You make a good point … and this whole conversation has been a good one with solid contributions from all participant. It is what good football talk should be … and regularly is here in Cowboys Zone.
But people don't even know that. As I said, many fans don't even know what the rule on holding says specifically, yet they know it's been judged differently across all games every week of the season that they've no-doubt seen? This is where people use the "I have seen ...." defense with literally nothing else to back it up. Because holding is a judgement call, of course "in someone's judgement" something was a material restriction whereas another thought it didn't meet the criteria. You're asking for perfection that's not possible, nor will ever be. Even if it were called by AI, someone would chime in about how the AI was programmed to screw the Cowboys. Lol.
I'd like to see video documentation of these "crimes" but I never do. All I ever witness here is "I have seen ...." testimonies. That doesn't cut it because all people see here is bias, even as they accuse refs of bias. Ain't that something they call ironic? Freud calls it projection. Lol.
i'm not asking for perfection. but we are far from it today.
First of all it's not important enough for me to go find video for anybody. Secondly you have been seen "not seeing" things in many a video in the past rendering the efforts of whoever posted the video wasted on you. I have witness you justifying the hammer lock around Micah's neck as being "within the rules" on more than one occasion so you have zero credibility in any such discussion. IMHO of course.
I saw the tweet but I could not read the article behind the paywall. I do see Parsons get held a lot and it is not called. Honestly, I see a lot of holding every week by every team and it is not called. I don't know what triggers a holding call in the mind of the refs anymore. I am fine with not calling holding when it is not material to the play, but you see holding at the point of attack and nothing is called so it is baffling to me.
We do get holding called against us all the time. What games you watching? I can't even remember the last time I saw the cowboys make a play and not look for a flag.
Agreed. Refs are not great all around and miss calls on everybody. I just speak to the "they give it to us worse than they do other teams" theory because people think missing a call on us is "evidence" when they do it to everyone. As soon as they can sample every team's calls and show how we get it worse it's probably just the fan bias talking. But people get soooo creative when they need to defend a loss, lol.
Did Parsons use a rip move to get into the hammer lock position in these "examples?" Because you do know holding won't be called in that case as it's an exception to the rule, don't you? Well, don't you? This is why it's hard to discuss the holding rule with someone when they don't even know entirely what the heck they're railing against in the first place. So when I counter uninformed noise, it IS gonna look kinda funny.
or.... the penalties called/not called impact the records?
I want it to be called if it impacts the play in such a way that it enables an effective offensive play that otherwise would not have been effective without the hold.
Nonsense. Like how have you ever watched Tyron Smith get called for holding and think there's legitimacy to this point.
How does Martin not get called? They like him?
You're correct. I totally overlooked that. Ok, so 4 total holds. Unreal. Lol
I thought "Danielle" was some random female.
You are trying to revise history. I was around in those days and watched all the time. Those guys all drew flags when they were held.
I'd dismiss it too when the "Martin problem" gets brought up. But did you forget that you're commenting in a thread that's trying to make the assertion that Parsons should have more holding calls on him because of his talent level? I mean, I hope that irony isn't lost on you.
