McFadden vs Morris

[CalPolyTechnique]

You're back to the same crap that got your last account deleted. You're lucky I don't run things here because those of you who get the boot and return wouldn't last more than a couple of days. Dude, you have an agenda you're comparing Campbell from 2010 and Cassel from last season but leaving out Weeden's numbers in his 3 starts and Gradkowski's numbers in his 4 starts from 2010. McFadden played with Romo in 4 games and only averaged over 4.0 a carry in one game. In Weeden's best game last season McFadden averaged 3.1 a carry which put the game on Weeden's shoulders. Everything you've posted has been shot down like a bunch of sitting ducks so stop wasting my time....yawn!

Lol, you wanna ban me for having your card pulled for making bunk claims? How rich.

Hey genius. If you're claiming that McFadden had worse QB play in Oakland in 2010 compared to what he got in Dallas in 2015, ANYONE WITH A BRAIN is going to look at the QB from each team he played the majority of the time. Why? Because it gives you the best indicator of the level of QB play he typically played with during that season.

I gave you those numbers.

You continue to run around with your tail tucked trying to ignore it.

Here they are again:

Jason Campbell
329/194 (att/comp.)
59% completion pct.
13 TDs/8 INTs
84.5 QB rating
183 Passing YPG
7-5 (W/L record as starting QB)

Matt Cassel
204/119 (att/comp.)
58.3% completion pct.
5 TDs/7 INTs
70.6 QB rating
141 Passing YPG
1-6 (W/L record as starting QB)

Your claim is further undermined by the fact he played with the better QB in Campbell and benefited from that play for 12 games in Oakland (2010).

 

[KJJ]

Hey genius. If you're claiming that McFadden had worse QB in Oakland in 2010 compared to what he got in Dallas in 2015, ANYONE WITH A BRAIN is going to look at the QB from each team he played the majority of the time. Why? Because it gives you the best indicator of the QB play he typically played with.

I gave you those numbers.

You continue to run around with your tail tucked trying to ignore it.

Here they are again:

Jason Campbell
329/194 (att/comp.)
59% completion pct.
13 TDs/8 INTs
84.5 QB rating
183 Passing YPG
7-5 (W/L record as starting QB)

Matt Cassel
204/119 (att/comp.)
58.3% completion pct.
5 TDs/7 INTs
70.6 QB rating
141 Passing YPG
1-6 (W/L record as starting QB)

McFadden had a worse QB situation with the Raiders in 2010, he never played one down with a Tony Romo. He was stuck all season with Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski. I would take Brandon Weeden and Matt Cassel over those two. Campbell has been out of the league since 2014. You mentioned McFadden didn't have Dez in games last season as one of your excuses but he never had a Dez Bryant in any game in 2010 in Oakland unless you consider Hayward-Bey and Zach Miller on par with Dez Bryant? The 2010 Raiders didn't have the QBs, WR's or OL the Cowboys had last season but that didn't stop McFadden from producing yards and TD's in only 14 games with Oakland. Tearing you down has become too easy!

 

[KJJ]

Lol, you wanna ban me for having your card pulled for making bunk claims?

Someone else wanted you banned who has more say than I ever will here which is why your account was deleted. Most who get their accounts terminated learn their lesson and make sure to not repeat the same mistakes. You're on the fast track out of here again.

 

[KJJ]

Hey genius.

I'm a lot smarter than you, didn't take me long to figure you out did it? As for the bunk claims comment in your other post, I don't make bunk claims I post facts and give opinions.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

McFadden had a worse QB situation with the Raiders in 2010, he never played one down with a Tony Romo. He was stuck all season with Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski. I would take Brandon Weeden and Matt Cassel over those two. Campbell has been out of the league since 2014. You mentioned McFadden didn't have Dez in games last season as one of your excuses but he never had a Dez Bryant in any game in 2010 in Oakland unless you consider Hayward-Bey and Zach Miller on par with Dez Bryant? The 2010 Raiders didn't have the QBs, WR's or OL the Cowboys had last season but that didn't stop McFadden from producing yards and TD's in only 14 games with Oakland. Tearing you down has become too easy!

So what you're really saying is "okay, okay...never mind what the numbers clearly indicate, I'm still gonna claim Matt Cassel and Co. were better."

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Someone else wanted you banned who has more say than I ever will here which is why your account was deleted. Most who get their accounts terminated learn their lesson and make sure to not repeat the same mistakes. You're on the fast track out of here again.

What do you keep blathering about? Come out and say whomever you think I am. As if any of what you're claiming has anything to do with you being unable to substantiate your claims.

Nice diversion. You're completely unhinged.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

What are you talking about? He did beat out Randle. Randle didn't go off he rails until he started losing carries to McFadden.

If McFadden had been given the job out of camp - which he obviously should have been, not his fault the coaches wanted to try and make Randle something he wasn't - McFadden would have had a slightly worse season than Murray statistically. He averaged 4.6 YPC to Murray's 4.7, and that with everyone on the defense in the box because no one cared about Weeden/Cassel/Moore. TDs obviously were way off but again I think that is a factor of having no passing game to speak of.

