Mike Leach on QB accuracy

[Idgit]

And damn! Damning! @Idgit ! I need some positive coaching reinforcement on this! Stat!

It’s hopeless.

 

[Corso]

It’s hopeless.

Bird, bird, bird. Bird is the word.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Bird, bird, bird. Bird is the word.

I can't respond to private messages. but he's a beast he's playing apex legends right now

 

[MapleLeaf]

I'm of the belief that if you have the basic skill set you can work hard and get better.

In all ways....

Footwork.
Recognition.
Arm Strength.
Anticipation.
Leadership.

You can improve both your body and your mind. I believe improvement applies to everyone on the team. Coaches and players.

 

[SSoup]

Dak completed 67.7% of his passes, good for Top 10 in the league among starting QBs (and it's not even the first time he ranked so high). Ahead of some names I'm sure the original poster would swear up and down are his/her idea of elite. And some of those names are guys whose yards per attempt was lower than or barely any higher than Dak's, murdering the argument that he throws freakishly short passes all the time to prop up his completion percentage.

Whatever.

Dak misses throws. All passers do. But he completes a fine percentage.

The dumber Dak-haters would have us throw him overboard for some new kid who we'll spend years trying to coach up to match Dak's completion percentage or winning percentage or TD-to-INT ratio or game-winning drive poise, or for some veteran who's probably spent years largely falling short in some (if not all) of those categories. Just because Dak isn't the portrait of perfection they demand based on nostalgia-goggles for past Cowboy quarterbacks who--breaking news flash--also missed throws and left big opportunities unrealized. Ugh.

 

[irishline]

I make this of it. Two words. Drew Brees.

Drew Brees, who went from a sub 60% completion quarterback in San Diego to completing nearly 75% of his passes this year. And whose completion percentages have increased again and again and again throughout his career.

The facts and statistics actually show me what's true, rather than people talking.

Drew Brees had one season under 60% in San Diego. And was never under 60% in college. Not sure what you are saying here, your last sentence talks about what is true, but what you said about him is not, in fact, true. His last two seasons in San Diego were around 65%, just slightly under is career average.

Not saying Dak can't improve, or Brees didn't somewhat, but not to the extent your "facts" indicate.

 

[Stash]

@stash is back in the thread. This sucka going 20 pages, at least.

 

[Stash]

And damn! Damning! @Idgit ! I need some positive coaching reinforcement on this! Stat!

 

[Stash]

Drew Brees had one season under 60% in San Diego. And was never under 60% in college. Not sure what you are saying here, your last sentence talks about what is true, but what you said about him is not, in fact, true. His last two seasons in San Diego were around 65%, just slightly under is career average.

Not saying Dak can't improve, or Brees didn't somewhat, but not to the extent your "facts" indicate.

Was Brees not at one point under 60% in San Diego?

 

[InTheZone]

Dak completed 67.7% of his passes, good for Top 10 in the league among starting QBs (and it's not even the first time he ranked so high). Ahead of some names I'm sure the original poster would swear up and down are his/her idea of elite. And some of those names are guys whose yards per attempt was lower than or barely any higher than Dak's, murdering the argument that he throws freakishly short passes all the time to prop up his completion percentage.

Whatever.

Dak misses throws. All passers do. But he completes a fine percentage.

The dumber Dak-haters would have us throw him overboard for some new kid who we'll spend years trying to coach up to match Dak's completion percentage or winning percentage or TD-to-INT ratio or game-winning drive poise, or for some veteran who's probably spent years largely falling short in some (if not all) of those categories. Just because Dak isn't the portrait of perfection they demand based on nostalgia-goggles for past Cowboy quarterbacks who--breaking news flash--also missed throws and left big opportunities unrealized. Ugh.

1. Why are they dumb?
2. Dak is going on year 4. I expect you to give the new guy 4 years with the same leniency when the time comes.
3. Do you think a new guy would struggle throwing passes strictly to the outside, as Dak typically does?
4. Do you think a new guy would lead the league in sacks like Dak has?

I think when we acknowledge Daks abilities and limits maybe we can agree he's not as great as you'd think and not as bad as you think others think of him, yes? Is there anything that wows you with confidence when you watch Dak drop back to pass?

 

[Primetime42]

Dakota has shown enough flashes that we can say the accuracy is in there.

The concern is, and has always been, his footwork.

If they can fix that (far from a given), watch out.

 

[HungryLion]

Dak completed 67.7% of his passes, good for Top 10 in the league among starting QBs (and it's not even the first time he ranked so high). Ahead of some names I'm sure the original poster would swear up and down are his/her idea of elite. And some of those names are guys whose yards per attempt was lower than or barely any higher than Dak's, murdering the argument that he throws freakishly short passes all the time to prop up his completion percentage.

