Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott should give Jerry Jones an ultimatum

[Captain-Crash]

 

[Cowboys5217]

According to Broddus (hopefully, I spelled his name right), Stephen basically runs a lot of the operations anyway (from a video I watched from him, not sure I can post the video here). Maybe him getting the HC and QB demanding more talent around them can wake him up that what he's doing isn't working.

Broaddus is full of it and trying to sell next year's narrative. Jerry runs things just as much as he always has. The clue to this is that nothing has changed as far as the results each season go.

Trying to gaslight people into thinking Jerry isn't running things is to sell false hope for next year, and is a denial cope for some others.

It's all nonsense. Jerry is Al Davis 2.0.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I was in business for 40 years. Employees giving their rich boss ultimatums doesn't usually end well for the employees. The boss just finds new employees.

Working at McDonalds is a bit different than working as a professional athlete.

 

[Swagger]

Dak's career win % is higher than Troy's and Tony's.

With different teams in a different era - where's the relevance...

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Mike and Dak are getting paid. Mike isn't going to retire or willlingly enter the unemployment line. He probably knows this is his last HC gig. Dak is working on his contract extension, which is his main priority.

I think Mike could get another HC job after this stop. I think his records of late would get him another chance if he wanted it. As for Dak, I think his priority should be getting a SB and setting his contract up for one. The question is, does the FO have the commitment to win a SB?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I agree, but that's what over half our fans wanted. They said Zeke is done give Pollard Zeke's carries and we'll be fine!!. Guess not

Yup, and, surprise, it didn't work. And, as cool as it was to get Vaughn, they basically got him to play Pollard's role. Could've gotten a RB round 2 like the one the Seahawks got. Oh well

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

How many times does it have to be explained that if you pay a QB top dollar, you HAVE to go cheap at other positions on the roster?

The argument has been made and proven true that an NFL team is better off building a great overall roster with a QB on a rookie pay scale...

As long as Dak is being top dollar, we have no choice but to go cheap at the "lesser" positions such as LB and RB.

It's mind boggling how some fans can't understand this concept and this is the main reason we argued that paying a QB like Dak top dollar was foolish because he will never be able to overcome the weaknesses his salary creates on our roster.

Who says that Dak takes a personal friendly contract? If he's going to take a deal, which should be team friendly, then he needs a commitment. He had a personal friendly contract the first go around. His second contract should be team friendly IF Jerry commits to winning a Super Bowl. If Jerry doesn't give him that commitment, then his next personal friendly contract should come from another team.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

How many all pros does Dak need to win? 8 isn't enough? Lol

A massive upgrade at RB and LB would be a good starting place. Stop playing safeties at linebacker, and maybe we can have more luck at stopping running backs like Cook, CMC, and Jones. Maybe we can finally stop a Tush Push.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Broaddus is full of it and trying to sell next year's narrative. Jerry runs things just as much as he always has. The clue to this is that nothing has changed as far as the results each season go.

Trying to gaslight people into thinking Jerry isn't running things is to sell false hope for next year, and is a denial cope for some others.

It's all nonsense. Jerry is Al Davis 2.0.

True, but, tbf, the players and coaches need a commitment from Jerry before they sign any new deals from them. Maybe if Jerry sees key players demanding a commitment before they resign, he might actually go all in.

 

[StuckMojo]

Perhaps, but I am sure they'd probably like to know Jerry's level of commitment this year. Dak especially if he's going to sign an extension.

If Dak wants to be paid highest in NFL history then he’s not committed to winning and if JJ signs him to that kind of contract then he’s not committed to winning.

 

[diamonddelts]

Can someone please sum this up lol

Exactly. Cliffs Notes please.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

If Dak wants to be paid highest in NFL history then he’s not committed to winning and if JJ signs him to that kind of contract then he’s not committed to winning.

I agree with you. I think it should be a team friendly deal if he is committed to winning a SB. However, if Jerry doesn't commit to that entering negotiations, then Dak should go elsewhere to a team that actually knows how to manipulate the cap and can win him a Super Bowl.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Exactly. Cliffs Notes please.

If Jerry wants McCarthy and Dak to stay, then he needs to commit to winning a SB (assuming Dak is going to take a team friendly deals). If not, then the two of them need to find deals elsewhere.

 

[nate dizzle]

I should note that a good portion of this OP is not my original idea. I got a decent amount of this as a posting idea while watching Mark Holmes' channel while working today. He had a video about Dak and Mike McCarthy that got me thinking, and I will expound upon what he said.

