Mike Lombardi's Dallas Free Agent Target

[jjktkk]

I am not a fan of reunion tours. Even if they did that, it should be a supplement to other talent, not viewed as a band aid to buy a year.

It theoretically could be a band aid, to see if we have anything with Tapper, Mayowa. etc., plus, add in the fact that Ware could provide valuable leadership to this young group.

 

[Alexander]

It theoretically could be a band aid, to see if we have anything with Tapper, Mayowa. etc., plus, add in the fact that Ware could provide valuable leadership to this young group.

And that would be a mistake IMO. Just limiting yourself too much.

We are beyond the point where we can keep hoping the DL turns itself around and carries its weight to help us win football games.

 

[waldoputty]

What the Cowboys will do be what they should do are different things. They should address the position that they've shown the complete and utter inability to draft in FA. "Overpaying" is the result of being unable to fill that position any other way. The other option is to build slowly through the draft which at best is going to take a couple of years to show results and waste Daks cheap years, Zekes freshest years, age the OL and have Dez on the backend of his career.

overpaying is a fallacy.
it is a free market dictated by supply and demand.
not building the best team you can will simply waste the best years of Dez/Zeke and the OL.

 

[Bowdown27]

What is with this "overpay" thing? So we assume someone else overpays when the reality is we simply can't compete?

There is very little "right price" when you are talking about free agents in their prime. If they are bargains, there is a reason. Too old, injured, etc.

There's a reason he's a free agent. He either wants a lot of money or just hasn't played up to par. He will get paid wherever but if someone offers him 16 million like jpp and we offer half pretty sure he'll go w 16 million and he'll be getting overpaid for going to a crappy team like jags or something

 

[Risen Star]

I think I've already established you're not getting a splashy FA signing at DE and you very easily might not get one in the 1st round of the draft. Any improvement will need to come from within with the hopes that Lawrence and Tapper make a significant difference.

Bathe in it.

 

[Stash]

I am not a fan of reunion tours. Even if they did that, it should be a supplement to other talent, not viewed as a band aid to buy a year.

I can see your point, but I prefer going the bridge player route and buying myself time to get the rookie defenders I draft this year to learn and get acclimated to the game.

I myself prefer to take the risk on a year or two with Ware to paying out big money guarantees to any of the free agent names I've seen.

 

[Risen Star]

I can see your point, but I prefer going the bridge player route and buying myself time to get the rookie defenders I draft this year to learn and get acclimated to the game.

I myself prefer to take the risk on a year or two with Ware to paying out big money guarantees to any of the free agent names I've seen.

I'd rather do nothing than bring in a broken down declining player for nostalgia.

 

[Stash]

I'd rather do nothing than bring in a broken down declining player for nostalgia.

We've all got our own opinions.

 

[Risen Star]

We've all got our own opinions.

Ware being a broken down declining player isn't an opinion.

 

[jujoboys]

i thought ingram was 265lb?
we use a lot of 3 man front also, especially in passing downs.
could see him as LB/RDE combo.

The Chargers website and ESPN both have him listed at 6'2" and 247 lbs. Seems like the Chargers' website would know his weight.

 

[Reality]

What is with this "overpay" thing? So we assume someone else overpays when the reality is we simply can't compete?

There is very little "right price" when you are talking about free agents in their prime. If they are bargains, there is a reason. Too old, injured, etc.

I have to agree with this. I'm tired of the "bargain" approach we have tried over the years with older players, recovering injured players, high draft pick busts of other teams, personal redemption projects, etc. It's time the Cowboys either go all in or simply stop trying when it comes to defensive linemen free agents.

 

[ShiningStar]

a lot of posters are making sense. but first we need to have the discussion "Will Dallas change the way it sees FA due to the fact they are so close to the SB" I think we need to address the issue, is this team 1 or 2 players away from a SB hunt , or do we need to scrap a lot of players and just get blue chippers to fill the need and understand we are giving up on the SB yet again. I think this FA is highly needed for 1 or 2 players for 2 reasons. we should make a hard run at the SB and 2 a lot of teams are going to overpay whether they need the player or not.