I really don't get how the 4th leading rusher in the league last year who only started 10 games is somehow a nightmare to some folks, yet marching Church/Carr/Mo out there every game is A-OK. And I say this as someone who very much wants Morris to replace him.

So your saying Randle didn't steal underwear or gave any problems until Mcfadden took over? Do you even pay attention to these players

 

[KJJ]

he level of QB play he typically played with during that season.

I gave you those numbers.

You continue to run around with your tail tucked trying to ignore it.

Those numbers you gave don't mean crap because you continue to leave out Weeden's numbers as the starter last season and Gradkowski's numbers in the 4 games he started in 2010. You're ignoring the fact that McFadden had Romo for 2 full games last season and parts of 2 other games. You're claiming our QB situation hurt McFadden when the facts are his best rushing averages last season came with Cassel and Kellen Moore at QB. Chew on that!

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Having bad QB play is no excuse, AP produces, Gurley produces....list goes on

 

[KJJ]

So what you're really saying is "okay, okay...never mind what the numbers clearly indicate, I'm still gonna claim Matt Cassel and Co. were better."

You can claim whatever you want, you have an agenda and are trying to find anything you can to fit it. If the Cowboys saw things your way they would have stayed with McFadden as the starter and used the 4th overall pick on another position.

 

[KJJ]

You're completely unhinged.

You're the one who's unhinged blaming our QB situation for why McFadden wasn't better. Did Barry Sanders QB situation hurt his production? Did being stuck with Christian Ponder in 2011 keep Adrian Peterson from rushing for almost 2100 yards? Chew on that!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Those numbers you gave don't mean crap because you continue to leave out Weeden's numbers as the starter last season and Gradkowski's numbers in the 4 games he started in 2010. You're ignoring the fact that McFadden had Romo for 2 full games last season and parts of 2 other games.

Let's see if I can walk you through this again simple one....

Jason Campbell started 12 games (played in 13 games) in 2010. That means (c'mon, let's do the math) he was the QB for the Raiders 75% of the season in 2010 w/McFadden at RB. Which means.......that's riiiight, he's the QB you should be looking at [pat on your head].

You're claiming our QB situation hurt McFadden when the facts are his best rushing averages last season came with Cassel and Kellen Moore at QB. Chew on that!

Lol, smh.

Really? I guess I assumed too much thinking you could read.

In 2010, McFadden ran for 1,157 yards with a 5.2 YPC. What rushing "averages" under Cassel & Co. were better than those numbers?

Ah, nevermind...you "misspoke" again.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You're the one who's unhinged blaming our QB situation for why McFadden wasn't better. Did Barry Sanders QB situation hurt his production? Did being stuck with Christian Ponder in 2011 keep Adrian Peterson from rushing for almost 2100 yards? Chew on that!

Gurley last year as well

 

[KJJ]

Gurley last year as well

The list is endless of RBs who've produced without having a solid starting NFL QB.

 

[KJJ]

Let's see if I can walk you through this again simple one....

Jason Campbell started 12 games (played in 13 games) in 2010. That means (c'mon, let's do the math) he was the QB for the Raiders 75% of the season in 2010 w/McFadden at RB. Which means.......that's riiiight, he's the QB you should be looking at [pat on your head].



Lol, smh.

Really? I guess I assumed too much thinking you could read.

In 2010, McFadden ran for 1,157 yards with a 5.2 YPC. What rushing "averages" under Cassel & Co. were better than those numbers?

Ah, nevermind...you "misspoke" again.

You're just wasting time, if everything you're saying about our QB and WR situation affecting McFadden's production then why did the Cowboys use the 4th overall pick on an RB?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The list is endless of RBs who've produced without having a solid starting NFL QB.

I have posted stats and games for McFadden in 2010 and last season and he got most his yards in a couple games. The rest were terrible, not only that he doesn't break tackles and most important can't score TDS. No excuse for only 3 TDs on the year with our OL when Randle scored 3 in one game last year

 

[drawandstrike]

What the hell are we even arguing about in this thread? I'm pretty sure we're keeping Morris AND McFadden to go with Elliot.

Romo's gonna have a lot of fun handing the ball off this year.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

What the hell are we even arguing about in this thread? I'm pretty sure we're keeping Morris AND McFadden to go with Elliot.

Romo's gonna have a lot of fun handing the ball off this year.

McFadden is odd man out. He won't make the 53 starting lineup

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You're just wasting time, if everything you're saying about our QB and WR situation affecting McFadden's production then why did the Cowboys use the 4th overall pick on an RB?

Answer the question little one.

What rushing "averages" did McFadden have last year that were better than 2010 as you claim?

C'mon Mr. Misspoken...quit running.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

What the hell are we even arguing about in this thread? I'm pretty sure we're keeping Morris AND McFadden to go with Elliot.

Romo's gonna have a lot of fun handing the ball off this year.

This used to be place to come and talk Cowboys. Now, when someone posts something, people want to prove how wrong they are. Everyone has an opinion and there is no need to try and prove them wrong. Too many know-it-alls if you ask me. I just put them on ignore....