Basically, the notion is that Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott should give Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones an ultimatum. I'll expound upon this here. Mike McCarthy is being set up to fail when you look at Stephen's risk aversion. As we all know, there's this stupid notion that our FO has of "we like our guys". When you look at our draft picks and you look at the holes likely to be opened as a result of players we are likely to lose in FA, trying to get this team in 2024 to be competitive will be a very difficult task. Even worse, here's our likely opponents next year (besides our division rivals, which is obvious): Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Houston, Detroit, San Francisco, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, and Carolina. Aside from Carolina, this is going to likely be a tough schedule. Oh, and we were lucky to get 12 wins when you look at our lack of a running game, which was bloody obvious entering the season. Jerry gave McCarthy a tough task with that, and McCarthy helped Dak to become a better QB (in the regular season) this season than last year. He guides our team to 12 wins. Under a coach like Jason Garrett, the roster last year with the schedule we had likely lands us 8-9 wins. Now, Jerry is setting McCarthy up for what will likely be a rough year. I think McCarthy should kick down the door of the FO and tell them to either (and MH gave a similar take) to either go all in and build him a championship roster, or sack him/let him part ways right now. Tell them, either give him a roster that can give him a chance to win now, or let me go. To paraphrase a MeatLoaf line, ask Jerry, "What's it going to be, boy? Yes or no? I can wait all night". Ask Jerry, does he believe that McCarthy can win a Super Bowl this year if given the right roster. If it's yes, then do everything in their power to build a roster that McCarthy needs to win a championship. It the answer is no, then McCarthy should tell them to find a new coach. As for those fans that want McCarthy gone, just a heads up, you may not like who Jerry/Stephen choose next. Chances are, it'll be a Garrett-style puppet.

As for Dak, he should absolutely be furious about some of the comments that have been in the media of late. Especially given that it seems that CeeDee hasn't come out after what his mum said to back him, despite the fact that Dak was the one who threw Lamb the ball to set the records that he set this year. The way the media has been excoriating him, and the way the FO hasn't exactly come to his defence, despite how many times he's gone to the mat for them. Dak should really go into the FO and tell them that, if they want an extension, then give him a roster (especially at RB, lb, and oline) that can give him a better chance to win a Super Bowl. Tell them that, if they want a deal, then give him a roster that he can use. Otherwise, they can either June 1 cut him, he might direct them to a trade, or he will just take the cap hit this year, and be on his way next year. Tell them that he wants a Super Bowl and wants a roster that he can win with in his and McCarthy's view (since they're seemingly close with each other). For those of you that want a new QB, I caution you. The replacement may not be great. Remember from Aikman to Romo. However, with the way the FO has treated Mike and Dak, they need to tell the FO that they want a commitment to build a true championship contender, or they will either leave this offseason or after this season.

This is NOT to say that I want either gone. I like both. However, I think the way they are treated is appalling and isn't normally done on any other team but ours. If the FO, like some on here seems to want, wants to keep treating them like this. Then maybe it's time we see what it'll be like without them. For those of you who have animosity towards Dak, just remember. Andy Dalton showed that finding a top QB isn't as easy as it seems. I would hope we can draft a good replacement if it comes to it, but I'm not sure I trust Jerry's acumen when it comes to QB selections. But, at the same time, these two men should really push the issue at Jerry. Tell him to go in, or lose them both. Maybe that'll get Jerry/Stephen's attention enough to actually try to win a Super Bowl this year.

Lol I am 100% behind this scenario playing out. Oh God please let this happen.

 

[Jarv]

I should note that a good portion of this OP is not my original idea. I got a decent amount of this as a posting idea while watching Mark Holmes' channel while working today. He had a video about Dak and Mike McCarthy that got me thinking, and I will expound upon what he said.

