Mike Lombardi on Roy Williams

[Chocolate Lab]

Thanks for the link, IR. I've seen Lombardi on NFLN but didn't know he had a blog.

The "Hollywood" comment I'm sure comes from that recent Galloway column. Galloway has actually mentioned this several times on his radio show, but I guess that column is the first time it's been in print. He says a former coach of Roy's here told him that he thinks Roy got too focused on the big hit and it hurt his fundamentals. He doesn't mean Matt Leinart-Hollywood in that Roy wants to be a celebrity, but that he wanted to make the highlight reels.

Galloway says the coach doesn't think Roy was a terrible player, just that he got sidetracked trying to make the Jacked Up shows.

BTW, the former coach could be Bowles or even Campo, but I can almost guarantee that it's Mike Zimmer. I know Galloway used to talk to him pretty often.

I thought it was pretty interesting that an agent would call Lombardi or someone like him to get an opinion on a contract.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think he means going Hollywood, at the time he was dating Kelly Rowland and hanging out with Jay Z. Remember this was asked about him when his extension was taking place. Could be wrong

He's referencing a Randy Gallway column with the following exerpts.

The darker side of the story involves harsh comments from past and present members of the Cowboys' defensive staff.

A year ago, I heard this from a prominent coach no longer here:

"Roy has gone Hollywood. He's most concerned with making SportsCenter highlights by blowing up a guy than he is working hard at improving his coverage and his game."

Last season, however, even the massive hits were few. But different coaching voices follow the same "Hollywood" theme, with stuff like, "Roy likes being a celebrity more than a football player," or "he's exchanged passion for the glory."

When a coach was asked if Roy was a much better fit in a 4-3 system, he answered, "When your preparation and dedication are lacking, you can't blame that on a scheme."

Throw in the fact that he has teammates calling him out on national radio shows for not working out with the rest of the team, and his coaches are having to conduct behind closed doors sit downs with him and it's not hard to read between the lines.

Thankfully, Roy is doing everything he can to dispell these rumors and myths by going on family vacations as one of only two players to skip OTAs, the other one not even under contract .

 

[Aliencowboy]

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http://www.lombardionfootball.com/2008/05/roy-williams.html[/QUOTE]

That's truth.

 

[Kilyin]

So if the Cowboys release him next offseason, when his cap figure makes it feasible for the first time to do so, I assume you're going to be the first one on the board to rip the Cowboys FO and braintrust a new one for releasing such a phenomenal player for no good reason at all.

According to Adam (and I never question his cap figures) we could have released Roy Williams this offseason and saved money... so there goes that theory.

And Roy Williams rarely ever blitzes. This guy might be some sort of NFL savant but he clearly isn't watching the Cowboys games.

 

[theogt]

So if the Cowboys release him next offseason, when his cap figure makes it feasible for the first time to do so, I assume you're going to be the first one on the board to rip the Cowboys FO and braintrust a new one for releasing such a phenomenal player for no good reason at all.

It's feasible to cut him right now. We'd save a good bit of cap space doing it.

Seems like you and Lombardi just don't know all the facts. Lombardi clearly has not watched him play if he thinks Roy blitzes "all the time."

The guy has worked in the NFL, but he's also been fired by terrible NFL teams. Many GMs and scouts in the NFL are just plain stupid. Jeremy Green, Pat Kirwan, etc. These guys held scouting jobs in the NFL, even high level scouting jobs.

 

[theogt]

According to Adam (and I never question his cap figures) we could have released Roy Williams this offseason and saved money... so there goes that theory.

And Roy Williams rarely ever blitzes. This guy might be some sort of NFL savant but he clearly isn't watching the Cowboys games.

He spent 8 years in the Raiders scouting department until he was fired in '07. Not sure that could qualify someone as a savant.

I believe IR's statement that "he has led player personnel departments" is incorrect. To my knowledge he didn't "lead" a single personnel department.

And I'd throw IR's question to me back at him. If Lombardi is so smart, why isn't he working for a team instead of SI.com?

 

[Kilyin]

He spent 8 years in the Raiders scouting department until he was fired in '07. Not sure that could qualify someone as a savant.

I believe IR's statement that "he has led player personnel departments" is incorrect. To my knowledge he didn't "lead" a single personnel department.

And I'd throw IR's question to me back at him. If Lombardi is so smart, why isn't he working for a team instead of SI.com?

I see, personally I only recognize the name because it's "Lombardi" and I've heard it mentioned a time or two. Otherwise, no clue who he is. Going by InmanRoshi's description you'd think we were talking about Tom Landry or Bill Walsh.

 

[theogt]

He's referencing a Randy Gallway column with the following exerpts.

