Moore: With faith in Joseph Randle dwindling, Cowboys could have big running back shakeup

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Chris Johnson is 5th in the NFL in rushing. But, Dallas locked into signing McFadden so early, they ruled him out.

I wanted him here badly. But others thought I'm foolish to think otherwise and said he's a has been. I thought he would have been a good replacement for Murray - he can take it all the way, plus he doesn't get injured and can carry the ball like a workhorse back can.

Two opportunities the FO messed up on. Not drafting a quality back to replace Murray and not bringing in Chris Johnson even for a look.

I do not like Randle at all. This stems from last years incident. I don't think he deserves the praise that he gets and he is nothing more than a change of pace back that got most of his yards because of backing up Murray.

Now I don't even know who would be serviceable in replacing Randle. They might as well just give it that role to CMike and call it a day.
 

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Exactly, but all this told-you-so nonsense is based on Murray not being re-signed.

Never stated anything regarding I told you so based on Murray. I do grumble about not finding a capable runningback to replace him - which I think was a big mistake.
 

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Never stated anything regarding I told you so based on Murray. I do grumble about not finding a capable runningback to replace him - which I think was a big mistake.

It was.....

Monumentally big.

I tried to gripe & moan about it to no avail.

"Rbs are a dime a dozen and anyone can run behind this line".... at least that's what I was told over & over & over & over again.... :rolleyes:
 

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Demarco Murray is averaging 12 yards a game, it should be noted.

apples and oranges. Murray is doing spot duty in Philly. Murray does not have the Dallas' line in Philly.
Murray rushed for 1,800 yards last year in Dallas. Could he half repeated this. I dunno. Could he half been a consistent and producutive runner in Dallas this year, probably. My point is this: Jerra fixed something that was not broke, yea productive. Now we are the poor country cousins with no credible running game. I will take mein chances with Mrurray rather than with these RB midgets we half in Dallas now.
 

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Darren Mac & Michael should be carrying the load. Randle should be an afterthought in the running game. He is a smaller back with no power and lacks the speed and allusiveness to compensate for that. I think the running game will greatly improve if Mcfadden starts getting the bulk of carries with decent splash of Michael.
 

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Never stated anything regarding I told you so based on Murray. I do grumble about not finding a capable runningback to replace him - which I think was a big mistake.

What capable running back? All the draftees look like busts so far. Fred Jackson is already hurt, and CJ won't be far behind. Old running backs get hurt, so don't overpay. Lynch is hurt. Murray has a hamstring issue. Foster has been hurt. Peterson is the exception, to most every rule.

Paying big money to a running back very rarely pays off, and drafted running backs are seldom better than what you already have.
 

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apples and oranges. Murray is doing spot duty in Philly. Murray does not have the Dallas' line in Philly.
Murray rushed for 1,800 yards last year in Dallas. Could he half repeated this. I dunno. Could he half been a consistent and producutive runner in Dallas this year, probably. My point is this: Jerra fixed something that was not broke, yea productive. Now we are the poor country cousins with no credible running game. I will take mein chances with Mrurray rather than with these RB midgets we half in Dallas now.

$8 bajillion dollars. No thanks.
 

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Randle is your Julius Jones the big problem being neither DMC nor CMike are anywhere near MBIII to help compensate for the averageness of Randle

That means we get 2 quarters of average play and 2 quarters of nothing when he's tired out. We need to find The Barbarians spiritual replacement of we want to keep trotting out average RBs
 

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What capable running back? All the draftees look like busts so far. Fred Jackson is already hurt, and CJ won't be far behind. Old running backs get hurt, so don't overpay. Lynch is hurt. Murray has a hamstring issue. Foster has been hurt. Peterson is the exception, to most every rule.

Paying big money to a running back very rarely pays off, and drafted running backs are seldom better than what you already have.

