't going to have a good day. He still has PTSD from Chaz Green experiment.

 

[khiladi]

I thought it was Moore’s offense that runs too many curl and dig routes…

 

[Sydla]

Again.... where are his other SUPERBOWL rings without McCarthy. All that other stuff sounds nice, but people play to become superbowl champions.

Yes Rodgers is a great quarterback but he has choked in the playoffs when it most mattered.

I don't know what to tell you. McCarthy got run out of GB for his failures. His offenses became stagnant. He couldn't get another job for a year. His hiring in Dallas was met with skepticism, when he named himself OC in Feb, again a lot of people were skeptical given how he bombed out in GB. In the meantime, a creative, first time HC turned Rodgers around and the team was quite successful and Rodgers had two great seasons.

The evidence is there that McCarthy is what we see - average, decent, mediocre, something in that range.

It's perplexing that people think he's actually quite good but then again, we had people defending Garrett right up until he got fired.

 

[Sydla]

I thought it was Moore’s offense that runs too many curl and dig routes…

McCarthy then said, "Hold my beer............."

 

[quickccc]

LOL, just wanted to get your attention. Yeah, he's kind of the problem but there is another big issue here.

McCarthy stinks as an OC. His play calling is at times peculiar, bland, abysmal and perplexing. The RZ play calls range anywhere from bizarre to just stupid.

I went back during the game and watched a handful of plays and the number of plays we run where all our receivers run like 5 yard curls and digs at the same time is mindnumbing. Now when you add that to the fact Dak also likes to dink and dunk when uncomfortable, you get a mindnumbling bad offense. A buddy who is a coach (granted at a much lower level than the NFL) pointed out during the game how bland and vanilla we are inside the 20. We have no rub routes, no crossing routes designed to create some confusion/congestion. We don't scheme guys open like a lot of teams do. We are predicated largely on the defense making a mistake or a receiver making a contested catch.

Remember, McCarthy had arguably one of the greatest QBs of all time in Rodgers and underachieved as the OC. To the point, I believe, he gave up playcalling.

To think he's not a problem here and just rant about Dak or the WRs or the OL or whatever is stupid. Downright stupid. McCarthy is a major, major problem.

Frankly this supposedly Texas Coast offense looks much like the Jon Gruden dink n' dunk WCO.
I found nuthin' unique and exciting about this new Cowboys offense.

- I saw it as vastly conservative unimaginative and limited. And i didn't think we used our RBs enuff in the pass game
other than the RB screen to Rico Dowdle for our only TD of the game. (Hunter had a nice swing pass)

- Sorry but the Cards defense is nowhere good enuff to shut our offense down.

- And BTW, .. did we trade for speedy WR Brandin Cooks, to be dinkin' & dunkin' ?

- Big Mac gonna use the deep shell zone excuse for not pushing ball downfield but your coaches
suppose to scheme-design and move players around to take what you want from an defense, than bending to
take only what defense gives you. You have make them adjust to you, instead of vice versa...

- what if ALL the future teams we'll face decide to blue print the Cards game and go deep zone vs us ?
There is a difference between adding the underneath pass game to your downfield passing - not going solo
dink n dunk only

- and frankly i don't see what is special about his run block scheme too. It doesn't scheme run blocks to spring
big play splash runs either.

- I think we are big trouble on offense if it continues like this. We have not improved or gotten better,
i think we could end up being worst. and yes, we may regret and be a far lessen offense under
Big Mac that what we were under ex-OC Kellen Moore.

 

[khiladi]

McCarthy wasn’t hired to be OC. Mike’s contract runs through 2024, like Dak’s. Hopefully, Jerry cares about signing Micah.

 

[quickccc]

Hard being both the HC and playcaller.

Then what is the worth and value of OC Brian Schottenhemeir ?

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

You can't fashion an offense when you have an incompetent QB.

 

[CowboysDrew]

Once I saw Edoga doing his turnstile impressions, I knew Dak wasn't going to have a good day. He still has PTSD from Chaz Green experiment.

Shhh, the OL was fine. I heard it here.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

McCarthy wasn’t hired to be OC. Mike’s contract runs through 2024, like Dak’s. Hopefully, Jerry cares about signing Micah.

Jerry is dumb enough to extend Dak and continue with a terrible QB.

 

[GINeric]

Dak is the major major problem. McCarthy could not trust dak in the final drive and thus burnt the clock with runs 2 scores down and then thinking because he had run the preceding 10 plays to let dak throw and the interception machine came through. Not McCarthy. Dak is horrible. Everyone blamed Kellen Moore but Kellen is not on the field making rookie mistakes over and over and over again. I will blame McCarthy for molly coddling the offensive line. Every one of them would have been playing. They are making millions and millions and millions of dollars to take a freakin hiatus? And the conditiong on this team? HORRENDOUS. Only game three and we have a mash unit.

You said Dak is an interception machine, yet this is his first interception in 3 games.(and it was a bad on, I must admit) On top of that, other than last year, he hasn't been a interception machine his whole career, so let's cut out the lies to try and make ourselves look like we're speaking truth.

But if Dak is an interception machine with one int, what does that make Josh Allen??

Nevermind, you'll only answer that with a spin job or excuse.

You really loss me when you brought up Kellen Moore. Moore is TRASH. There's a reason he wasn't heavily sought after for his services when he was available.