McQeary Testifies...

[Stautner]

McQeary walked in after hearing something this is what he saw what was taking place prior? where they wrestling or what? I just think it is not a great day when a witness says he was unsure, if you are unsure about this what else may you be unsure of? Inappropriate behavior maybe so, molestation? Maybe so.

Well, again, this would be more of a concern if this was all the prosecution was going by, but as a peice of a story in which other incidents and other witnesses will be presented to the jury I think this strengthens the case.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well, again, this would be more of a concern if this was all the prosecution was going by, but as a peice of a story in which other incidents and other witnesses will be presented to the jury I think this strengthens the case.

True. It will be interesting to see more. I will say some of the people who have came out recently and made claims I think that only holds up if they can get him on a more recent attack. Once they can prove that then claims with less evidence would only strengthen their case. It is hard to prove something happened several years back on that persons word alone.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Out of all of today's testimony here are the bullet points--

McQueary is unsure if he saw a boy being raped.

McQueary told Paterno he witnessed something sexual in nature, not the rape of a child.

Neither Paterno nor Curley knew of the 1998 accusations

Shultz was at Curley's meetings with Paterno then McQueary as a representative of the Campus Police.

Paterno did follow up somewhat on the incident

 

[TNCowboy]

I don't know. Every reaction I hear to the testimony is awful. I can't imagine that the jury is going to look at it as anything short of damning.

Sandusky is a disgusting monster, but it speaks poorly of Paterno that he said he didn't contact universitiy officials right away because he didn't want to "disrupt their weekend". Unbelievable.

 

[casmith07]

I'm curious, what did you think McQueary was going to be testifying to?

The amount of snow fall in the Himalayas?

This, Dallas.

Sorry man, this story has been circulated millions of times to include a 1100+ post thread on this very website...if you're not sure of what McQueary would be testifying about at this point, then the internet is not for you.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't know. Every reaction I hear to the testimony is awful. I can't imagine that the jury is going to look at it as anything short of damning.

Sandusky is a disgusting monster, but it speaks poorly of Paterno that he said he didn't contact universitiy officials right away because he didn't want to "disrupt their weekend". Unbelievable.

When was that said? From the grand jury report it seemed as if after Paterno was told the news by McQueary he went the very next day to report it.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

When was that said? From the grand jury report it seemed as if after Paterno was told the news by McQueary he went the very next day to report it.

That's exactly right. Some people just want to do revisionist history to make things seem even more worse than they are.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I could have sworn up and down Anthony would go to jail for killing her daugther but the defense put enough doubt in the minds of the jury that it did not happen.

I think it's a bit different than that.

Casey Anthony was being tried for murder and the state had no real evidence as to how her daughter was murdered. Had the state gone after Anthony for a charge like 1st degree manslaughter, they probably would have gotten the conviction. But, they wanted to get Anthony for murder so they could sentence her to death and didn't really have the evidence to prove that (although I think everybody thinks she did it).

The state of Florida went for the homerun and didn't really think out the consequences.

Anyway, Sandusky is not going to be sentenced to death. Since that severe of a punishment is out of the equation, McQueary stating that he didn't know for sure what he saw doesn't help the defense that much. Also, no real witnesses to the Anthony case. McQuery is a witness here.

Apples and oranges.








YR

 

[Doomsday101]

That's exactly right. Some people just want to do revisionist history to make things seem even more worse than they are.

I think some people need to understand what a Grand Jury is. The defense attorney is not present, there is no cross-examination, the DA is the only one asking questions and in the end the grand jury is not determining guilt or innocent they are only determining if there is sufficient evidence to substantiate the charges.

As I have said before I'm not trying to claim the guy is innocent but he does deserve a fair trial and should be considered innocent until the state proves guilt.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Out of all of today's testimony here are the bullet points--

Neither Paterno nor Curley knew of the 1998 accusations

That's inaccurate.

http://www.centredaily.com/2011/12/16/3022351/mcqueary-testifying-at-hearing.html

However, Curley said "I didn't think it was a crime at the time." He said he was not aware of the 1998 investigation.

He said he told Sandusky he didn't want him bringing children into the football facilities again, and said he also informed The Second Mile of that.

Curley said he thought Sandusky's behavior was "inappropriate" but wasn't aware of any sexual activity.

Schultz, who was also represented by Baldwin when he testified, said he understood that something inappropriate had happened in the shower, and thought it had something to do with Sandusky and a boy wrestling in the shower and Sandusky grabbing the boy's genitals.

He indicated in his testimony that he was aware of the 1998 investigation. He also indicated Paterno was aware of the 1998 investigation, but he didn't remember the specifics of his conversation with Paterno about it.

