Michael Irvin accused of rape at Seminole Hard Rock/ESPN 103.3 Show Canceled *Merge*

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CanadianCowboysFan;3267820 said:
You are assuming that they didn't discuss that issue before marriage and agree that it was ok or have an open marriage.

Right -- that would explain Michael's tearful apology to Sandy and his kids in Canton because he has an open marriage and has nothing to apologize for . . .
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3267889 said:
Wow, people jump my throat for defending Deon for letting a valet see his gun. But when a girl says someone raped here, there's all this mercy. Weird. I guess it just depends on who you are.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/3/2/8/8/p32884_index.html

But for the record, there are reasons why many women don't report rape. Above is just one link. A quick google search and you'll find many others.

Are there reasons why a woman would report a rape case and then sign it all away the following day, only to come back two years later and try again?

This wasn't a case of her not reporting it. She reported it the day after she said it happened and then promptly gave up on it.
 

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fgoodwin;3267917 said:
Would he have been talking to this lady and making friendly if he'd been with his wife? If he acts differently when she's not around, that's a reflection on his character. If he treated EVERY situation like Sandy was standing next to him, maybe he could avoid these "compromising positions" . . .
Maybe, Irvin is a pretty chatty, energetic guy who probably would open up a conversation with a lot of people. He could have just had a casual conversation with her and if there were other people around because of who he is. So is he supposed to never have a conversation with a woman other than his wife? You can't avoid people recognizing you especially when you are a Hall of Fame football player and a high profile one like Irvin. It doesn't mean he did anything wrong if he talked with this woman. Maybe he turned this woman down?
 

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Hoofbite;3267957 said:
Are there reasons why a woman would report a rape case and then sign it all away the following day, only to come back two years later and try again?

This wasn't a case of her not reporting it. She reported it the day after she said it happened and then promptly gave up on it.

There is what is called post traumatic stress. This is one of the common symptoms behind women not reporting rapes.
 

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fgoodwin;3267598 said:
I haven't made my mind up -- I'm just wondering out loud why Irvin attracts all these false claims but other rich ex-players, many of them also in the public eye, don't . . .

Perhaps because he has a wild past, well documented, so any such claim might be more easily believed by the general public??

If you're looking to set somebody up, do you go looking to victimize the choirboy, or the wild child??

There's no denying that Michael Irvin was a jerk in his younger day, but it doesn't necessarily follow that he still is... he might be, he might not...

Which means he might be completely, 100 per cent innocent this time around... and in fact, the facts we know about this incident lead most (it would seem) to the conclusion that this accusation is dubious at best...

It wouldn't surprise me if Michael's "redemption" was a con, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's the victim here, either...
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3268007 said:
There is what is called post traumatic stress. This is one of the common symptoms behind women not reporting rapes.

I'm sure there is but that's a pretty weak route to explain why someone would practically recant their accusation less than 24 hours after making it.

Again, she reported it. My question is why she would, for all intents and purposes, "un-report" it.
 

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Hoofbite;3268040 said:
I'm sure there is but that's a pretty weak route to explain why someone would practically recant their accusation less than 24 hours after making it.

Again, she reported it. My question is why she would, for all intents and purposes, "un-report" it.

She didn't recant her statements. Rather she signed an affidavit of non-prosecution. And perhaps because Irvin recanted an offer he initially agreed to pay because that goes on record and would make him look guilty in the public light.
 

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Sucks that Michael Irvin's show got canned as it appears I am one of the few that actually liked his show.

Hopefully Nate Newton lands on another show.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3268060 said:
She didn't recant her statements. Rather she signed an affidavit of non-prosecution. And perhaps because Irvin recanted an offer he initially agreed to pay because that goes on record and would make him look guilty in the public light.

Speculation at best. Even that hypothetical doesn't make sense.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3268087 said:
Sucks that Michael Irvin's show got canned as it appears I am one of the few that actually liked his show.

Hopefully Nate Newton lands on another show.

Same here. I often listened to the show at my desk during lunch.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3268087 said:
Sucks that Michael Irvin's show got canned as it appears I am one of the few that actually liked his show.

Hopefully Nate Newton lands on another show.
I only listened because of Nate. I don't know why he doesn't have his own show.
 

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I actually liked Kevin Kiley too. I couldn't stand him at first but eventually he let loose and he and Michael were good radio together.

I have no problem listening to ben and skin if im going somewhere 6 o clock at night but they are terrible daytime radio.


I think the only guy they could even think about getting now is Laufenberg with maybe Kiley and Nate.

But Ben and Skin for morning radio is trash.
 

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fgoodwin;3267917 said:
Would he have been talking to this lady and making friendly if he'd been with his wife? If he acts differently when she's not around, that's a reflection on his character. If he treated EVERY situation like Sandy was standing next to him, maybe he could avoid these "compromising positions" . . .

All guys act differently when wife is around, that is the nature of manhood. Men fight temptation daily.

I would love to hammer my secretary on my desk but I fight the temptation.

Willing females are everywhere, you cannot escape them.
 

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always the lowest common denominator for CCF. Always set the bar as low as possible. Never try and be better.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3268357 said:
All guys act differently when wife is around, that is the nature of manhood. Men fight temptation daily.

I would love to hammer my secretary on my desk but I fight the temptation.

Willing females are everywhere, you cannot escape them.
Would your secretary even be willing? Or would your fabulous clothes and fabulous highlights be too much for her to handle?
 

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CATCH17;3268301 said:
I actually liked Kevin Kiley too. I couldn't stand him at first but eventually he let loose and he and Michael were good radio together.

I have no problem listening to ben and skin if im going somewhere 6 o clock at night but they are terrible daytime radio.


I think the only guy they could even think about getting now is Laufenberg with maybe Kiley and Nate.

But Ben and Skin for morning radio is trash.

thats the unnoticed tragedy of this whole thing.......... those guys getting Mikes time slot ..............I HATE BEN AND SKIN
 

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dadymat;3268415 said:
thats the unnoticed tragedy of this whole thing.......... those guys getting Mikes time slot ..............I HATE BEN AND SKIN

I think they are ok in a certain role but not in a primetime slot. Thats a joke.
 

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Cover 2;3268392 said:
Would your secretary even be willing? Or would your fabulous clothes and fabulous highlights be too much for her to handle?

I am sure if I were 10 years younger and no married, I would have a shot. She knows I'm vain but loves me anyway.
 
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