McFadden vs Morris

CalPolyTechnique said:
Miss Spoken,

Look again....Cassel/Weeden/Moore combined for 15 INTs.

Beyond turnover totals. When you look at their passing numbers, they were completely inept at throwing the ball and moving the offense efficiently
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That was still fewer turnovers than the Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller trio who coughed it up 18 times in 2010....NEXT! :thumbup:
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
Miss Spoken,

I'm sorry to inform you that you played yourself again.

"Dude, I pointed out the "combination" of Cassel and Weeden were better than the combination of Campbell and Gradkowski and you keep avoiding it because it doesn't fit with your agenda."

Irony and hypocrisy...the hallmarks of message board punching bags.
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You asked if I wanted to add Kellen Moore's numbers and I did. :thumbup: By the way shouldn't you be in school or are you playing hooky again?
 
KJJ said:
That was still fewer turnovers than the Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller trio who coughed it up 18 times in 2010....NEXT! :thumbup:
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Miss Spoken,

You "misspoke" again. Or, add math to the list of things you can't do.

Let me walk you through this dim one... 1 + 15 = 16! (not 18).

And seriously, are you that dense to try to add Boller now to the list when I can simply add Romo's numbers too, lol?

16 TDs and 22 INTs

 
Bullet22 said:
They didn't need to draft a rb that early...but they did.....doesn't think it had to do anything with DMC....He was great in college...but what do we really have...maybe he get's to play tonight...
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McFadden was great in college and that was 9 years ago. He's not that same back he was then but some of you are still stuck in a time warp from 2007 at Arkansas. We needed to draft a back early to try and help keep Romo healthy and to try and keep our defense which has been a liability off the field. We needed a playmaker that puts fear in defenses and who can put TD's on the board.
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
Miss Spoken,

You "misspoke" again. Or, add math to the list of things you can't do.

Let me walk you through this dim one... 1 + 15 = 16! (not 18).

And seriously, are you that dense to try to add Boller now to the list when I can simply add Romo's numbers too, lol?

16 TDs and 22 INTs
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You're the dim one I'm talking "turnovers" as in int's AND lost fumbles. Still can't comprehend? The Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller trio combined for 18 turnovers in 2010...Chew on that! :thumbup:
 
KJJ said:
When Jamal Lewis rushed for 2066 yards in 2003 he had Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright as his QBs. Boller's passer rating was 62.4 and Wright's was 72.3. Let CalPoly chew on that!
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That's right. So many examples where running backs produced without great QB play. Jim Brown, Walter Payton the list goes on.

My whole point in this is that McFadden isn't special, calpoly talks about QB play....which has been proven false.....even WRs like Andre Johnson produced with no QB. Great or special players produced, not sure why some on this board makes Mcfadden out to be better then he is. Murray had over 900 yards without being touched.....Mcfadden created less then 200 after contact.

Not only that but Mcfadden was 4th in rushing in a down year for running.....most seasons he wouldn't be top 10 and his 3 TDs is closer to three bottom of the league. Randle had 4 TDs with the same team but half the games. Dez had 3 TDs missing most of the season from injury. You win by scoring not yards and McFadden didn't help us win games by getting 1,000 yards.

Romo won first two games passing the ball
Romo won Miami....by passing the ball
Cassell won 4th win by Bailey FGs
 
KJJ said:
You're the dim one I'm talking "turnovers" as in int's AND lost fumbles. Still can't comprehend? The Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller trio combined for 18 turnovers in 2010...Chew on that! :thumbup:
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Is this effectively your way of pulling the sheets over your head on a message board?

Scared to read the post? "No, no, nooooo, the information doesn't exist!"

22 INTs

What are you not computing?
 
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I keep McFadden and Morris because I don't trust Zeke. Too many Big 10 RB's fail at the next level. I hope I'm wrong, but he has proven nothing at this level yet.

And had McFadden been with a better team, his career stats would drawf Morris'.
 
DMAC said:
I keep McFadden and Morris because I don't trust Zeke. Too many Big 10 RB's fail at the next level. I hope I'm wrong, but he has proven nothing at this level yet.