YR

 

[Doomsday101]

I think it's a bit different than that.

Casey Anthony was being tried for murder and the state had no real evidence as to how her daughter was murdered. Had the state gone after Anthony for a charge like 1st degree manslaughter, they probably would have gotten the conviction. But, they wanted to get Anthony for murder so they could sentence her to death and didn't really have the evidence to prove that (although I think everybody thinks she did it).

The state of Florida went for the homerun and didn't really think out the consequences.

Anyway, Sandusky is not going to be sentenced to death. Since that severe of a punishment is out of the equation, McQueary stating that he didn't know for sure what he saw doesn't help the defense that much. Also, no real witnesses to the Anthony case. McQuery is a witness here.

Apples and oranges.








YR

What I mean is public had her in the electric chair and found her guilty in the public eye before a trail ever took place we passed a judgment.


I'm sure some will be offended but some of us still believe in giving a person a fair trial and giving them the status of innocent until proven guilty.

I freely admit I have been guilty of this in the past as well but every now and then I go back and remember the principals we were founded on.

If the state can prove these allegation then I’m all in favor of giving him the maximum the law will allow but 1st things 1st

 

[casmith07]

Schultz testimony today:

Schultz: there were things that were inappropriate, but I'm not sure they're illegal.

Prosecutor: I thought you said that he grabbed a boy's genitals?

Schultz: Again, that's inappropriate, but I'm not sure if that's illegal. I'm not saying any more than that.

Guy is trying to say the absolute minimum and be as vague as possible to avoid charges.

 

[03EBZ06]

Earlier, McQueary said he stopped Standusky from assulting the boy but now he is saying all he did was he made sure Standusky seen him to stop what he was doing. McQueary is a D-Bag and Standusky needs to be put away until he dies in the prison.

If McQueary, Paterno, and others weren't quite sure what took place, why didn't Paterno, or Shultz, or Curley interviewd the boy and Standusky? If they really cared about that boy's well being, then they should have questioned him (with his parents present) to have a better understanding of what took place.

 

[Doomsday101]

Earlier, McQueary said he stopped Standusky from assulting the boy but now he is saying all he did was he made sure Standusky seen him to stop what he was doing. McQueary is a D-Bag and Standusky needs to be put away until he dies in the prison.

If McQueary, Paterno, and others weren't quite sure what took place, why didn't Paterno, or Shultz, or Curley interviewd the boy and Standusky? If they really cared about that boy's well being, then they should have questioned him (with his parents present) to have a better understanding of what took place.

They should have gone to campus police, the interviewing should have been done by police not the AD or a coach.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

They should have gone to campus police, the interviewing should have been done by police not the AD or a coach.

They did go to the Campus Police.

 

[Doomsday101]

They did go to the Campus Police.

Then they did what should have been expected of them. They are not in a position to take the law into their own hands.

 

[joseephuss]

Earlier, McQueary said he stopped Standusky from assulting the boy but now he is saying all he did was he made sure Standusky seen him to stop what he was doing. McQueary is a D-Bag and Standusky needs to be put away until he dies in the prison.

In the grand jury testimony McQueary essentially said the same thing he said today during his testimony. It was between both legal proceedings that McQueary modified his accounts about what happened. He heard all of the negative reactions about him and changed his story to being more proactive in the situation. Now that he was back under oath he returns to the story of having a more passive reaction to what he witnessed. He is a joke.

 

[03EBZ06]

They should have gone to campus police, the interviewing should have been done by police not the AD or a coach.

I think they should have asked the kid what happened to get a better understanding of what took place and then gone to the local police, not the campus police who are nothing more than glorified security guards.

This wasn't some bike or books getting stolen, it is a very serious event, beyond campus police and should have gotten local police dept involved.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think they should have asked the kid what happened to get a better understanding of what took place and then gone to the local police, not the campus police who are nothing more than glorified security guards.

This wasn't some bike or books getting stolen, it is a very serious event, beyond campus police and should have gotten local police dept involved.

Depends on the school. Some campus police are sworn police officers not some glorified security guard but again depend on the university

 

[burmafrd]

doesn't matter if they are sworn or not; for something like this you go to regular police. NO way do you put it in anyones hands that might have a reason to try and hide it; which is just what happened.

And sorry trying to claim horseplay is so stupid its not even laughable.

NAKED ADULT in his 50's with a NAKED BOYunder the age of 18 in a shower where the man is pressing the boy with his groin against the boys bottom against the wall.

NO one is dumb enough to buy the horseplay BS.