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sideon · Mar 16, 2017

Sydla said:
Counting on rookies to make immediate impacts is foolish. And at this point, we might be counting on multiple rookies to have to be immediately impacts in our secondary.

I was all for redoing the secondary. I had no issue with Church being sent packing and one or Carr or Claiborne. But right now, CB is much worse than what we had at CB at the end of the year. Carroll is a turd. And now you've put yourself in a situation where you have to force picks at CB and multiple picks at that AND then not only use multiple picks at CB but have them all hit and be impact players immediately.

That's about as risky as it gets.

We counted on rookies last year, and it was a veteran that made the key mistake against GB.

Sydla · Mar 16, 2017

bkight13 said:
I wanted Mo but it is what it is ....we lost a JAG and Mr Glass

Carroll is every bit as good as Carr........Mo is better but unreliable

I am not a Carr fan but he's better than Carroll.

Nightman · Mar 16, 2017

Sydla said:
And you have to get him in the first.

Then you have 5 picks left in the draft and you probably will have to use 2 on CBs.

I think the ideal situation was to bring Claiborne or Carr back. Carr got overpaid. I am curious to see what Claiborne got if this report is true.

The notion that Carroll slides in and fills the void left by Carr or Claiborne is laughable.

Plenty of DBs in this draft

Should trade some 2018 picks for more picks this year since we are getting 4 comps next year

Sandyf · Mar 16, 2017

I'm sorry, just not really that worried. Brown played as well as Carr and Claiborne last year. Claiborne has never stayed healthy and everybody and their brother didn't want Dallas to resign him last year. Carr has been on everyone's hit list for 3 years now. Is Carroll a savior, nope but just as good as Carr and Claiborne. Scandrick will be better this year especially a year removed from the ACL.

There are still a CB or two that could be signed as backups and we didn't overpay. Really how many actually believe Carr is worth 6 mil a year and Claiborne 7 mil a year. Not me, by a long shot.

And for those saying we have to draft a CB with our 1st pick, be prepared to be disappointed because Dallas will stick to their draft board and maybe it will be a BPA CB at 28 but just as likely be a OT also so can't wait until the rants about we should have done this or that, you know sort of like when we drafted Frederick.

TRUTH87 · Mar 16, 2017

robjay04 said:
And Scandrick...

It always stinks to lose players but it seems like we just didn't want to resign these guys.

Change can be good, people complain about our defenses year in and year out and a lot of our starters have been the same for awhile. Time to switch it up.

Im stoked. Finally a new look to this defense. Get some young players in...

MichaelWinicki · Mar 16, 2017

Sydla said:
You mean rush end?

We could use one new pass rushing end for sure and we could also use a legit 1 tech. I like Paea but he's a short term solution. Not sure if that's a rebuild but the DL needed help in this draft.

Thornton and Paea are the 1 tech DT's.

Nightman · Mar 16, 2017

Sydla said:
I am not a Carr fan but he's better than Carroll.

I don't think Carr is better than anyone really..... all he does is show up every week

Addition by subtraction imo

Sydla · Mar 16, 2017

sideon said:
We counted on rookies last year, and it was a veteran that made the key mistake against GB.

We didn't count on rookies. Brown proved he could play and earned his spot. But he wasn't in the Top 3 on the CB depth chart at the beginning of the year.

Sydla · Mar 16, 2017

MichaelWinicki said:
Thornton and Paea are the 1 tech DT's.

Did you not read my post? Paea isn't a long term solution, he's a 1 year contract guy. So yes, we could use a longer term option at the 1 tech.

MichaelWinicki · Mar 16, 2017

Sandyf said:
I'm sorry, just not really that worried. Brown played as well as Carr and Claiborne last year. Claiborne has never stayed healthy and everybody and their brother didn't want Dallas to resign him last year. Carr has been on everyone's hit list for 3 years now. Is Carroll a savior, nope but just as good as Carr and Claiborne. Scandrick will be better this year especially a year removed from the ACL.

There are still a CB or two that could be signed as backups and we didn't overpay. Really how many actually believe Carr is worth 6 mil a year and Claiborne 7 mil a year. Not me, by a long shot.

And for those saying we have to draft a CB with our 1st pick, be prepared to be disappointed because Dallas will stick to their draft board and maybe it will be a BPA CB at 28 but just as likely be a OT also so can't wait until the rants about we should have done this or that, you know sort of like when we drafted Frederick.

I'm not either.

I'm saying right now the pass defense will be as good if not better in '17 that it was in '16.

KJJ · Mar 16, 2017

ROUSH8692 said:
willcox, church, carr, claiborne 4/4

That tells you how little we thought of our secondary. Good riddance to all of them.

Rogerthat12 · Mar 16, 2017

Sydla said:
I am not a Carr fan but he's better than Carroll.

Not when receivers were taking him across the middle, he was a liability there!

MichaelWinicki · Mar 16, 2017

Sydla said:
Did you not read my post? Paea isn't a long term solution. So yes, we could use a longer term option at the 1 tech.

It's not a big need. And I doubt the Cowboys target a 1-tech DT. They've pulled 3 1-tech DT's out of free agency (McClain/Thornton/Paea) and they can do it again next season when they have even more cap space.

Arkyvarminter · Mar 16, 2017

We need someone to get after the QB on D.....give the corners some rest.

CalPolyTechnique · Mar 16, 2017

Claiborne Island.

tyke1doe · Mar 16, 2017

PJTHEDOORS said:
Wonder if losing Carr/Mo improves our comp picks. The 4 we have, 4th, 5th, and 2 6ths. If any can be moved up to the 5th round (the 6ths).

I understand we can only be awarded four. So does that mean if we have more than four our 4th round picks could be moved to a third or our lower picks can be combined and we'd move up the compensatory ladder?
@Cowboys22

tyke1doe · Mar 16, 2017

CalPolyTechnique said:
Claiborne Island.

More like Claiborne ICUland.

Walker · Mar 16, 2017

Was hoping we had resign Carr, he was "ok" not good not terrible, but you could always count on him being on the field unlike a lot of our injury prone secondary.

Bleu Star · Mar 16, 2017

SDCowboy85 said:
Wow, are defense is going to look different next year.

Reimagined is how I like to refer to it. I freaking love it!

:oldcouple:

tyke1doe · Mar 16, 2017

ROUSH8692 said:
willcox, church, carr, claiborne 4/4

Carr's already gone?

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