McCray tendered

[Proximo]

Out of control with negativity? Since when has questioning a decision become negative? There has been many decisions that the Cowboys have made that needs questioning. This is one of them. The resources spent on a special teams player that offers little production on the defense side of the ball, could effect the signing of players that could offer more value. It is a legit concern. Not a negative concern.

The tendering of Danny McCray is absolutely NOT a legitimate concern.

The Cowboys will not make the playoffs this year because they tendered Danny McCray.

And the Cowboys will not miss the playoffs this year because they tendered Danny McCray.

And in case you forgot, the team is implementing an entirely new defensive scheme. Has it occurred to you that perhaps Monte Kiffin has reviewed the tape and has a more suitable role on the defense for him than what Rob Ryan did?

Not only that, this tender is so low you can't seriously believe that this is going to hamper the Cowboys from signing someone else that might be of value. They tendered him for about 1.3 million. Let's say they were somehow able to get him to stay at a real bargain, maybe even half of what they actually tendered him - 650,000. That would only be another 650,000 that the team has to play around with, and that little tiny amount is NOT going to be the difference in signing some other valuable FA. Get real.

 

[erod]

Fact is, McCray is the Bill Bates of this team. Very good special teams captain, leader,.and a pretty good dime package safety.

He was asked to do things he simply can't do last year, which made him look bad.

He's a valuable player though.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Out of control with negativity? Since when has questioning a decision become negative? There has been many decisions that the Cowboys have made that needs questioning. This is one of them. The resources spent on a special teams player that offers little production on the defense side of the ball, could effect the signing of players that could offer more value. It is a legit concern. Not a negative concern.

I'm sorry, but literally every move lately has been subject to a swarm of negativity. The fact that this thread is multiple pages with a bunch of complaining about a 1.3 mil dollar tender is completely and utterly absurd. Yes, this site is out of control, hence the "enough is enough" post lately.

Oh, and not only that, but it is riddled with the "only smarter fans understand" nonsense, which makes for a stifling, uninviting community. And that type of sentiment usually emanates from the type of poster who bashes every move made by the Cowboys.

So, yes, it is getting out of control. Period.

 

[Proximo]

I'm sorry, but literally every move lately has been subject to a swarm of negativity. The fact that this thread is multiple pages with a bunch of complaining about a 1.3 mil dollar tender is completely and utterly absurd. Yes, this site is out of control, hence the "enough is enough" post lately.

Oh, and not only that, but it is riddled with the "only smarter fans understand" nonsense, which makes for a stifling, uninviting community. And that type of sentiment usually emanates from the type of poster who bashes every move made by the Cowboys.

So, yes, it is getting out of control. Period.

Indeed.

I came into this thread and couldn't believe how up in arms people are about a dinky 1.3 million dollar tender on a guy who is our best special teams player and a backup defender. And you are right, the snarky responses from the detractors don't help their case.

 

[DanteEXT]

The tendering of Danny McCray is absolutely NOT a legitimate concern.

The Cowboys will not make the playoffs this year because they tendered Danny McCray.

And the Cowboys will not miss the playoffs this year because they tendered Danny McCray.

And in case you forgot, the team is implementing an entirely new defensive scheme. Has it occurred to you that perhaps Monte Kiffin has reviewed the tape and has a more suitable role on the defense for him than what Rob Ryan did?

Not only that, this tender is so low you can't seriously believe that this is going to hamper the Cowboys from signing someone else that might be of value. They tendered him for about 1.3 million. Let's say they were somehow able to get him to stay at a real bargain, maybe even half of what they actually tendered him - 650,000. That would only be another 650,000 that the team has to play around with, and that little tiny amount is NOT going to be the difference in signing some other valuable FA. Get real.

I get the feeling it's not so much as about the money as that they would prefer the Cowboys replace him with a new player.

 

[jnday]

The tendering of Danny McCray is absolutely NOT a legitimate concern.

The Cowboys will not make the playoffs this year because they tendered Danny McCray.

And the Cowboys will not miss the playoffs this year because they tendered Danny McCray.

And in case you forgot, the team is implementing an entirely new defensive scheme. Has it occurred to you that perhaps Monte Kiffin has reviewed the tape and has a more suitable role on the defense for him than what Rob Ryan did?

Not only that, this tender is so low you can't seriously believe that this is going to hamper the Cowboys from signing someone else that might be of value. They tendered him for about 1.3 million. Let's say they were somehow able to get him to stay at a real bargain, maybe even half of what they actually tendered him - 650,000. That would only be another 650,000 that the team has to play around with, and that little tiny amount is NOT going to be the difference in signing some other valuable FA. Get real.

When you make enough of these McCray decisions, they add up. A couple of more, and it could cost a decent player somewhere down the line. The Cowboys have limited resources. It is best if they make wise use of them.

 

[cowboyvic]

Indeed.

I came into this thread and couldn't believe how up in arms people are about a dinky 1.3 million dollar tender on a guy who is our best special teams player and a backup defender. And you are right, the snarky responses from the detractors don't help their case.

some times the truth hurts. 1 playoff win in going on 17 years, brings out the worst in some of us.

 

[Proximo]

When you make enough of these McCray decisions, they add up. A couple of more, and it could cost a decent player somewhere down the line. The Cowboys have limited resources. It is best if they make wise use of them.

HA This is seriously your response? That's the best you have to justify your ridiculous stance that:

"resources spent on a special teams player that offers little production on the defense side of the ball, could effect the signing of players that could offer more value. It is a legit concern. Not a negative concern."