And had McFadden been with a better team, his career stats would drawf Morris'.
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Hard to have career stats when your injuried all the time.

Morris has averaged 1100 yards 7.5 TDs a season
McFadden has averaged 667 yards 3.5 TDs a season

Morris played on Washington.....the same can be said had he played on a better team his stats would be better.

Mcfadden played with the best OL in the game and still didn't hit Morris average
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
Is this effectively your way of pulling the sheets over your head on a message board?

Scared to read the post? "No, no, nooooo, the information doesn't exist!"

22 INTs

What are you not computing?
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I posted the "turnover" totals INT's and lost fumbles but that still hasn't become clear to you. A warning was posted in this thread read it and move on!
 
KJJ said:
I posted the "turnover" totals INT's and lost fumbles but that still hasn't become clear to you. A warning was posted in this thread read it and move on!
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Great!!! Aaaaand your point is what?

WHO TURNED THE BALL OVER MORE?

Boller, Campbell, Gradkowski combined for a grand total of 2 lost fumbles. And the Cowboys QBs lost 2 in 2015 as well.

Answer the question and stop ducking.

Don't conveniently hide because of the warning. No insults needed. Don't run.
 
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CalPolyTechnique said:
Great!!! Aaaaand your point is what?

WHO TURNED THE BALL OVER MORE?

Boller, Campbell, Gradkowski combined for a grand total of 2 lost fumbles. And the Cowboys QBs lost 2 in 2015 as well.

Answer the question and stop ducking.

Don't conveniently hide because of the warning. No insults needed. Don't run.
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You think I'm ducking??? Lol You're going to have a tougher time getting anyone to agree with that than you've had getting anyone to agree with anything you've been spewing the past few days. I don't need to duck you keep swinging and missing. I haven't seen anyone agree with you in this thread. To give you an idea of just how out of bounds you are not even my haters who look for every opportunity to attack me are jumping in to support you because even they know you're dead wrong. :laugh: You're acting like McFadden had a solid QB situation in Oakland in 2010 when he clearly didn't. His QB situation at best was no better than ours once Romo went down. The fact that he had Romo for two full games and part of two other games made his QB situation last season better than it was in Oakland in 2010. You mentioned he didn't have Dez all season but I already pointed out he never had a receiver close to the caliber of Dez in Oakland. He never had a receiver close to the caliber of Jason Witten and he had Witten all last season. I would take Twill over any of the receivers he had in Oakland in 2010.

For an RB to be successful the most important component is the players they have upfront blocking for them and McFadden had the #1 run blocking OL in the entire league last year that featured 3 Pro Bowl players. His OL in Oakland in 2010 wasn't near as talented as what he was running behind last season. You keep saying what hurt McFadden was not having Romo but it's already been proven with several examples that talented backs produce yards and TD's regardless of their QB situation. Keep bringing it and I'll keep shooting everything down. If you're going to come to battle bring some real artillery, not a pop gun.
 
Irvin88_4life said:
Mcfadden played with the best OL in the game and still didn't hit Morris average
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Its a complete joke to quote McFadden's stats in Oakland and say he was playing with the best OL in the game.

The Dallas OL clearly made him better, but he averaged 87 yards per game. That works out to 1400 yards for the season if he had started every game.
 
Kaiser said:
Its a complete joke to quote McFadden's stats in Oakland and say he was playing with the best OL in the game.

The Dallas OL clearly made him better, but he averaged 87 yards per game. That works out to 1400 yards for the season if he had started every game.
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Never said Oakland had the best OL in the league.....way to comprehend.

That's the thing he didn't start the other games and he had 8 games last year that was under 4 yards a carry. He could have gotten hurt playing more games just as easy as ran for 1400. It's speculating but here is some facts, even playing 16 games he has never had 1200 or more yards in a season.....is he gonna become AP after 8 years in the league.....no he isn't
 
Kaiser said:
I comprehend fine. You might want to reread your post.
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I said Mcfadden played with the best OL and still didn't hit Morris average.........where does that say Oakland. Perhaps you might want to reread before posting
 
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