Misplaced Linehan Rage

[Roadtrip635]

They were playing the whole bend but don’t break. No aggressive stuff after the first quarter.

That's actually what this defense has been all season and it finally caught up with them.

 

[glimmerman]

That's actually what this defense has been all season and it finally caught up with them.

Last night was ugly. When the pressure don’t get there we get picked apart. This is after he had been sacked 11 times the week before. I just knew we would get about 6 or 7 ourselves.

 

[ClintDagger]

I reckon that to be the right choice. Firstly, we don't have a 1st rounder sadly, so we're not likely to get a high QB (though, Thornson of Northwestern wouldn't be a bad 3rd round option). So that sort of does force the next coach to see what we have in Dak. If he's a lost cause, then no worries. Do what we need to do to get Tua in 2020 if that's the case. If Dak returns to his 2016 form, then we found the solution.

I can live with that. I agree that there isn’t a clear 2019 option. No thanks on Bridgewater. I don’t think he’s a franchise guy either. Aiming at a guy in 2020 is probably the sound move but it’s sad that this team is now several years away again after feeling like there was real hope after ‘16.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Last night was ugly. When the pressure don’t get there we get picked apart. This is after he had been sacked 11 times the week before. I just knew we would get about 6 or 7 ourselves.

To be fair, the pressure seems to be what this defence lives off of, which makes it even more mind boggling that we didn't get a proper 1 tech in the draft. With that being said, Ross has looked outstanding so far.

 

[Bull Frog]

Look up Liinehan's career coaching stats. Teams regress year after year everywhere he's been.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I can live with that. I agree that there isn’t a clear 2019 option. No thanks on Bridgewater. I don’t think he’s a franchise guy either. Aiming at a guy in 2020 is probably the sound move but it’s sad that this team is now several years away again after feeling like there was real hope after ‘16.

Honestly, I think it might just be a case of poor coaching. I think we'll feel that hope again just with a change in the style of offence being used. I'd even be intrigued if we got Norv Turner to be HC, who has a history here. Let me ask you something because I was born in December of 1992, so I never got to see Norv as our OC. Was there much of a drop off between when he was here as the OC and when he moved to wherever he went next?

 

[Gator88]

He was being nice. Tony Romo would never, ever win the big game even with the perfect team. He was a small game QB only. He even said the biggest game of his career was a preseason game. Troy was a SB caliber QB.

Agree to disagree. Romo played good overall in big games with a few noticeable exceptions like all QBs. Troy's big games when he had a supporting cast similar to what any Dallas QB after him had were overall inferior to Romo's average performances in big games.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I dislike Garrett and Linehan as much as the next fan (if not more in the case of Garrett), but has anyone given thought that the offense (particularly the passing game) is oversimplified and predictable as a byproduct of the QB?

The reality is we don't have a guy with arm talent back there that's comfortable sitting in the pocket, making his progressions and throwing receivers open.

Instead, our passing game is stripped down to predominantly quick reads, comeback routes where a receiver is running to a spot waiting for the ball.

I would also add if your QB has to be rolled-out or use PA to try to create throwing windows and separation for receivers so your QB can feel comfortable making a throw, you're severely handicapping your offense.

I want Garrett and Linehan gone today, but replacing him doesn't make Dak more accurate, poised or savvy.

Two things can be equally true: 1) Garrett and Linehan are part of the problem and 2) Dak is not the answer

Looks like the rest of the board already put you in your place.

 

[ClintDagger]

Honestly, I think it might just be a case of poor coaching. I think we'll feel that hope again just with a change in the style of offence being used. I'd even be intrigued if we got Norv Turner to be HC, who has a history here. Let me ask you something because I was born in December of 1992, so I never got to see Norv as our OC. Was there much of a drop off between when he was here as the OC and when he moved to wherever he went next?

I was pretty young then too. Not as young as you but too young to think about what his departure meant. Looking at the stats it appears the team stayed right where they were in the two seasons after he left and then in ‘96 the bottom fell out.

 

[glimmerman]

To be fair, the pressure seems to be what this defence lives off of, which makes it even more mind boggling that we didn't get a proper 1 tech in the draft. With that being said, Ross has looked outstanding so far.

Got him a sack. I was happy with him.

 

[CouchCoach]

I dislike Garrett and Linehan as much as the next fan (if not more in the case of Garrett), but has anyone given thought that the offense (particularly the passing game) is oversimplified and predictable as a byproduct of the QB?

The reality is we don't have a guy with arm talent back there that's comfortable sitting in the pocket, making his progressions and throwing receivers open.

Instead, our passing game is stripped down to predominantly quick reads, comeback routes where a receiver is running to a spot waiting for the ball.

I would also add if your QB has to be rolled-out or use PA to try to create throwing windows and separation for receivers so your QB can feel comfortable making a throw, you're severely handicapping your offense.

I want Garrett and Linehan gone today, but replacing him doesn't make Dak more accurate, poised or savvy.

Two things can be equally true: 1) Garrett and Linehan are part of the problem and 2) Dak is not the answer

I've wondered about that from the get go because in 2016 all he had to do was execute the plays, the run game caught the other teams off guard and it was too late once the season was underway to counter it.