PLEASE. So let me ask you, if they would've tendered McCray for 500,000 dollars would you be in here complaining and taking the same stance?

 

[erod]

This thread has gotten ridiculous.

That much money for a special teams CAPTAIN is nothing.

He's not a starting safety. We know that. But he plays a lot of important snaps in many roles and is fantastic on special teams.

Is he stopped two punt returns for TDs in a season, he'd be an incredible bargain.

 

[cowboyvic]

HA This is seriously your response? That's the best you have to justify your ridiculous stance that:

"resources spent on a special teams player that offers little production on the defense side of the ball, could effect the signing of players that could offer more value. It is a legit concern. Not a negative concern."

PLEASE. So let me ask you, if they would've tendered McCray for 500,000 dollars would you be in here complaining and taking the same stance?

You are missing his point. his point is these things add up. 1.3 here and 1.5 there and you have almost 3 million dollars being tied up in average players you can pick up off the street. McCray is not a 1.3 million dollar player.

 

[DanteEXT]

If the guy was inactive most games, I can see the issue. To me committing 1.1% of the cap to a guy who is 1.9% of the 53 man roster who is a significant contributor to the team is not a big deal. The minimum salary is like $630,000 or so for a 3rd year player I believe.

 

[cowboyvic]

This thread has gotten ridiculous.

That much money for a special teams CAPTAIN is nothing.

He's not a starting safety. We know that. But he plays a lot of important snaps in many roles and is fantastic on special teams.

Is he stopped two punt returns for TDs in a season, he'd be an incredible bargain.

The point is not that he is not a starting safety,we all know that. the point is he's not even a good back-up as we all saw last year. and i don't think he is that great on special teams either.that unit gave up a 108 yard kickoff return for a TD.the punt united gave up a 94 yard return for a touchdown. and had a blocked punt for a touchdown. they were terrible.McCray did not stand out on special teams like a Bill Bates or a Kenny Gant.

 

[Proximo]

You are missing his point. his point is these things add up. 1.3 here and 1.5 there and you have almost 3 million dollars being tied up in average players you can pick up off the street. McCray is not a 1.3 million dollar player.

OH how convenient so now it's not about Danny McCray, it's about these types of contracts "adding up". So please, name for me all of these players that fit the same mold as Danny McCray that are tying up the Cowboys' salary cap and keeping them from signing players that have "real" value.

 

[Proximo]

The point is not that he is not a starting safety,we all know that. the point is he's not even a good back-up as we all saw last year. and i don't think he is that great on special teams either.that unit gave up a 108 yard kickoff return for a TD.the punt united gave up a 94 yard return for a touchdown. and had a blocked punt for a touchdown. they were terrible.McCray did not stand out on special teams like a Bill Bates or a Kenny Gant.

I'm pretty sure on the year as a whole the Cowboys had one of the better coverage units in the league.

 

[Proximo]

If the guy was inactive most games, I can see the issue. To me committing 1.1% of the cap to a guy who is 1.9% of the 53 man roster who is a significant contributor to the team is not a big deal. The minimum salary is like $630,000 or so for a 3rd year player I believe.

This is a very logical way to look at it.

 

[jnday]

I'm sorry, but literally every move lately has been subject to a swarm of negativity. The fact that this thread is multiple pages with a bunch of complaining about a 1.3 mil dollar tender is completely and utterly absurd. Yes, this site is out of control, hence the "enough is enough" post lately.

Oh, and not only that, but it is riddled with the "only smarter fans understand" nonsense, which makes for a stifling, uninviting community. And that type of sentiment usually emanates from the type of poster who bashes every move made by the Cowboys.

So, yes, it is getting out of control. Period.

From the sound of things, "out of control" has more to do with posters not agreeing with your opinion on these moves ,and with the current state of the team, there are more posters questioning and opposing the direction of the team then in times past. From the other point of view, some posters are happy to express their point of view that differs from the Cowboys and your POV. With back-to-back 8-8 records, there are certainly positive and negative views that have merit.

 

[xwalker]

His salary is not guaranteed!

They can cut him in training camp with no cap hit.

 

[cowboyvic]

OH how convenient so now it's not about Danny McCray, it's about these types of contracts "adding up". So please, name for me all of these players that fit the same mold as Danny McCray that tying up the Cowboys' salary cap and keeping them from signing players that have "real" value?

It's about both. is thats so hard to get? if the Cowboys cut Danny McCray today. it would not make a dime worth difference between winning and losing next year.they need to stop overvaluing average players like this.

 

[Proximo]

From the sound of things, "out of control" has more to do with posters not agreeing with your opinion on these moves ,and with the current state of the team, there are more posters questioning and opposing the direction of the team then in times past. From the other point of view, some posters are happy to express their point of view that differs from the Cowboys and your POV. With back-to-back 8-8 records, there are certainly positive and negative views that have merit.

Taking a strong negative stance against the team tendering 1.3 million dollars to a special teams ace and backup defender does not have merit. It's silly and irrational.

 

[cowboyvic]

From the sound of things, "out of control" has more to do with posters not agreeing with your opinion on these moves ,and with the current state of the team, there are more posters questioning and opposing the direction of the team then in times past. From the other point of view, some posters are happy to express their point of view that differs from the Cowboys and your POV. With back-to-back 8-8 records, there are certainly positive and negative views that have merit.

+1000. Right on the money.