Moore: With faith in Joseph Randle dwindling, Cowboys could have big running back shakeup

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So you really see no problem with him being reckless with the football even tho the coaches told him not to do it..8 days ago! The fact that he got lucky is lost on you? He had that ball in 1 hand long before it crossed the goal line and is sheer grace of God that it wasn't knocked out half a second earlier.

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I do agree that the problems with the running game can't just be blamed on the offensive line. When I went back and watched Dallas' victories last year before this season started, it was surprising how many times Murray made something out of nothing.

Now, right now it's more difficult on these backs without Romo and Bryant, but I just haven't seen them be able to turn many losses into 3-yard gains or pick up 5 when they should get 2. Randle had a real nice bounce run that he took for a touchdown last week, but it's been hit and miss with him, and then he does things like the TD dive that show his knuckleheadedness.

I like Randle but I just think he is more a role type player not a lead RB.
 

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If you look back, this is typical of most running backs. Most just end up being guys.

Oh, I agree. In fact, I wrote a treatise about it in the offseason. I don't think that needs to keep you from drafting them, though, especially when you don't know if what you've got is the answer.
 

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Oh, I agree. In fact, I wrote a treatise about it in the offseason. I don't think that needs to keep you from drafting them, though, especially when you don't know if what you've got is the answer.

I still wish they would have ponied up for Peterson. Dude hasn't lost a thing.
 

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I like Randle but I just think he is more a role type player not a lead RB.

He might be. I'm going to take into account for now that missing Romo and Bryant is making it tougher on the running game than it was last year, but I do feel Randle isn't the consistent back we need as the No. 1 guy. I hope he either proves us wrong or Michael is able to step up and take the role. I have absolutely no hope for McFadden being anything more than the under-4-yards-per-carry back that he's been.
 

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The culture has long since changed, buddy. Garrett scoured the roster of rot and decay, and now it's one of the best teams in the NFL when healthy. It's not healthy.

The team loses without Romo, Dez, Scandrick, Gregory, Hardy, McClain - plus Lee and Dunbar for half a game - and people actually think that's coaching?

Weeden versus Brees in New Orleans went to overtime.

First off New Orleans is a horrible team, so Weeden leading the team to overtime means nothing really. It was just 2 really bad teams playing each other. Second, we had most of our starters week 1 and we looked very bad and rusty. JG didn't have the team ready for prime time.. YES that is a coaching problem. Sure, our team doesn't have all of it's starters right now and we will get better when we do but this team still has coaching and culture problems. Last year was the lone exception in many years and it was due to an outstanding almost unstoppable run game. Not the coaching. That running game is now gone.. we have jags at RB now due to the coaching staff and Jerry thinking you can stick ANYONE behind our line and they will be successful. That isn't a coaching issue?
 

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Oh, I agree. In fact, I wrote a treatise about it in the offseason. I don't think that needs to keep you from drafting them, though, especially when you don't know if what you've got is the answer.

They did know who they had was the answer... they were just wrong and egotistical as they usually are. Why do you think we have had a losing team the past 20 years?
 

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When Brandon Weeden is your quarterback, you ARE predictable by default.

We could do more high percentage throws..

Brees can't throw the ball down field but you saw Payton put a game plan together that still made him effective with short passes designed to get guys open and not dependent of players winning 1 on 1s.
 

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We could do more high percentage throws..

Brees can't throw the ball down field but you saw Payton put a game plan together that still made him effective with short passes designed to get guys open and not dependent of players winning 1 on 1s.

OK, we're comparing Weeden to Brees? Seriously?
 

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OK, we're comparing Weeden to Brees? Seriously?

It's not about the QB.. It's about the simplicity of the passes..

Brandon Weeden can complete simple stuff.

His weakness is all of the downfield stuff where he has to read a defense and where to go with the ball when his first read is gone.
 

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He might be. I'm going to take into account for now that missing Romo and Bryant is making it tougher on the running game than it was last year, but I do feel Randle isn't the consistent back we need as the No. 1 guy. I hope he either proves us wrong or Michael is able to step up and take the role. I have absolutely no hope for McFadden being anything more than the under-4-yards-per-carry back that he's been.

No doubt not having Romo and Dez makes it harder. I hope Michaels shows something and as far as McFadden I think he can have success in the passing game that we lost with Dunbar. McFadden in the open field can still be a dangerous player.
 

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It's not about the QB.. It's about the simplicity of the passes..

Brandon Weeden can complete simple stuff.

His weakness is all of the downfield stuff where he has to read a defense and where to go with the ball when his first read is gone.

Uh....that's what they did against Atlanta and New Orleans, bud.
 

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Except it's not getting blown out of proportion

When the coaching staff tells you not to do something, multiple times, and you still do it, that's a problem. Even if you think the coaches are completely and utterly wrong, it's not a player's job to decide what's best for the team or not. And if you watch some of the players, they weren't pleased with Randle either on the sideline.

Randle is clearly a Grade A knucklehead.

And frankly, he's not a good enough TB that you look past the fact he's a dumb****.

I agree with you 100%...Having said that, below is a funny story...

It was Taylor's second year in the NFL, 1982, and really the first year he made his presence known as a pass rusher. As Parcells tells it they were playing Philadelphia at home and there was a defensive call made on the field that required LT to drop into coverage. He rushed the quarterback instead and sacked him.

As LT came off the field Parcells was ripping him for not doing his job and Taylor said "I knew I could get him before he passed the ball." Parcells said don't do it again. Later on in the game, on the same defensive call, LT disregarded his assignment and rushed the quarterback again.


Sack no. 2 and another stern warning from Parcells.

As you would expect the same call came up a little later in the game and LT just rushed in for his third sack of the day. As Taylor came off the field Parcells turned to one of his defensive coaches and said "make up a name for what he's been doing because they're going to ask me in the postgame press conference."

Bill was smiling the whole time he told the story and kept smiling during the 132 1/2 regular season sacks and 6 1/2 postseason sacks LT recorded with Big Blue.
 

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They did know who they had was the answer... they were just wrong and egotistical as they usually are. Why do you think we have had a losing team the past 20 years?

I don't necessarily agree. They thought Randle could be good enough based on his play in a part-time role ... and maybe he would be with Romo and Bryant playing. They thought they could get out of McFadden as the veteran backup what Oakland hasn't been able to get.

I didn't agree with them, but I do believe we would be 4-0 with Romo and Bryant, so it probably wouldn't matter at this point if we weren't trying to succeed with this running game without that passing game. The injuries are what makes the decision about the running game look worse than what it likely is.
 

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Uh....that's what they did against Atlanta and New Orleans, bud.


We ran wheel and pick routes to get guys open?

No.. We checked it down to Dunbar over and over and we we predictable when we did it instead of mixing it up on first down.
 
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