MM clock management is the worst in the NFL

[gimmesix]

This guy is an absolute bone head when it comes to managing the clock. That display was a total embarrassment.

I'm more bothered by his challenges. Do we not have someone watching video buzzing him on when to challenge? He seems to do it based off what he sees, which is not a smart way to go. For someone who says he's a big believer in technology (analytics), you think he'd base those decisions off as much evidence as he can get in a small window.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dallas had 3 timeouts when all of this started. They had full control to stop the clock if necessary.

You don't have to completely drain the clock, but you need to kill a decent chunk of it.

They were at the 4, not the 40.

Yes it was. There's no excuse for how it was handled. They got lucky.

They handled it correctly. They won. Are you not happy with a win. Enjoy it.
However, some fans will always find something to complain about.

Oh, we won if have not heard. Pittsburgh fans are wondering why Tomlin did not use his last TO to avoid the 10 second runoff.
Are you being critical of hi for that?

 

[gimmesix]

I am not sure what he does well as far as X's and O's. To his credit they played hard for him till the end.

I thought there were some pretty good play-calls on offense in this game. I thought not sneaking at the goal line was pretty dumb, though.

 

[Kevinicus]

They handled it correctly. They won. Are you not happy with a win. Enjoy it.
However, some fans will always find something to complain about.

Oh, we won if have not heard. Pittsburgh fans are wondering why Tomlin did not use his last TO to avoid the 10 second runoff.
Are you being critical of hi for that?

They handled it the exact opposite of how they should. They won. Like I said, they got lucky. They have ability. But they're dumb (players and coaches). With that combo, it often comes down to luck.
Being happy for a win does not mean you cannot discuss the things they did wrong. That's idiotic. A shameful attitude to have.

Yeah, I don't think Tomlin handled it very well either. LUCKY for us.

 

[Creeper]

Dallas called timeout after screen to Luepke. Incredibly stupid timeout. Then they rush the snap after the review when Dak was downed at the 1. He made numerous mistakes. In both halves

Overall I thought he called a decent game. I didn't like the rushed snap when the refs robbed Dallas of a first down on the pass to Brooks. It was less than a yard. Just line up normally and hand the ball to Zeke. If he can't get a couple of feet diving straight into the line then they don't deserve to win. I didn't like the challenge on the Fields fumble. I didn't think there was any chance they reverse that call.

I thought the last drive was well done all around. They took all be a few seconds off the clock while scoring the go ahead TD.

I'd like to call out our special teams coach though. Why is it every time we have a special teams play there is some kind of penalty for holding or something? It is almost pointless to try to run the ball back because chances are any run will be negated by a penalty.

 

[jazzcat22]

They handled it the exact opposite of how they should. They won. Like I said, they got lucky. They have ability. But they're dumb (players and coaches). With that combo, it often comes down to luck.
Being happy for a win does not mean you cannot discuss the things they did wrong. That's idiotic. A shameful attitude to have.

Yeah, I don't think Tomlin handled it very well either. LUCKY for us.

Really? And your take is not the same? IT IS.
Are you saying I am an idiot? That is a shameful attitude on you. You want to bring that into it, that IS NOT having a discussion.

There is a difference between a discussion and finding things to complain about on everything.

IT WAS handled in a good way. I stand by my explanation which you obviously ignored or refuse to take into consideration.

 

[Kevinicus]

Really? And your take is not the same? IT IS.
Are you saying I am an idiot? That is a shameful attitude on you. You want to bring that into it, that IS NOT having a discussion.

There is a difference between a discussion and finding things to complain about on everything.

IT WAS handled in a good way. I stand by my explanation which you obviously ignored or refuse to take into consideration.

No, my take is not the same.
It has a clear logic and consistency to it.

If you think being happy for a win means you cannot discuss any negatives, then yes, that means you have an idiotic take. Does that alone make you an idiot? No. Everyone has idiotic takes at some point.
This is a discussion, except for the people refusing to use any logic and only posting from emotion and trying to shut down discussion because they need a safe space from anything not pure homer glee.
It OBJECTIVELY was not handled in a good way.
Your explanation made zero logical sense, and is easily countered by the facts and reason.

 

[jazzcat22]

No, my take is not the same.
It has a clear logic and consistency to it.

If you think being happy for a win means you cannot discuss any negatives, then yes, that means you have an idiotic take. Does that alone make you an idiot? No. Everyone has idiotic takes at some point.
This is a discussion, except for the people refusing to use any logic and only posting from emotion and trying to shut down discussion because they need a safe space from anything not pure homer glee.
It OBJECTIVELY was not handled in a good way.
Your explanation made zero logical sense, and is easily countered by the facts and reason.

I stopped reading here.
As your take is idiotic as well.

 

[aikemirv]

Really? And your take is not the same? IT IS.
Are you saying I am an idiot? That is a shameful attitude on you. You want to bring that into it, that IS NOT having a discussion.

