Misplaced Linehan Rage

Mr Cowboy

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Another thing why are the opposing WRs always running wide open when they make a catch against out defense. The only one that ever challenges WRs is Jones. I bet Dak sees that and wishes his WRs were open by a mile every time he has to throw.
 

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They have no one to coach him up. At least Romo had Parcels throwing out pointers and criticism. All Garrett does is clap if you screw up and clap more if you do good. There's no coaching, no communication, and no interaction whatsoever. Who the heck is stepping to help the kid or point out problem areas when he flubs up?

With all due respect, and I want Garrett to go too, but do you really think all Garrett does is clap? I am sure there is communication and "coaching". After all, Garrett was a very good backup QB in this league and he played behind some fine QBs (Aikman, Johnson and Maybe Collins). The idea that this coaching staff does nothing is absurd. Sure, they are missing chemistry and an effective offensive scheme, but I don't believe they just sit on their hands.
 

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I dislike Garrett and Linehan as much as the next fan (if not more in the case of Garrett), but has anyone given thought that the offense (particularly the passing game) is oversimplified and predictable as a byproduct of the QB?

The reality is we don't have a guy with arm talent back there that's comfortable sitting in the pocket, making his progressions and throwing receivers open.

Instead, our passing game is stripped down to predominantly quick reads, comeback routes where a receiver is running to a spot waiting for the ball.

I would also add if your QB has to be rolled-out or use PA to try to create throwing windows and separation for receivers so your QB can feel comfortable making a throw, you're severely handicapping your offense.

I want Garrett and Linehan gone today, but replacing him doesn't make Dak more accurate, poised or savvy.

Two things can be equally true: 1) Garrett and Linehan are part of the problem and 2) Dak is not the answer
CalPolyTech----- I totally agree firmly with every one of the points you made
 

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I dislike Garrett and Linehan as much as the next fan (if not more in the case of Garrett), but has anyone given thought that the offense (particularly the passing game) is oversimplified and predictable as a byproduct of the QB?

The reality is we don't have a guy with arm talent back there that's comfortable sitting in the pocket, making his progressions and throwing receivers open.

Instead, our passing game is stripped down to predominantly quick reads, comeback routes where a receiver is running to a spot waiting for the ball.

I would also add if your QB has to be rolled-out or use PA to try to create throwing windows and separation for receivers so your QB can feel comfortable making a throw, you're severely handicapping your offense.

I want Garrett and Linehan gone today, but replacing him doesn't make Dak more accurate, poised or savvy.

Two things can be equally true: 1) Garrett and Linehan are part of the problem and 2) Dak is not the answer
its a combination of all of the above. the system requires good execution. with Romo, witten and at some level Dez we had that....we built a good OL and had the RB.....

Dak is not consistent passing from the pocket and everyone wants to run him, but that's not a formula for long term success and as we saw last night Titans were able to easily manage and control his running.

and the coaches haven't been able to adjust the system to fit Dak....

the coaches aren't great. dak isn't great. the OL is not having a good year and it all snow balls.....
 

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Whatever Dak is, that dosen't excuse the absurdity of running on every first down and not using Dak on the read option when it has repeadedly worked in prior games when the game and season clearly needed it and called for it.

Newton has looked immensely better with a new OC. No reason we should not see if that can help here.
wait wait wait...after seattle game people were complaining we don't run enough on first downs...now its we run too much on first downs...which is it?
 

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Romo had a mastery of the offense and the uncommon ability to read defenses and adjust.

His best and most efficient seasons were in his 30s when he was far less mobile.

he did but remember when he changed the play, Garrett threw him under the bus. Romo just didn't care anymore and knew that in a choice between Garrett and him, he would win.

Dak doesn't have the cred to win such a battle. He will run the bad play because failing will rile the fans up but his coach won't tear him a new one.

Clap clap clap
 

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wait wait wait...after seattle game people were complaining we don't run enough on first downs...now its we run too much on first downs...which is it?
yes he has no balance..we dont run enough on 1st downs when it surprises people or on the Muther Fn goal line.. the throws inside th 5 have wore me out.. Emmitt made his living getting the last 12345 yards for score.. Zeke could but Scot FN Linsanity has no idea , he gets cute this is what happens.. you dont abandon running on all 1st downs but he runs on 1st down more then anyone in the league..
 

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Better coaching and playcalling could bring the best out of dak. We dont have arod or brady, we have dak. They need to realize this and create and offense that works with the tools that dak has. There are enough pieces around him to be successful.
 