Whatever.

Dak misses throws. All passers do. But he completes a fine percentage.

The dumber Dak-haters would have us throw him overboard for some new kid who we'll spend years trying to coach up to match Dak's completion percentage or winning percentage or TD-to-INT ratio or game-winning drive poise, or for some veteran who's probably spent years largely falling short in some (if not all) of those categories. Just because Dak isn't the portrait of perfection they demand based on nostalgia-goggles for past Cowboy quarterbacks who--breaking news flash--also missed throws and left big opportunities unrealized. Ugh.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Name one NFL QB in the history of the NFL that has been accurate in ALL situations. Name one NFL QB in the history of the game that has not missed passes that they completed in pop warner. Just name one.....dance puppet dance. This is media driven. You may not know that you are a puppet but the media is creating this narrative about Dak of not being accurate.

Because the media hate Dak?
Because there is a conspiracy afoot?
Because the media needs a punching bag?
Could not the media find another victim among the 31 other starting QBs?
My, the media are meanies!

 

[Diehardblues]

I didn’t say as prolific. You’re putting words in my mouth because again, you named two QB’s who in fact don’t carry their teams. At all.

You first mentioned a QB carrying a team. I asked for an example, you couldn’t provide one, and Now you’re talking about improving a team. There’s a huge difference between improving a team and carrying a team.

Btw the Rams sucked during Goff’s first year in the league. Then they changed coaches.

So yes Goff helped the team improve. But everyone knows coaching was holding that team back before McVay was hired.

IMO they are the difference. Our opinions differ is all. We’re at an impasse that cant be met.

 

[Alexander]

I guess Aikman qualifies as a "hater".

 

[Corso]

I can't respond to private messages. but he's a beast he's playing apex legends right now

Yeah... this guy's incredible.

 

[CowboyRoy]

There is no coach that can teach Dak how to throw a football. You're either accurate, or you're not.

This isn't about poise. Dak has poise. So it isn't an experience fix that comes with getting "comfortable". Dak is comfortable.

And that's a problem because this just comes down to lack of ability.

Darius Jackson can practice all he wants, but he'll never be Zeke. Dak can work himself to the bone, but he'll never be an elite passer.

The narrative that he is inaccurate is simply false. Now you can say he may not be as accurate as some of the elite guys, but that doesn't make him inaccurate. Its just way overblown. It has to be or the guy wouldn't win. And certainly in clutch situations he is as good as anyone in the game. And ultimately that is the measure.

In 3 years Dak has never had a losing season, made the playoffs twice, won a playoff game, won rookie of the year and made the pro bowl twice. Now how would that all be possible if a QB was inaccurate as you say?

Its either one of two things. Either the accuracy issue aren't as bad as you say, or he is sooo good at all the other things that it more than makes up for it. Either way the kid can ball and is only getting better.

Stress about and hate about all you want. Dak is going to be here for a long time.

 

[CowboyRoy]

In other words, a college offense, which will get trashed in the NFL.

The final 8 quarterbacks in the playoffs were Brady, Brees, Goff, Rivers, Mahomes, Foles, Luck, and Dak.

Only one of those quarerbacks isn't comfortable in the pocket. That's where the elite NFL is played.

Who says he isn't comfortable in the pocket? You?

NO QB is comfortable in a pocket that collapses.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm of the belief that if you have the basic skill set you can work hard and get better.

In all ways....

Footwork.
Recognition.
Arm Strength.
Anticipation.
Leadership.

You can improve both your body and your mind. I believe improvement applies to everyone on the team. Coaches and players.

accuracy, comfort improves with every QB organically the better the Oline plays and the more time he has with his receivers and the offense.

No one talked about sacks, pocket awareness, or accuracy with Dak the first 24 games of his career. It was only when the Oline started falling apart did any of this stuff come up.

 

[CowboyRoy]

1. Why are they dumb?
2. Dak is going on year 4. I expect you to give the new guy 4 years with the same leniency when the time comes.
3. Do you think a new guy would struggle throwing passes strictly to the outside, as Dak typically does?
4. Do you think a new guy would lead the league in sacks like Dak has?

I think when we acknowledge Daks abilities and limits maybe we can agree he's not as great as you'd think and not as bad as you think others think of him, yes? Is there anything that wows you with confidence when you watch Dak drop back to pass?

A QB leading the league in sacks? LOL

That's a new one. So in the first two years when Dak was sacked 28 and 32 times was he better at NOT getting sacked then?

And Dak doesn't struggle throwing to the outside. You made that up.