Well for one thing we could have had Rawls in the 7th round. Instead we traded for a 4th TE that we don't need. Now Rawls looks like a potential future starter when Lynch decides to hang it up. Too bad we didn't have the guts to waste a low round pick on Rawls - which would have been a capable replacement for Murray.

As for capable runningbacks there were several that we could have taken in the draft in the mid rounds. Sure some of them are injured as of now. But we will rue the day when these backs are playing to their full strength carving up defenses a year or two from now. Heck, no one know for sure, but I would have looked into several backs that could have been a replacement for Murray. Like David Cobb who would have fit perfectly with our system. We could have used a 3rd rounder on him.

The risk we took this off season was not taking a risk at all. It was foolish NOT to try and fill in Murray's shoes and instead going with scrubs like Randle. Frankly, I don't see anything great about Randle. I would have easily taken ANY of the mid round picks over him any day in this years draft and its not even close.
 

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Well for one thing we could have had Rawls in the 7th round. Instead we traded for a 4th TE that we don't need. Now Rawls looks like a potential future starter when Lynch decides to hang it up. Too bad we didn't have the guts to waste a low round pick on Rawls - which would have been a capable replacement for Murray.

As for capable runningbacks there were several that we could have taken in the draft in the mid rounds. Sure some of them are injured as of now. But we will rue the day when these backs are playing to their full strength carving up defenses a year or two from now. Heck, no one know for sure, but I would have looked into several backs that could have been a replacement for Murray. Like David Cobb who would have fit perfectly with our system. We could have used a 3rd rounder on him.

The risk we took this off season was not taking a risk at all. It was foolish NOT to try and fill in Murray's shoes and instead going with scrubs like Randle. Frankly, I don't see anything great about Randle. I would have easily taken ANY of the mid round picks over him any day in this years draft and its not even close.

32 teams had six shots at Rawls before he went in the draft. You think some teams would like a do over on Brady, Romo, or Sherman?

I believe they wanted Tevin Coleman, but when Randy Gregory fell to them, how could they not take a chance on such a needed and hard-to-find commodity. The whole draft looks like a bunch of Joseph Randles in talent, although I could do without the knuckleheadedness he brings. I'm done with him.

The running game is good other than that tough 1-yard runner needed. Maybe that will be Michael. The problem is that teams don't have to respect our QB's ability, so they just run blitz with eight in the box. No line and running back can successfully attack that. You have to throw them out of that. Maybe Dez is the answer to back them off.
 

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Maybe we need to run one in the first half, then switch to the other in the second, while mixing in McFadden some in more of a Dunbar role. Defenses will have to adjust to a different type of runner, which might give us at least some kind of edge.

On the radio lately, Stephen Jones mentioned the possibility of acquiring another RB but of course, he didn't mention any names. It was probably due to the lack of one notably better than anyone we already have. Not sure there's a quick fix for the rut we're in with the injuries and all. I'm hoping we can beat the Giants and the Eagles when we play them again. I'm not really too worried about the Commanders right now.They may take care of beating themselves with or without our help.
 

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On the radio lately, Stephen Jones mentioned the possibility of acquiring another RB but of course, he didn't mention any names. It was probably due to the lack of one notably better than anyone we already have. Not sure there's a quick fix for the rut we're in with the injuries and all. I'm hoping we can beat the Giants and the Eagles when we play them again. I'm not really too worried about the Commanders right now.They may take care of beating themselves with or without our help.
there is no one out there worth bringing in; and as regards a trade we would have to give up too high a pick to get someone good.
 

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32 teams had six shots at Rawls before he went in the draft. You think some teams would like a do over on Brady, Romo, or Sherman?

I believe they wanted Tevin Coleman, but when Randy Gregory fell to them, how could they not take a chance on such a needed and hard-to-find commodity. The whole draft looks like a bunch of Joseph Randles in talent, although I could do without the knuckleheadedness he brings. I'm done with him.