 

[Alexander]

I can see your point, but I prefer going the bridge player route and buying myself time to get the rookie defenders I draft this year to learn and get acclimated to the game.

Actually, I see them getting Ware as a "mentor" to players like Mayowa and then thinking all good and not prioritizing the position in the draft. Just think, we can have Ware mentor until Randy Gregory comes back for the big playoff push. Yeah, that is the ticket.

 

[Nightman]

Ware being a broken down declining player isn't an opinion.

Ware only had 10, 7.5 and 4 sacks for DEN and 30m....he was no bargain and we don't have a Von Miller

Mayowa had 6 sacks last year for 2m

 

[waldoputty]

The Chargers website and ESPN both have him listed at 6'2" and 247 lbs. Seems like the Chargers' website would know his weight.

i see what you said.

but when i google, i get:
Melvin Ingram
Football player
Melvin Ingram is an American football linebacker for the Los Angeles Chargers of the National Football League. He played college football for the University of South Carolina, and earned All-American honors. Wikipedia

Born: April 26, 1989 (age 27 years), Hamlet, NC
Height: 6′ 2″
Weight: 265 lbs

 

[Sydla]

I see both Ingram and Nick Perry as 'contract guys'. Both disappointed for several years and finally had good season right before it was time to get paid.

I have the feeling that both of them will be vastly overpaid and have their new teams soon regretting it when they trend back to the guys they've been in the past.

At least with Perry, he'll be more affordable than Ingram. Ingram is everyone's hot sliced bread it seems.

 

[waldoputty]

a lot of posters are making sense. but first we need to have the discussion "Will Dallas change the way it sees FA due to the fact they are so close to the SB" I think we need to address the issue, is this team 1 or 2 players away from a SB hunt , or do we need to scrap a lot of players and just get blue chippers to fill the need and understand we are giving up on the SB yet again. I think this FA is highly needed for 1 or 2 players for 2 reasons. we should make a hard run at the SB and 2 a lot of teams are going to overpay whether they need the player or not.

the cowboys are not stupid, and we were not 13-3 for nothing.
think about this, in the last 3 years, we have records of 13-3 and 12-4 when the QB was healthy for the season.
that is inspite of the D.

FO thinks Jaylon is healthy, and they darn well know they need the war daddy for the DL.
jerry jones said so himself.
you know they can taste probably better than we can.

it is not just the war daddy for the DL, do you sign Mo or sign a more reliable CB?
do you left Free be the turnstile or try to get someone better - his $5M cap hit in 2017 can easily bring in a better RT in a 5 year contract.
do you resign TWill or get a WR2 that catches with his hands for 2M more per year.

 

[Verdict]

The salary cap is a complete fallacy. Any needed room could be created. They could sign 10 Ingrams if they really wanted to.

I don't mean this with any disrespect buy I will have some of whatever you are smoking, because it is really great stuff. They would put a picture of that beside the definition of "cap hell".

 

[Sydla]

I agree, but I think this might be different.

In recent years, there hasn't been that one clean free agent that very directly addresses an area of need that would make a big impact.

Ingram is that kind of player. He's exactly what Dallas needs, along with a healthy defensive draft.

Imagine adding Ingram, an Alabama defensive lineman, and Jaylon Smith to the front 7.

They are not spending $14-17MM or so on an edge player. They simply are not.

 

[waldoputty]

I don't mean this with any disrespect buy I will have some of whatever you are smoking, because it is really great stuff. They would put a picture of that beside the definition of "cap hell".

we cannot afford 10 ingrams, but we could afford 3.
cap hell would then happen in about 2021/2022 for 1 year which would be needed to reset the cap.
not a bad price in exchange for blissful heaven for 2017-2020.