Moore: Stephen Jones says Cowboys could add veteran & young QBs

[Alexander]

I don't know.

Anytime we try a pick play or anything that goes sideways it just looks so foreign to this team.

There are highschool teams that look more comfortable running those plays than we do.

Screen plays are next to impossible.

 

[Vinnie2u]

If Romo retires... What's the cap hit...

 

[Mr Cowboy]

2 things I took from this:

1. Probably a QB in the first round.
2. Hardy is gone

 

[Redball Express]

You have to start by scrapping Garretts playbook.


I honestly think it's a higher priority than the QB itself because you have seen Weeden go on to have success away from Dallas.

Also, we've seen Cassell have success in the NFL as well.


No QB that isn't absolutely elite is going to have success in a passing scheme that is predictable and doesn't ever help the passing game with design.

The offense is based on Romo's strengths.

Those are reading defenses, his ability to buy time..

and accuracy from 15-20 yards downfield.

His play calling at the line LOS is his best skill if you ask me.

His physical ability to take the hits and his arm strenght has decreased and he is holding the ball alot more because he is not able to squeeze the ball to his receivers now.

So he hesitates and takes a sack. Adding to the injuries.

I'm not sure how to fix that unless we get back to the 2014 offense with handing the ball off to a RB like Murray and just protecting Romo from trying to do too much.

I think that ship has sailed. And until we know if Dez is going to recover or not..

Its a pickle.

If I was the Cowboys..I would first draft a RB that can carry the rock 400 times and get a DL who can rush the passer.

If the team improves next year..then you can look for a QB.

And if it doesn't and we get another top 4 pick..

we look then for the QB.

But as long as Romo is standing..

we have to let things run their course.

 

[Risen Star]

2 things I took from this:

1. Probably a QB in the first round.
2. Hardy is gone

That's the thing this year. Usually a team shouldn't know what they're going to do in the draft. Scout the talent, stack the board, let the process dictate where you go. But the Cowboys are picking high enough this year that they really should have an idea of who they're picking. Maybe not now, but further along when they finalize the grades. They should have a clear idea of the player they expect to draft with that pick on the morning of April 28th.

 

[Floatyworm]

Come on Floaty. That's not even a good attempt at baiting.

LOL.....

It's not bait. I just think it's a mistake to saddle up w/ Romo again. It's as if people didn't even read the Aikman article...1st game of the season...and the Giants hit him once...and Romo's back is not right. Re-breaks the same collarbone for the 4th time. (broke it in high school that no one talks about). Now this talk of rebreaking it again and putting in a plate...My gawd people think this guy is the bionic man. Just attach new part...good as new. Too bad the human body doesn't work that way.

The only way I keep Romo around is to mentor the new guy. Hopefully it's Lynch....If that's the direction they choose. I still think you got something to work w/ in Kellen as a starter....so we will see how this turns out.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I wouldn't be shocked to see we cut bait w/ broken down Romo and roll with......

1. Lynch
2. Manziel
3. Moore

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[Wood]

You have to start by scrapping Garretts playbook.


I honestly think it's a higher priority than the QB itself because you have seen Weeden go on to have success away from Dallas.

Also, we've seen Cassell have success in the NFL as well.


No QB that isn't absolutely elite is going to have success in a passing scheme that is predictable and doesn't ever help the passing game with design.

I am little confused. Isn't Scott Linehan the OC. If he was striped of those duties and was just figure head we would have heard about that by now.

 

[Wood]

It's not bait. I just think it's a mistake to saddle up w/ Romo again. It's as if people didn't even read the Aikman article...1st game of the season...and the Giants hit him once...and Romo's back is not right. Re-breaks the same collarbone for the 4th time. (broke it in high school that no one talks about). Now this talk of rebreaking it again and putting in a plate...My gawd people think this guy is the bionic man. Just attach new part...good as new. Too bad the human body doesn't work that way.

The only way I keep Romo around is to mentor the new guy. Hopefully it's Lynch....If that's the direction they choose. I still think you got something to work w/ in Kellen as a starter....so we will see how this turns out.

I think your going too far with Kellen as starter. But I agree with your other points. The body is great score keeper...it knows when its had enough.

 

[CATCH17]

I am little confused. Isn't Scott Linehan the OC. If he was striped of those duties and was just figure head we would have heard about that by now.

It's the same offense we've always ran.

The only thing Linehan has done different than Garrett is bring balance to it.

 

[DandyDon52]

I notice Stevie doesnt say anything about not signing the # 1 RB from 2014 who also broke emmitt's single season record,
and the 50 year old record of jim brown.
They never mention it.
They never say they made mistakes, jerry did say he "got cute" with QB situation, but lol what does that even mean?

The jones boys and their decisions put their puppet coach in a bad situation, and even Romo in a bad situation,
and it all imploded.
Domino effect , one thing led to another.

After all these years they are just now questioning garretts offense!

Just a thought , the same guys who thought weeden and cassel were A ok for 2015, are the guys who will be
picking a QB in the draft and FA.

Most on this board and cowboys.com board thought the weeden pickup, and then keeping him for 2015 was a mistake.
But the jones boys thought he was going to be more than enough.

I criticize JG a lot, but the jones boys actually work against him, when they should work with him.

