McFadden vs Morris

[Irvin88_4life]

They will keep them both...

They won't keep both......been said numerous times Zeke, Morris and McFadden don't play special teams. We aren't keeping 3 guys that don't play special teams.

Zeke.....4th overall not going anywhere
Morris...fits our team perfect and just signed plus looks great so far

Dunbar....biggest threat catching the ball plus can return kicks

Jackson....young guy with tons of potential, has flashed at times with great vision in preseason. Can play special teams

Mcfadden....ageing vet that doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme we run. Had to change blocking last year for him to produce. Currently injuried and hasn't practice all offseason, past his prime


Now you tell me which running back doesn't make the team

 

[Bullet22]

They won't keep both......been said numerous times Zeke, Morris and McFadden don't play special teams. We aren't keeping 3 guys that don't play special teams.

Zeke.....4th overall not going anywhere
Morris...fits our team perfect and just signed plus looks great so far

Dunbar....biggest threat catching the ball plus can return kicks

Jackson....young guy with tons of potential, has flashed at times with great vision in preseason. Can play special teams

Mcfadden....ageing vet that doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme we run. Had to change blocking last year for him to produce. Currently injuried and hasn't practice all offseason, past his prime


Now you tell me which running back doesn't make the team

Both....He has had about as much work as Zeke...zero hits and games action...Guess we will find out in 2 weeks...

 

[wileedog]

They won't keep both......been said numerous times Zeke, Morris and McFadden don't play special teams. We aren't keeping 3 guys that don't play special teams.

Zeke.....4th overall not going anywhere
Morris...fits our team perfect and just signed plus looks great so far

Dunbar....biggest threat catching the ball plus can return kicks

Jackson....young guy with tons of potential, has flashed at times with great vision in preseason. Can play special teams

Mcfadden....ageing vet that doesn't fit the zone blocking scheme we run. Had to change blocking last year for him to produce. Currently injuried and hasn't practice all offseason, past his prime


Now you tell me which running back doesn't make the team

I have nothing against McFadden and was on board with the signing before the season last year. But I really don't see any other way this works out.

They didn't sign Morris because they thought McFadden was a perfect fit. They obviously didn't like the fact that he didn't run well with zone blocking and found someone who does.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Both....He has had about as much work as Zeke...zero hits and games action...Guess we will find out in 2 weeks...

Both? You mean Mcfadden and Zeke? Mcfadden hasn't practice.....none at all. Zeke has practiced and gonna play tomorrow, which is what we need players that can play

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I have nothing against McFadden and was on board with the signing before the season last year. But I really don't see any other way this works out.

They didn't sign Morris because they thought McFadden was a perfect fit. They obviously didn't like the fact that he didn't run well with zone blocking and found someone who does.

I agree. I have nothing against Mcfadden but we have upgraded and is the odd man out. Can't keep 5 running backs unless 1 is a full back and even then that's tough to carry with holes on defense and injuries

 

[KJJ]

You absolutely did change your post, lol. You're more interested in trying to appear right than being intellectually honest, but that's par for the course for you.

If I changed my post AFTER reading your post it can easily be proven because you have my original quote. First off I have no edits in any of my posts today and you only have 5 minutes to change a post before an edit appears. By the time someone replies to my posts and I see the alert a lot more than 5 minutes has gone by. After 5 minutes an edit appears and after 20 minutes a post can no longer be edited. Explain exactly what I changed in my post? You've "quoted" me in every exchange we've had so if I changed my post to try and play games all you or anyone else has to do is click my "quote" and it will take everyone to my post. All you have to do is compare my "quote" with my post and see if any changes have been made. If someone "quotes" a post that quote will never change regardless if someone goes back and edits their post.

 

[KJJ]

Lol, smh.

You can't seriously be this dense?

The point is the QB play from Ponder and Campbell's were infinitely better compartively than what Matt Cassel did last year.

You're the only Cowboy fan that seems to think Matt Cassel played like an All Pro last year.

The only one who's dense is you. Adrain Peterson put up almost 1400 yards rushing as a rookie with Tavaris Jackson at QB. Chew on that! Jackson only tossed 9 TD's in 07 compared to 13 int's and had a passer rating of 70.8 but that didn't stop Peterson from producing almost 1400 yards and 12 rushing TD's. No matter how bad Minn QB situation was Peterson produced because he's a great back. Did Eric Dickerson ever have a a great QB situation? How about Earl Campbell? Cassel was arguably worse than Weeden last season but despite it McFadden had his most productive game of the year with him at QB. You keep blaming our QBs but the most productive game McFadden had and the best rushing averages he had last season was with Cassel and Kellen Moore. Everything you come up with is getting shot full of holes.