I've seen many want them to turn Dak loose but we do not see him at practice, we do not see the throws and I don't think Linehan has the confidence to turn him loose because this offense has not proven they are a resilient one.

The only two things I took from All or Nothing were Booger's involvement seemed more than I had originally thought and the expression on Garrett's face after that little catch game he had with Prescott was very telling about how he felt.

The fact is neither Garrett, Linehan nor Prescott have proven they're the real deal.

 

[blueblood70]

not misplaced fire them all

 

[CowboysDrew]

I don't remember Linehan ever being good at any point in his career. He didn't light the world on fire in Miami, St. Louis or Detroit either. He had his most success in Detroit, but he also had Stafford and Megatron to work with, and they still posted losing seasons that ended up getting him fired.

I honestly am surprised with as little success as he's had, that he keeps getting employed.

 

[Philmonroe]

Did anyone not see the debacle of the other QBs not named Tony trying to run this offense?

Our system has been called predictable by opposing defenses for 8+ years and will continue to be called that until we make a serious change. Some people are working overtime to blame Dak for an offensive system that stopped working in 1995.

Why do you and others keep with this have you saw the other qbs like we had Brady, Brees, and Rodgers types under center. When y'all say this it makes y'all look like you just say anything you heard others parrot with no actual investigation on the statements themselves. Our other qbs were junk and the one player that was worth a dang did something in this offense. Go figure and that's not even to defend Garrett but we have to compare good qbs to good qbs not throw numbers out there with no context to them.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Looks like the rest of the board already put you in your place.

Sorry, did you get tires of talking about your imaginary wife lonely guy?

 

[CouchCoach]

Honestly, I think it might just be a case of poor coaching. I think we'll feel that hope again just with a change in the style of offence being used. I'd even be intrigued if we got Norv Turner to be HC, who has a history here. Let me ask you something because I was born in December of 1992, so I never got to see Norv as our OC. Was there much of a drop off between when he was here as the OC and when he moved to wherever he went next?

Turner is from the Zampesi coaching tree and the magic of the passing game was what you see very little of today as Aikman pointed out on Sunday, the timing based pass game. That takes a very accurate QB with zip and touch, exact pass route running and complete trust between the QB and his WR's. Many times the ball is released before the receiver has even gone into his cut.

Back then, you'd see the ball come out from behind Aikman and it looked like a pick for sure until the WR, Irvin most of the time, made his cut in front of the DB. The reason Irvin pushed off to the point of the refs resurrecting the enforcement of the rule was to get to the receiving point on time.

Once that offense was installed and instilled, it could continue until that had to change out the players. Turner's best attribute to me was the inability of the DC's to play him. They'd go 8 in the box to stop Emmitt and Turner wouldn't always react to that and some of Emmitt's longest runs were against stacked boxes. His goal was to run the ball and he was very effective at using the pass to get that done.

But as good an OC as Turner was, and as good a DC as Wannstadt was, they could never recreate what they did with those teams because the talent level was never as good. That 92-95 team was the perfect storm of coaches and players, which is why if they'd won that 94 game against the Niners that would be considered the GOAT.

I wouldn't mind Norv replacing Garrett. Garrett only has the F word to use, Norv has the full compliment and is a cussing legend.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Last night was ugly. When the pressure don’t get there we get picked apart. This is after he had been sacked 11 times the week before. I just knew we would get about 6 or 7 ourselves.

Our defense is middle of the pack in pressuring the QB. Remember how we thought we would get all this pressure on Wilson? The Seahawks were near the bottom in allowing sacks and pressure before we played them and also had a anemic running game. We didn't pressure Wilson and their run game was very effective that game.

Everybody kept pointing to being #2 in scoring defense, but that wasn't going to last when you look at other stats for the defense. We're middle of the pack in getting pressure and sacks. Near the bottom in creating turnovers. The more telling stats is about our pass defense, we are 5th worst in QB completion rate at 68% and 6th worse in opposing QB Rating at 98.6. Eventually, the defense will break with those kinds of trends, like we saw last night. Until we can get more pressure, this defense will be giving up more and more points as the season goes on. Just like our offense, there is tape out on our defense and teams will exploit those weaknesses.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Last night, the first couple of drives were with pace and efficient, and they went right down the field with short quick passes and running plays. Once the scripted plays were over, it was back to the same bland offense that these two bozos are know for. They never went back to it until it was too late.... Witten mentioned it on the broadcast.

 

[Bullflop]

I can easily picture Jerry replacing Linehan in the offseason without doing the same with Garrett. To me, that would be like a surgeon extracting half of a malignant cancer from a patient, only to leave the remainder of the cancer to metastasize. Sorry to say, it seems possible that Jerry might well decide to keep the loser that he feels the most "comfortable" with. Perish the thought!
Wouldn't that be something special to look forward to!
Here's hoping both would get the axe, if anyone at all!

 

[BLEU3ASY]

This offense has been bland for a long time, way before Dak was on the team. Luckily Romo was a master magician and he made it look workable. Dak either doesn't have it or he hasn't figured it out yet, but we know that this was in place before he got here. If you see it any other way then you have an agenda.. ijs