There is a difference between a discussion and finding things to complain about on everything.

IT WAS handled in a good way. I stand by my explanation which you obviously ignored or refuse to take into consideration.

I think you are perfectly fine with 30 seconds to go and 2 timeouts. That is a great situation from the 4 yard line. That gives you the comfort of scoring on 1st down or having to throw a pass on just one of the next 2 plays which you would normally do anyway. That is the smart way to play it and not give the other team time to score. 4th down can then be a run or pass - does not matter

 

[Kevinicus]

I stopped reading here.
As your take is idiotic as well.

You can say that all you want, but you don't have ANY support for that claim.
And you kind of prove mine with that attitude.

 

[kumizi]

Ask any Green Bay fan. He's been known for poor clock management for a decade.

In this thread, Cowboys fans displaying their lack of football knowledge. It's a very results oriented fanbase. That timeout he took when it was 1st and goal I think was inexcusable. If the Cowboys score on 1st down, the Steeler would've had a bunch of time to tie it. Fortunately for him, it took all four downs for the Cowboys to score.

 

[Cabrito]

Genius Tomlin called his last timeout, giving Tolbert enough time to heal his nutsack and make the winning touchdown. Tolbert had to come off because he couldn’t run.

 

[gimmesix]

They handled it the exact opposite of how they should. They won. Like I said, they got lucky. They have ability. But they're dumb (players and coaches). With that combo, it often comes down to luck.
Being happy for a win does not mean you cannot discuss the things they did wrong. That's idiotic. A shameful attitude to have.

Yeah, I don't think Tomlin handled it very well either. LUCKY for us.

I do like that Fassel appeared to be telling McCarthy to kick it after Pittsburgh jumped offsides on the extra point and we had the option of getting the ball at the 1 for a two-point try. It appeared that McCarthy was considering it for a moment but Fassel jumped right in there. I don't think McCarthy would have gone for two anyway, but good to see his coaches reminding him that the time constraints made it unlikely Pittsburgh could get more than a FG try at best.

 

[jazzcat22]

You can say that all you want, but you don't have ANY support for that claim.
And you kind of prove mine with that attitude.

No you proved mine. You brought it up. So just stop, as you have proved nothing, since you threw out the insults.

 

[JBS]

Exactly - that's the whole point- what if you scored the next play? They could have let the clock run to 30 and call a timeout. Then worst case happens is Steelers get the ball with 25 seconds. We bundled the next 4 downs so bad that the Steelers ended up getting the ball with 15 seconds but that does not make the idiocy correct!

Precisely how it went down. It was a total mess of clock management. Glad somebody in here understands what happened

 

[Kevinicus]

No you proved mine. You brought it up. So just stop, as you have proved nothing, since you threw out the insults.

Brought what up? You brought up the idea of shutting people down for trying to discuss something you didn't want to hear about. I just called you out on it.

It wasn't an insult. Try again.

 

[Established1971]

Dallas called timeout after screen to Luepke. Incredibly stupid timeout. Then they rush the snap after the review when Dak was downed at the 1. He made numerous mistakes. In both halves

what? You mean you were worried that the Steelers would have too much time to score after we did? The difference was going to be nominal, either way they were going to have very little time to try and we did had to make sure we scored, that was the priority. As it is we barely scored at the end, barely. I think McCarthy has the bad time management rep and people just look for this some more to complain more.

 

[CowboysRule]

He did not. He lucked into it.

If they hadn't botched things, and Pit hadn't called a TO with a dead ball before 4th down, the Steelers would have had plenty of time.

If Dak scores on 1st down, they have nearly 50 seconds and a TO. If Dowdle scores on 2nd, about 30 and a timeout.

Dallas had timeouts. They did not need time. The Steelers did. Yet it was Dallas stopping the clock and rushing plays.

So you're saying what I said was not true?

 

[mmohican29]

Dallas called timeout after screen to Luepke. Incredibly stupid timeout. Then they rush the snap after the review when Dak was downed at the 1. He made numerous mistakes. In both halves

That was inexplicable. Outside of the Luepke catch/run however: not sure these were MM's fault. Seemed Dak was antsy a few times.

 

[jazzcat22]

That was inexplicable. Outside of the Luepke catch/run however: not sure these were MM's fault. Seemed Dak was antsy a few times.

Which is why they needed to call the TO at that point.

In 2 previous plays when they tried to hurry the snap. Dak threw an INT and he fumbled.
MM did the right thing. To settle him and the offense down. Time to reset and make sure they did the right thing.
If they did not try to hurry those plays, those 2 turnovers most likely would not have happened.

However, out couch and basement fans think they know better.
The objective was to get the TD. Not to care if the Steelers had 15 seconds or 25 seconds on the clock. The way the defense was playing, the odds were in Dallas's favor.