McFadden > Randle

[big dog cowboy]

***STOP WITH THE PERSONAL ATTACKS AND STAY ON TOPIC***

 

[KJJ]

Plus you can just see how weak his blocking is when he takes on the guy in the hole. Its almost like he is afraid.

I already said he has issues in pass protection but he's not the complete liability as you claim.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I already said he has issues in pass protection but he's not the complete liability as you claim.

I already said he has issues in pass protection but he's not the complete liability as you claim.

I already said he has issues in pass protection but he's not the complete liability as you claim.

He is a liability. What does it matter if its complete or not complete? Are you really arguing over the word complete?

 

[conner01]

9 pages of arguments about a question that's already been answered
Seems pretty obvious that randle is going to start and get bulk of carries
Dmac is more effective when healthy and he is more likely to stay healthy if his carries are limited
We haven't seen either enough in pre season to judge either player, but the staff has and that's the depth chart they have in place

 

[superonyx]

This thread has taken a turn to weird and uncomfortable.

 

[Jarv]

Dunbar is a JAG...

Fred Jackson was just cut by the Bills and he still has plenty of mileage left on those legs.

Cut Dunbar, replace with Fred Jackson, move forward......

I like the Jackson for Dunbar move too, but after the 1st game of the season so we don't have to guarantee Jackson's salary, if he is still available at that time.

 

[tyke1doe]

Murray has had several years with missed games. They both had their first full seasons last year. I respect you as a poster, but I think you're rapidly approaching that place where your desire to be right about this issue supercedes your fandom.

Understand that the team has confidence in the ability of the TEAM to be able to run the ball. They view the back as a piece of a successful rushing attack. The OL, TE, WR all play a role. They aren't the only team to buy that approach. Denver and Baltimore both had a lot of success with that approach last season. Denver did it with an elite QB and receivers. Bmore did it with an elite OL. Neither of those teams had backs with any pedigree and Dallas looks like they have more surrounding offensive talent than either when you add in the entire offense.

The other side of the ball is important too. When I knew Murray was gone was when Stephen started talking about a long term desire to more equitably distribute resources to both sides of the ball. They've started that process in full and the results should begin to bear fruit now.

Hey its all good. When game 1 hits, we will all cheer as we always do. However, I have zero confidence in our rbbc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with making that known and if anyone has issues with it then I guess they just have a desire to be "right". Bottom line, the defensive improvements are considered questions that won't be answered until we are well into the season. I worry about Romo and if I'm the only one then that's cool too. Blitz pickup is going to be a roller coaster ride this year.

Two good posts.

 

[KJJ]

He is a liability. What does it matter if its complete or not complete? Are you really arguing over the word complete?

If he's a "complete liability" in pass protection then why was he on the field with Romo the other night? A complete liability is saying he's totally incapable of pass protecting so why would the Cowboys risk Romo if Randle is a "complete liability" in pass protection? Having some issues in pass protection and being a "complete liability" aren't the same. Ryan Williams didn't make the 53 man roster last season because he was a complete liability in pass protection and Jerry pretty much said it during the draft. When explaining why the Cowboys didn't draft a back and talking about their current backs he said they like Williams as a "runner" but until he shows he can pass protect he won't be on the field with Romo. The Cowboys aren't going to risk losing Romo for the season especially in a preseason game with a back who's a "complete liability" in pass protection.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If he's a "complete liability" in pass protection then why was he on the field with Romo the other night? A complete liability is saying he's totally incapable of pass protecting so why would the Cowboys risk Romo if Randle is a "complete liability" in pass protection? Having some issues in pass protection and being a "complete liability" aren't the same. Ryan Williams didn't make the 53 man roster last season because he was a complete liability in pass protection and Jerry pretty much said it during the draft. When explaining why the Cowboys didn't draft a back and talking about their current backs he said they like Williams as a "runner" but until he shows he can pass protect he won't be on the field with Romo. The Cowboys aren't going to risk losing Romo for the season especially in a preseason game with a back who's a "complete liability" in pass protection.

so you ARE arguing over the word "complete".

sorry, I have no interest in arguing with you over the word "complete".