Basically, the notion is that Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott should give Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones an ultimatum. I'll expound upon this here. Mike McCarthy is being set up to fail when you look at Stephen's risk aversion. As we all know, there's this stupid notion that our FO has of "we like our guys". When you look at our draft picks and you look at the holes likely to be opened as a result of players we are likely to lose in FA, trying to get this team in 2024 to be competitive will be a very difficult task. Even worse, here's our likely opponents next year (besides our division rivals, which is obvious): Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Houston, Detroit, San Francisco, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, and Carolina. Aside from Carolina, this is going to likely be a tough schedule. Oh, and we were lucky to get 12 wins when you look at our lack of a running game, which was bloody obvious entering the season. Jerry gave McCarthy a tough task with that, and McCarthy helped Dak to become a better QB (in the regular season) this season than last year. He guides our team to 12 wins. Under a coach like Jason Garrett, the roster last year with the schedule we had likely lands us 8-9 wins. Now, Jerry is setting McCarthy up for what will likely be a rough year. I think McCarthy should kick down the door of the FO and tell them to either (and MH gave a similar take) to either go all in and build him a championship roster, or sack him/let him part ways right now. Tell them, either give him a roster that can give him a chance to win now, or let me go. To paraphrase a MeatLoaf line, ask Jerry, "What's it going to be, boy? Yes or no? I can wait all night". Ask Jerry, does he believe that McCarthy can win a Super Bowl this year if given the right roster. If it's yes, then do everything in their power to build a roster that McCarthy needs to win a championship. It the answer is no, then McCarthy should tell them to find a new coach. As for those fans that want McCarthy gone, just a heads up, you may not like who Jerry/Stephen choose next. Chances are, it'll be a Garrett-style puppet.

As for Dak, he should absolutely be furious about some of the comments that have been in the media of late. Especially given that it seems that CeeDee hasn't come out after what his mum said to back him, despite the fact that Dak was the one who threw Lamb the ball to set the records that he set this year. The way the media has been excoriating him, and the way the FO hasn't exactly come to his defence, despite how many times he's gone to the mat for them. Dak should really go into the FO and tell them that, if they want an extension, then give him a roster (especially at RB, lb, and oline) that can give him a better chance to win a Super Bowl. Tell them that, if they want a deal, then give him a roster that he can use. Otherwise, they can either June 1 cut him, he might direct them to a trade, or he will just take the cap hit this year, and be on his way next year. Tell them that he wants a Super Bowl and wants a roster that he can win with in his and McCarthy's view (since they're seemingly close with each other). For those of you that want a new QB, I caution you. The replacement may not be great. Remember from Aikman to Romo. However, with the way the FO has treated Mike and Dak, they need to tell the FO that they want a commitment to build a true championship contender, or they will either leave this offseason or after this season.

This is NOT to say that I want either gone. I like both. However, I think the way they are treated is appalling and isn't normally done on any other team but ours. If the FO, like some on here seems to want, wants to keep treating them like this. Then maybe it's time we see what it'll be like without them. For those of you who have animosity towards Dak, just remember. Andy Dalton showed that finding a top QB isn't as easy as it seems. I would hope we can draft a good replacement if it comes to it, but I'm not sure I trust Jerry's acumen when it comes to QB selections. But, at the same time, these two men should really push the issue at Jerry. Tell him to go in, or lose them both. Maybe that'll get Jerry/Stephen's attention enough to actually try to win a Super Bowl this year.

The FO won't go all in so I'm with you, Dak should demand a trade or release. It's only fair to him to show another team what a champion he us...with their money of course.

 

[Jarv]

Dak's current cap hit and contract situation actually gives him a lot of leverage. If either is going to lead this, Dak's the one. He needs to tell Jerry that, if he wants a team friendly deals, then Dak needs a commitment that Jerry will build him a roster capable of winning the Super Bowl.

So in telling Jerry to build a roster good enough to win a superbowl he would in essence have to tell Jerry to replace him as a playoff choker?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Sure, basically, Mike and Dak should tell the FO to either give them a team around them to compete, or part ways with them. In Mike's case, retire or enter the pool for job searches as teams would be bound to want him. As for Dak, no new team friendly deals without a clear commitment from the FO that they're serious about winning. If they're not serious about winning, then let him go somewhere where the FO cares about winning.

How many All-Pros and pro Bowlers did we have again?

The team that dog walked us in the playoffs had zero.

 

[The Fonz]

Sure, basically, Mike and Dak should tell the FO to either give them a team around them to compete, or part ways with them. In Mike's case, retire or enter the pool for job searches as teams would be bound to want him. As for Dak, no new team friendly deals without a clear commitment from the FO that they're serious about winning. If they're not serious about winning, then let him go somewhere where the FO cares about winning.

They are getting paid a lot of money why would they care?

 

[mardwin]

Sure, basically, Mike and Dak should tell the FO to either give them a team around them to compete, or part ways with them. In Mike's case, retire or enter the pool for job searches as teams would be bound to want him. As for Dak, no new team friendly deals without a clear commitment from the FO that they're serious about winning. If they're not serious about winning, then let him go somewhere where the FO cares about winning.

They should start by giving the HC a real QB that will come through in clutch moments.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Can someone please sum this up lol

Sure.

Dak should go to Jerruh and DEMAND a team he can win with.

Because...as we all know.....the rest of the team held Dak back.

Again.

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