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Lets get this out of the way right now Dak has never thrown an interception that was his fault and his entire career.
Even if hes staring at a safety who he knows is waiting to jump the route, he's throwing that puppy anyway.
 

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thats why it was a mistake trading Cooper. Lamb is not ready to be a #1.
Talent wise you are right
But there is probably a reason a guy with his talent being on his 3rd team and one part of it is while he’s a great route runner he does take plays off when he’s not the target, and that’s well documented
 

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If the safety stays put you run over the top. If the safety's backpedaling you catch her out short. The safety wasn't moving until he saw the ball in the air. Lamb ran it long Daj threw it short... it was a miscommunication.

Sorry that is just not true.. The safety takes several backpedal steps at the snap..

Presnap he is standing at the GB 48 yard line.




At the time he starts to break for the INT he is inside the 40..




How did he get back 8 yards without "moving at all?"
 

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After the first mistake you address it in the film room.

After the second mistake you address it immediately on the sidelines.

No, because you could be wrong. Need to see the replay and walk through the adjustment that CeeDee read differently. Need actual film to do that
 

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Talent wise you are right
But there is probably a reason a guy with his talent being on his 3rd team and one part of it is while he’s a great route runner he does take plays off when he’s not the target, and that’s well documented
you do have a point, but any receiver that thinks and is open as much as Cooper was and don't get the ball gets frustrated. Some show it by yelling at the QB or a coach. Others, like Cooper pout and mentally checks out. Thats why good QBs force the ball to their best receiver. Dak likes to check down to TEs.
 

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He’s forcing throws because right now Ceedee is all he got. No one is breaking free and none of our receivers are giving ANY defensive backs reason to take a step back as their first move. Gallup is plodding out there and Noah is a plodder anyways.
Don't you think it's funny that Noah was getting open when Rush was QB?
 

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Not the wrong route.. just the right route run incorrectly. He has allowed his instinct to run towards what he perceives to be open space to cause him to fail to honor a fundamental rule when running over the middle routes.. which is that you CANNOT let the safety beat you to the spot. You have to cross his face because the QB is counting you to get there before the DB does and will throw it to a spot rather than to a body. If you don't go to the spot but the DB does, instant INT. CeeDee is not the first receiver to do this.. But if he's going to continue to he our go to receiver he has to get that fixed. He's got to be willing to go up and take the hit to make the catch (or draw the PI) by forcing the DB to have to go through him to make a play on the ball.

If CeeDee squares off his route the play has a good chance. But he tends to run soft routes. Drifts instead of planting a foot and cutting.
 

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Wait, are you saying one of those two picks was the fault of the OC, and one of the WR's?

How can this be? The panel of experts here on, "I Hate All Things Cowboys," has determined this is all Dak's fault. Something is not adding up. The head coach of a professional football team has a differing opinion from the fans who watch the games on TV.

Who to believe?

Some fans tune out perspective that doesn't validate their own opinion. The first int definitely had some tight routes, which is likely not all on Dak, but I thought he could have made a smarter play there rather than forcing into a crowded area in the middle of the field. 2nd one its tough when you're trying to anticipate a receiver getting to a designed spot then run a totally different route.
 

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He’s forcing throws because right now Ceedee is all he got. No one is breaking free and none of our receivers are giving ANY defensive backs reason to take a step back as their first move. Gallup is plodding out there and Noah is a plodder anyways.

Lamb is the *best* he's got as a player. But given that he's our best, he'll get the defense's best.
Look at the QB rating when targeted. The WRs all bunched between 85-90. While the *rookie* TEs much higher. They're not better players, but they could be better matchups.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/receiving_advanced.htm
 

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It couldn’t have been Dak’s fault. How dare you accuse him of throwing that pass? Dak knew before the ball was hiked that he was throwing there; that’s why it’s “on Ceedee.” God forbid Dak actually anticipate and go through his progressions and not stare down his target the entire play. DAK SUCKS
 

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Don't you think it's funny that Noah was getting open when Rush was QB?

If you look at the throws to Noah every one of them were tight window. Noah was never screaming open on any of his plays.
 

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Wasn’t that pick in the endzone late 3rd quarter when we were up by 14. Why throw that. Dak has to be smarter. A FG then was a kill shot. Protecting a 17 point lead is easier than 14. Now we play a 8-1 team.
 

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If you look at the throws to Noah every one of them were tight window. Noah was never screaming open on any of his plays.
They were not deeper throws. When Moore tries to push the ball passing to far down field to early it’s picked. The pick Rush threw against the egirls early looked like the same play as Daks first. We run the ball and establish with short throws and set up play action. It’s the formula.
 

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Wasn’t that pick in the endzone late 3rd quarter when we were up by 14. Why throw that. Dak has to be smarter. A FG then was a kill shot. Protecting a 17 point lead is easier than 14. Now we play a 8-1 team.

No both picks were early in the 2nd quarter. The first one was at 7-0 and the second one at 7-7.
 

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No both picks were early in the 2nd quarter. The first one was at 7-0 and the second one at 7-7.
Ok. Thought it was 3rd quarter. Maybe was 3rd down. Still a wasted drive that likely would have been points. Never should have thrown into that coverage. Try Pollard in the back. Or just tuck and run. Throw it away or just call a run to begin with. Bad play call bad routes and bad throw..
 

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Sorry that is just not true.. The safety takes several backpedal steps at the snap..

Presnap he is standing at the GB 48 yard line.




At the time he starts to break for the INT he is inside the 40..




How did he get back 8 yards without "moving at all?"

With 2 open WR standing there and Brown at the bottom was left open. The corner let him go and safety was way off. He knew he was going there and so did the defense..
 

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With 2 open WR standing there and Brown at the bottom was left open. The corner let him go and safety was way off. He knew he was going there and so did the defense..

That good opposing defenses know exactly where our routes are going to end up is nothing new. We are hamstrung by the formulas we use to determine our routes. We need to change it up.. and quickly. Otherwise any time we play against a team with decent talent and DC with half a brain we're going to have issues on offense. You can't always count on being able to "out-talent" teams.. sometimes you need to outcoach them.
 
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