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Whatever Dak is, that dosen't excuse the absurdity of running on every first down and not using Dak on the read option when it has repeadedly worked in prior games when the game and season clearly needed it and called for it.

Newton has looked immensely better with a new OC. No reason we should not see if that can help here.
It should have happened after last years season ending debacle. With a new innovative coaching staff, we would be one year closer to finding out if Dak is the answer. Now we will extend him without knowing if we need to invest in another QB or not.
 

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Romo had a mastery of the offense and the uncommon ability to read defenses and adjust.

His best and most efficient seasons were in his 30s when he was far less mobile.
And a seasoned vet,Dak is in year 3.
 

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If there was ever a time to recycle a coach maybe they should have gotten Norv before Carolina? Cam seems to be getting plays that suit his style just fine. Norv's not even running the same offense he did in the 90s like Garrett/Linehan is attempting. I just feel like Dak deserves an opportunity to get coached and improved. Being stuck in an out dated predictable offense is not going to make him progress. If we are talking mechanics and things of that nature are we really convinced that Moore is the answer to get that right? I'd like to see him get a shot with a progressive offensive mind, and someone that can get his pocket presence back to where he was in 2016.
 

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Why do you and others keep with this have you saw the other qbs like we had Brady, Brees, and Rodgers types under center. When y'all say this it makes y'all look like you just say anything you heard others parrot with no actual investigation on the statements themselves. Our other qbs were junk and the one player that was worth a dang did something in this offense. Go figure and that's not even to defend Garrett but we have to compare good qbs to good qbs not throw numbers out there with no context to them.

Marcus Mariota just whooped us. Mitch Trubisky is 5-3. Andy Dalton is 5-3. Shall I go on? Getting tired of my fellow Cowboys fans complaining that we don't have a pro bowl QB. Garrett has 8+ years of being unable to get the job done. No more excuses they're getting old.
 

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People forget the QB is in his third year. No QBs are tearing it up in year 3. No QB is HOF level or elite in year 3. They are all still learning. The lucky ones have coaches who understand that and put the player in position to succeed. Our coaches stubbornly don’t do that. They aggressively stick to what they want to do which is the opposite of good coaching. Good coaching works with the talent on hand.

Also, anyone who is quick to say Carson Wentz is elite...or Jared Goff is elite...or Pat Mahomes is the MVP isn’t watching them play. These guys make mistakes. The difference is margin of error. They don’t have to succeed is spite of their coaches. Their coaches actually put them in position to succeed with their play calling and game planning. They coach them to their strengths.

These coaches need to go. They are ill suited for their jobs and prove it on a weekly basis.
 

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Our defense is middle of the pack in pressuring the QB. Remember how we thought we would get all this pressure on Wilson? The Seahawks were near the bottom in allowing sacks and pressure before we played them and also had a anemic running game. We didn't pressure Wilson and their run game was very effective that game.

Everybody kept pointing to being #2 in scoring defense, but that wasn't going to last when you look at other stats for the defense. We're middle of the pack in getting pressure and sacks. Near the bottom in creating turnovers. The more telling stats is about our pass defense, we are 5th worst in QB completion rate at 68% and 6th worse in opposing QB Rating at 98.6. Eventually, the defense will break with those kinds of trends, like we saw last night. Until we can get more pressure, this defense will be giving up more and more points as the season goes on. Just like our offense, there is tape out on our defense and teams will exploit those weaknesses.

Yep and when your offense is struggling teams will play us conservatively which makes us think our D is stout. The turnover issue has been a problem for Garrett for 7 of his 8 years and is frankly the stat that concerns me the most.
 

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its a combination of all of the above. the system requires good execution. with Romo, witten and at some level Dez we had that....we built a good OL and had the RB.....

Dak is not consistent passing from the pocket and everyone wants to run him, but that's not a formula for long term success and as we saw last night Titans were able to easily manage and control his running.

and the coaches haven't been able to adjust the system to fit Dak....

the coaches aren't great. dak isn't great. the OL is not having a good year and it all snow balls.....

Our "system" is predicated on our guys physically beating their guy. That system sucks. It's really that simple.
 

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Yep and when your offense is struggling teams will play us conservatively which makes us think our D is stout. The turnover issue has been a problem for Garrett for 7 of his 8 years and is frankly the stat that concerns me the most.
For me it's the inconsistent pressure. If we can create more pressure, the turnovers will come, the sacks will come, the pass completion percent comes down, opposing QB rating comes down. People keep saying we need a safety, what we really need is better pass rushers.
 
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