As a example, JG wanted badly to keep Murray, and so did Romo, JG did not want C.Michael, and is why he didnt play him.
I dont think JG wanted Cassel, and would have rather stayed with weeden longer.
It is kinda obvious JG did not want hardy, but he got him anyway.
And there are probably more that we dont know about, and the reverse could be true where JG wants a player but jones boys say no.

I think the coach should decide all this , and the gm and owner should help make it happen.

The jones boys are actually playing coaches to a certain extent, and Gm, and owner.
It might be better if they just fired JG and came down to the sideline and be stand around HC themselves.
And they could save that 6 mil a year, and get more tv time.
And if they actually won something they would get all the credit, as HC's

I really think that would work better, because right now they undermine the HC they have , and he sees things and players one way
and they see it a different way, and neither gets to do what they really think is right.

They denied JG players he wanted bad, and gave him players he did not want at all, so how is that supposed to be
a winning formula??
I dont feel sorry for JG, @ 6 mil a year, I feel for the fans who have to watch all the insanity play out poorly with their team.

 

[DandyDon52]

I am little confused. Isn't Scott Linehan the OC. If he was striped of those duties and was just figure head we would have heard about that by now.

It's the same offense we've always ran.

The only thing Linehan has done different than Garrett is bring balance to it.

JG wanted linehan so he could keep his own offense and then Linny would just call the plays.
any new plays and all game plans they come up with together with JG having the final say.

JG could even tell Linny whether he wants to be heavy run or pass against each team.
Or lets do this against these guys etc.
I think another flaw is the anytime dez gets 1 on 1 coverage you throw it up to him.
I dont know what the actual result is and I am talking +20 yard throws, but it seems like this only works about 25%
of the time.
If it is 3rd down, and you want dallas to do that, all you have to do is show 1 on 1 on dez and cowboys will bite just about every time.

 

[percyhoward]

"God-forbid, if it [injury to Romo] was to happen again, how would we have confidence and be unwavering about the guys we have so that we're not looking for a change every two or three weeks?"

This is an interesting comment, taken with Jerry's revelation that Linehan was calling for Moore to start ever since week 3.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You have to start by scrapping Garretts playbook.


I honestly think it's a higher priority than the QB itself because you have seen Weeden go on to have success away from Dallas.

Also, we've seen Cassell have success in the NFL as well.


No QB that isn't absolutely elite is going to have success in a passing scheme that is predictable and doesn't ever help the passing game with design.

People are overstating how much success Brandon Weeden had away from the Cowboys....nevermind that he joined a team that had their healthy playmaker.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's not bait. I just think it's a mistake to saddle up w/ Romo again. It's as if people didn't even read the Aikman article...1st game of the season...and the Giants hit him once...and Romo's back is not right. Re-breaks the same collarbone for the 4th time. (broke it in high school that no one talks about). Now this talk of rebreaking it again and putting in a plate...My gawd people think this guy is the bionic man. Just attach new part...good as new. Too bad the human body doesn't work that way.

The only way I keep Romo around is to mentor the new guy. Hopefully it's Lynch....If that's the direction they choose. I still think you got something to work w/ in Kellen as a starter....so we will see how this turns out.

Well, this line of thought is way late and short. This is the line of thought that should have been had before he was ever signed to the contract he has. If you were against signing him, then I'd say I understand and maybe you were right If you weren't, then this is really not a position you can take. Either way, it's done and it is completely unrealistic to think that we can move on. The financials don't even come close to allowing for this, even if we were thinking about doing something like that. It's a pointless conversation.

 

[tyke1doe]

It is one win more than he got in Dallas. Conversely, a lot was put into that one win from Cassel. There was a good bit of that during that one glorious week afterglow.

I know, right. It had me thinking, "Maybe we CAN get to the playoffs with Cassel."

Wait a minute. What was I thinking?

 

[Nightman]

My plan

Draft Goff/Wentz
Sign RGIII or Kap or similar vet to back-up for 1 year
Draft sign UDFA QB late for Practice Squad

Next year Goff/Wentz will be direct back-up
Still draft a QB at some point

Year 3 Romo and his 20m salary retires and Goff is QB1
With 5th year option and franchise tag can control thru 2021 before FA

 

[HappyOnions]

You read to much into that one win.

Weeden put us in position to win 2 of the 3 games he started for us this year.

Weeden did more than enough against Atlanta, but in typical Dallas fashion, the defense completely collapsed when it mattered most.

Weeden drove down the field to tie the game against NO. He did his job. Did Brandon Weeden let CJ Spiller score a long TD in OT?

He isn't the best option out there, but he's a lot better than what Matt Cassel brought to the table.

 

[Beast_from_East]

2 things I took from this:

1. Probably a QB in the first round.
2. Hardy is gone

Exactly................that is the same thing I got out of this.

QB in the first round, either at 4 or a modest trade down and Hardy is gone (Stephen flat out said the sack numbers were not good enough)

 

[gimmesix]

That's the thing this year. Usually a team shouldn't know what they're going to do in the draft. Scout the talent, stack the board, let the process dictate where you go. But the Cowboys are picking high enough this year that they really should have an idea of who they're picking. Maybe not now, but further along when they finalize the grades. They should have a clear idea of the player they expect to draft with that pick on the morning of April 28th.

Well, at least two or three ideas depending on how things fall. For instance, if they do have Goff in their top four, but no other QB, and he's taken by Cleveland, then what's the next option? Or is Goff even the top option? Maybe Bosa's No. 1 on their board.