Superb scouting by Mr. Lombardi there. When in doubt, just quote a Galloway column.

Throw in the fact that he has teammates calling him out on national radio shows for not working out with the rest of the team, and his coaches are having to conduct behind closed doors sit downs with him and it's not hard to read between the lines.

Thankfully, Roy is doing everything he can to dispell these rumors and myths by going on family vacations as one of only two players to skip OTAs, the other one not even under contract .

So, apparently (1) he gets called out for coming into work early, and (2) is somehow not working hard? Amazing.

 

[jimmy40]

I don't feel that his evaluation of where Roy is limited to playing is correct. In fact, I feel that the "second level" is where Roy's game gets exposed the most. Because he does not have good change of direction, if he anticipates wrong, he will get beat badly. Because he is still a tremendous athlete, no matter what people say, he can still make the tackle even when he gets beat like that.

Where Roy excels is in that third level. Where he can roam and use his anticipation to his advantage. Why we elected to use him at that second level in passing situations is beyond me - I think it's a poor fit.

You wonder where the big hits went - he wasn't put in a position to make them, truly. I guess we wanted him there because his presence at the second level instantly improves our run support against spread formations. I really believe, and of course it's just speculation, that if we had played Hamlin at strong and Roy at free, you would have seen identical results. Because what Roy does is track the ball well in the air - not cover short routes that require quick hips and excellent anticipation if you even want to have a prayer of stopping them.

If we keep him down there, we'll continue to see good run defense, I have no doubt of that. But if we do that, I think we can forget about the big hits and interceptions returning. There just aren't that many opportunities to make those plays from the position he's playing. So I would really question just how much of Roy Williams Mr. Lombardi has watched, and broken down. Because if you do watch him, I can't see how you could possibly come to the same conclusion as Mr. Lombardi - unless you're operating under the misguided assumption that Wade plays Roy in the nickel LB role to "protect/hide him".

RW tracks the ball well in the air?

Because he does not have good change of direction, if he anticipates wrong, he will get beat badly. Because he is still a tremendous athlete, no matter what people say, he can still make the tackle even when he gets beat like that.

Thanks man, I needed a good laugh this morning.

 

[DanTanna]

Yeah, all you need to do is work for an NFL team for 20 minutes and get fired and move to the next team. Then you are an expert with 22 years of experience.:laugh2:

His statements are what a foreskins fan would write after getting home from school.

 

[superpunk]

RW tracks the ball well in the air?

Because he does not have good change of direction, if he anticipates wrong, he will get beat badly. Because he is still a tremendous athlete, no matter what people say, he can still make the tackle even when he gets beat like that.

Thanks man, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I'm glad the truth amuses you.

Simple minds...

 

[jimmy40]

I'm glad the truth amuses you.

Simple minds...

He such a great athlete he can't change directions. Once again, thanks.

 

[superpunk]

He such a great athlete he can't change directions. Once again, thanks.

No problem.

Maybe later I can show you some Disney videos and take you to Chuck-E-Cheese. That should really knock your socks off.

 

[stealth]

can I get in on chuck-e-cheese?

 

[jimmy40]

No problem.

Maybe later I can show you some Disney videos and take you to Chuck-E-Cheese. That should really knock your socks off.

Actually I watched the second National Treasure movie last night and I'm taking my grand daughter to Chuck-E-Cheese for her 4th birthday party here in about an hour. Thanks for the offer though.

This is the fun part of questioning RW's skills, seeing ******** posts trying to defend him.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

Anybody who says Roy Williams is not the guy that is targeted when throwing the ball on the Cowboys is foolish.

OCs scheme to get this guy in pass coverage.

Call me foolish but I think Jones was the one targeted, and like I keep repeating, lots of the blame for Williams lack of coverage goes to linebackers. And how many safeties can cover a wideout one on one? But you say that he can't cover in zone? Then see my comments on LBs because lots of catches against RW were against the zone and he just happened to be the closest defender.

Does he have problems in the new defense? Yes. But it's too early to give up on the guy.

 

[superpunk]

can I get in on chuck-e-cheese?

Act more infantile, and I'll take you and jimmy both. I'll warn you in advance, you've got alot of catching up to do.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Anybody who says Roy Williams is not the guy that is targeted when throwing the ball on the Cowboys is foolish.

OCs scheme to get this guy in pass coverage.

Just so you know OCs scheme to get all SS in one on one coverage. If Witten had one on one coverage Romo would go to him everytime.

 

[stealth]

Act more infantile, and I'll take you and jimmy both. I'll warn you in advance, you've got alot of catching up to do.

poopy-face!

 

[ajk23az]

Reeves anyone?

Is Reeves on the team anymore? I am pretty sure I see him on the Texans roster.