 

[KJJ]

so you ARE arguing over the word "complete".

sorry, I have no interest in arguing with you over the word "complete".

You obviously don't know what the word "complete" means I suggest you look it up. You have no interest arguing because you can't explain why Randle was on the field with Romo during a preseason game when you're claiming that he's a "complete liability" in pass protection. No team is going to risk their franchise QB in a preseason game with a back who's a "complete liability" in pass protection.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You obviously don't know what the word "complete" means I suggest you look it up. You have no interest arguing because you can't explain why Randle was on the field with Romo during a preseason game when you're claiming that he's a "complete liability" in pass protection. No team is going to risk their franchise QB in a preseason game with a back who's a "complete liability" in pass protection.

Complete liability would literally have to mean EVERY single block he COMPLETELY whiffs on. But you are the only joker that actually took my statement to mean it that literally. You obviously have some kind of argumentative disorder or something. If you continue to follow me around the board like this, I will just put you on ignore and call it a day.

 

[Bleu Star]

I like the Jackson for Dunbar move too, but after the 1st game of the season so we don't have to guarantee Jackson's salary, if he is still available at that time.

Too late. Seahags on it. That's what winners do.

 

[CATCH17]

Too late. Seahags on it. That's what winners do.

I think the situation is different.

They are signing Jackson to get them through a small stretch of games if Lynch gets hurt.


You guys want him to come here and be a 15-20 carry a game guy. There isn't a spot for that type of player at this point and even if there was I wouldn't want a 34 year old RB to be that guy.

 

[KJJ]

Complete liability would literally have to mean EVERY single block he COMPLETELY whiffs on. But you are the only joker that actually took my statement to mean it that literally. You obviously have some kind of argumentative disorder or something. If you continue to follow me around the board like this, I will just put you on ignore and call it a day.

You've called Randle a complete liability in pass protection several times now you're trying to backtrack. LOL A back doesn't have to miss every single block to be a complete liability in pass protection. I haven't been following you around you've been initiating these discussions. This will be the last discussion/exchange we'll ever have because you're incapable of keeping disagreements civil and it will eventually lead to trouble for both of us.

 

[Bleu Star]

I think the situation is different.

They are signing Jackson to get them through a small stretch of games if Lynch gets hurt.


You guys want him to come here and be a 15-20 carry a game guy. There isn't a spot for that type of player at this point and even if there was I wouldn't want a 34 year old RB to be that guy.

Now you're nitpicking Catch. That doesn't apply here. I simply want to replace a JAG with a proven leader that has plenty left on the tires. The rest is gravy that the coaches are paid to work out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You've called Randle a complete liability in pass protection several times now you're trying to backtrack. LOL A back doesn't have to miss every single block to be a complete liability in pass protection. I haven't been following you around you've been initiating these discussions. This will be the last discussion/exchange we'll ever have because you're incapable of keeping disagreements civil and it will eventually lead to trouble for both of us.

That is ok, I'm going to put you on ignore anyway. Im taking the high road on this one. You seem to be interested in nothing but arguing no matter what. I dont need little trolls following me around the board from thread to thread.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Too late. Seahags on it. That's what winners do.

I have to agree. Why get stubborn and have to prove you are right with these three backs. If a good option presents itself you should take it gladly. If they really think any of these backs are better than Jackson, they are kidding themselves.

 

[Nightman]

Now you're nitpicking Catch. That doesn't apply here. I simply want to replace a JAG with a proven leader that has plenty left on the tires. The rest is gravy that the coaches are paid to work out.

Randle and DMC can provide what Dunbar brings.

I would rather add a thumper type to the RBBC.

 

[CATCH17]

Now you're nitpicking Catch. That doesn't apply here. I simply want to replace a JAG with a proven leader that has plenty left on the tires. The rest is gravy that the coaches are paid to work out.

I can't imagine any 34 year old back getting a team through a season.

I may be wrong but I just don't see him as a week in week out RB.

 

[Jstopper]

Too late. Seahags on it. That's what winners do.

Jeez have you always been so negative bro?