 

[Bullet22]

The only one who's dense is you. Adrain Peterson put up almost 1400 yards rushing as a rookie with Tavaris Jackson at QB. Chew on that! Jackson only tossed 9 TD's in 07 compared to 13 int's and had a passer rating of 70.8 but that didn't stop Peterson from producing almost 1400 yards and 12 rushing TD's. No matter how bad Minn QB situation was Peterson produced because he's a great back. Did Eric Dickerson ever have a a great QB situation? How about Earl Campbell? Cassel was arguably worse than Weeden last season but despite it McFadden had his most productive game of the year with him at QB. You keep blaming our QBs but the most productive game McFadden had and the best rushing averages he had last season was with Cassel and Kellen Moore. Everything you come up with is getting shot full of holes.

Last season, was the best line that DMC ran behind.. If he had started the whole season, he could have had 1600 yds. without Romo and Dez... It is not fair comparing DMC with Hof backs...I can't see the boys cutting him, and going with Jackson.....He has been a nice surprise.. practice squad is where I see him...if you can get him there...

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Last season, was the best line that DMC ran behind.. If he had started the whole season, he could have had 1600 yds. without Romo and Dez... It is not fair comparing DMC with Hof backs...I can't see the boys cutting him, and going with Jackson.....He has been a nice surprise.. practice squad is where I see him...if you can get him there...

You don't know if he would have had 1600 yards, he might have gotten injuried just as easy. That's speculation

 

[KJJ]

Last season, was the best line that DMC ran behind.. If he had started the whole season, he could have had 1600 yds. without Romo and Dez... It is not fair comparing DMC with Hof backs...I can't see the boys cutting him, and going with Jackson.....He has been a nice surprise.. practice squad is where I see him...if you can get him there...

To say McFadden could have had 500 more rushing yards had he started the season is going way overboard. He received 10 carries vs Philly in week 2 and managed only 31 yards. A couple of weeks later he received another 10 carries vs NO and only managed another 31 yards. When he became the starter he followed up some of his best rushing performances with poor rushing performances. He was too inconsistent to come up with 1600 yards.

 

[Sarek]

When McFadden was in College I was a big fan & I don't know shizzel about Morris. Morris seems to have desire to get it done and the ability to follow through in preseason so far. McFadden seems like it's over and done with as far as speed goes last season. There's a chance I am wrong but id like to see that I'm wrong not read it you know what I mean?....Please don't tell me McFadden would be better with Romo healthy, since I am new ill have to overlook it and make pretend it didn't happen.

 

[Bullet22]

To say McFadden could have had 500 more rushing yards had he started the season is going way overboard. He received 10 carries vs Philly in week 2 and managed only 31 yards. A couple of weeks later he received another 10 carries vs NO and only managed another 31 yards. When he became the starter he followed up some of his best rushing performances with poor rushing performances. He was too inconsistent to come up with 1600 yards.

In a backup role....It seems to be ok for you to guess....or speculate....of course DMC would have been better with Romo and Dez....that keeps 8 to 9 men out of the box..and the defense would have to respect the pass and be aware of Dez...your argument doesn't hold water..

 

[KJJ]

In a backup role....It seems to be ok for you to guess....or speculate....of course DMC would have been better with Romo and Dez....that keeps 8 to 9 men out of the box..and the defense would have to respect the pass and be aware of Dez...your argument doesn't hold water..

The bottom line is if the Cowboys felt McFadden would have been any better with Romo and Dez for a full season and was the answer at lead RB they wouldn't have used the 4th overall pick on an RB. They were looking for someone special, a game changer that would compliment our OL. My argument holds more water than Hoover Dam and if it didn't the team wouldn't have made the moves they did at RB.

 

[Bullet22]

The bottom line is if the Cowboys felt McFadden would have been any better with Romo and Dez for a full season and was the answer at lead RB they wouldn't have used the 4th overall pick on an RB. They were looking for someone special, a game changer that would compliment our OL. My argument holds more water than Hoover Dam and if it didn't the team wouldn't have made the moves they did at RB.

They didn't need to draft a rb that early...but they did.....doesn't think it had to do anything with DMC....He was great in college...but what do we really have...maybe he get's to play tonight...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The only one who's dense is you. Adrain Peterson put up almost 1400 yards rushing as a rookie with Tavaris Jackson at QB. Chew on that! Jackson only tossed 9 TD's in 07 compared to 13 int's and had a passer rating of 70.8 but that didn't stop Peterson from producing almost 1400 yards and 12 rushing TD's. No matter how bad Minn QB situation was Peterson produced because he's a great back. Did Eric Dickerson ever have a a great QB situation? How about Earl Campbell? Cassel was arguably worse than Weeden last season but despite it McFadden had his most productive game of the year with him at QB. You keep blaming our QBs but the most productive game McFadden had and the best rushing averages he had last season was with Cassel and Kellen Moore. Everything you come up with is getting shot full of holes.

Hey Miss Spoken,

You spoke out your arse again about Ponder (which you brought up), so now you're talking about Tavaris Jackson and trying to parse McFadden's performances to single game averages, lol.

You still haven't even addressed your claim about Jason Campbell and Matt Cassell. Instead you tucked tail (as you do) and scurried off.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If I changed my post AFTER reading your post it can easily be proven because you have my original quote. First off I have no edits in any of my posts today and you only have 5 minutes to change a post before an edit appears. By the time someone replies to my posts and I see the alert a lot more than 5 minutes has gone by. After 5 minutes an edit appears and after 20 minutes a post can no longer be edited. Explain exactly what I changed in my post? You've "quoted" me in every exchange we've had so if I changed my post to try and play games all you or anyone else has to do is click my "quote" and it will take everyone to my post. All you have to do is compare my "quote" with my post and see if any changes have been made. If someone "quotes" a post that quote will never change regardless if someone goes back and edits their post.

Dear Miss Spoken,

You changed your post after you "misspoke" again. Man up. Own it.

 

[KJJ]

Dear Miss Spoken,

You changed your post after you "misspoke" again. Man up. Own it.

I have you so figured out that I said a couple of days ago you're becoming so desperate that you'll start tossing up BS before long and here you go. Lol Your credibility along with your ability to formulate a rational thought has taken a big hit with this claim because you're saying that I read a response from you and quickly went back and changed my post in which you "quoted" me to make myself look right and was able to do it within 5 minutes so my post wouldn't show an edit. Lol Are you able to grasp all of that? Unfortunately Mr Irrational your claim has a HUGE hole because had I done what you're claiming you could EASILY prove it by comparing my "quote" with my original post and everyone would see where I changed it. Dude, you've QUOTED me in EVERY exchange we've had and "quotes" can't be changed, so if I made a change to a post in which you've quoted it can be PROVEN. You've just busted yourself as a fool so Man up. Own it.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I have you so figured out that I said a couple of days ago you're becoming so desperate that you'll start tossing up BS before long and here you go. Lol Your credibility along with your ability to formulate a rational thought has taken a big hit with this claim because you're saying that I read a response from you and quickly went back and changed my post in which you "quoted" me to make myself look right and was able to do it within 5 minutes so my post wouldn't show an edit. Lol Are you able to grasp all of that? Unfortunately Mr Irrational your claim has a HUGE hole because had I done what you're claiming you could EASILY prove it by comparing my "quote" with my original post and everyone would see where I changed it. Dude, you've QUOTED me in EVERY exchange we've had and "quotes" can't be changed, so if I made a change to a post in which you've quoted it can be PROVEN. You've just busted yourself as a fool so Man up. Own it.

Miss Spoken,

Wait, wait, wait....

Are you telling me now you've abandoned your original (bunk) "he had worse QB play with the Raiders than in Dallas" theory and in complete self-contradiction are now claiming he had better QB play in Dallas w/Cassel and Co.?

That my friends is textbook playin' yourself.

 

[KJJ]

Hey Miss Spoken,

You spoke out your arse again about Ponder (which you brought up), so now you're talking about Tavaris Jackson and trying to parse McFadden's performances to single game averages, lol.

You still haven't even addressed your claim about Jason Campbell and Matt Cassell. Instead you tucked tail (as you do) and scurried off.

The only one speaking out their arse is you and you've been doing it throughout this discussion. I've addressed EVERYTHING and have repeated a lot of it. None of those QBs I've mentioned are any good or were any good. They've all bounced around the league and Jason Campbell is out of the league. In 2010 in Oakland, Campbell completed less than 60% of his passes and had 9 turnovers and only 13 TD's in his 12 starts. Gradkowski who you continue to leave out because he SUCKED in 2010 completed only 53% of his passes and only tossed 5 TD's compared to 8 turnovers in his 4 starts in 2010. You've left out Gradkowski and Weeden's numbers because it blows everything you're saying apart.

Campbell and Gradkowski are the QBs McFadden had when he produced 1157 yards and 10 TD's in 14 games. You made a big deal about McFadden not having an elite receiver in Dez for several games but in Oakland in 2010 he had virtually nothing at WR. Dude, he didn't have near the OL in Oakland that he ran behind last season but he was a better player 6 years ago with great speed. He's not the player he was back then and you could clearly see it on several plays last season. As for Adrian Peterson you could put any QB in the lineup and it won't stop him from producing and the CRAP QBs he's played with are proof of it. Teams are geared to stop him every week and he still produces.

 

[KJJ]

Miss Spoken,

Wait, wait, wait....

Are you telling me now you've abandoned your original (bunk) "he had worse QB play with the Raiders than in Dallas" theory and in complete self-contradiction are now claiming he had better QB play in Dallas w/Cassel and Co.?

That my friends is textbook playin' yourself.

McFadden was stuck in a worse QB situation in Oakland in 2010 and he didn't have an elite receiver or the OL he played behind last season and still produced. Now go prove I changed my post. Good luck!