The running game is good other than that tough 1-yard runner needed. Maybe that will be Michael. The problem is that teams don't have to respect our QB's ability, so they just run blitz with eight in the box. No line and running back can successfully attack that. You have to throw them out of that. Maybe Dez is the answer to back them off.

So what about the 32 teams? We needed someone that could replace Murray. It was obvious we also wanted Rawls, thus the reason why we almost had him as a UDFA. Why not spend a lower round pick for him to make sure he signs with us?

The fact is the Cowboys were too complacent in finding a replacement for Murray and already decided in the first two rounds that we were going with Randle and Co. I don't buy for one second that they couldn't find someone better than Randle and that he's just as talented as any of the mid rounders. Frankly, as you can see Randles not capable and is in danger of losing the starting job because he's an idiot.

Like I said we will regret no replacing Murray and going with Randle. These running backs that we missed on will be tearing it up in a year or so while Randle will probably be cut after this year and will be spending a high rounder for a runningback with similar qualities to Murray.
 

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There are opposite type stories by some of the old time Cowboys players about when they free lanced and got benched by Landry despite the fact that they had success.

http://insidethestar.com/cowboys-ctk-tony-dorsett-dominates-33/


Upon arrival, Dorsett and the man in charge, Head Coach Tom Landry, had differing opinions on how Tony should run the ball. You see, Tom Landry was one of the most methodical men to ever live. He viewed football almost as a play with each motion of the game happening almost in a scripted and predetermined fashion.

One day in practice while preparing for the Cardinals Dorsett took a sweep right. The offensive and defensive players clashed leaving little room to run. The shifty Tony Dorsett cut his run back all the way to the left and picked up a huge gain.


“It will NEVER, in 100 years, happen like that!” screamed Landry. Dorsett was supposed to hit the hole Landry had drawn up, not run to what he saw.

That week against the Cardinals… it happened like that. Dorsett broke his cut back and danced his way down the Texas Stadium turf – 77 yards for a touchdown.

After that Tom Landry changed the way that he put together game plans. He instructed his linemen, the famed “Zero Club”, to block and hold their man… Tony would take care of the rest.
 

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So what about the 32 teams? We needed someone that could replace Murray. It was obvious we also wanted Rawls, thus the reason why we almost had him as a UDFA. Why not spend a lower round pick for him to make sure he signs with us?

Because the Cowboys and EVERY team didn't really think that much of him. There were a ton of running backs taken before he was. He was a shot in the dark.

And frankly, he looks pretty good, but he's probably just a dude.
 

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there is no one out there worth bringing in; and as regards a trade we would have to give up too high a pick to get someone good.

I do believe you're right. Nobody is likely to forfeit a prize RB at this point in the season and even if they did, he surely wouldn't come in an affordable type of deal. The draft should be our best bet for resolving that need but of course, that doesn't help us this year.
 
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http://insidethestar.com/cowboys-ctk-tony-dorsett-dominates-33/


Upon arrival, Dorsett and the man in charge, Head Coach Tom Landry, had differing opinions on how Tony should run the ball. You see, Tom Landry was one of the most methodical men to ever live. He viewed football almost as a play with each motion of the game happening almost in a scripted and predetermined fashion.

One day in practice while preparing for the Cardinals Dorsett took a sweep right. The offensive and defensive players clashed leaving little room to run. The shifty Tony Dorsett cut his run back all the way to the left and picked up a huge gain.


“It will NEVER, in 100 years, happen like that!” screamed Landry. Dorsett was supposed to hit the hole Landry had drawn up, not run to what he saw.

That week against the Cardinals… it happened like that. Dorsett broke his cut back and danced his way down the Texas Stadium turf – 77 yards for a touchdown.

After that Tom Landry changed the way that he put together game plans. He instructed his linemen, the famed “Zero Club”, to block and hold their man… Tony would take care of the rest.

So far that's HOF players being compared to Randle.
 

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Where was all this concern in the preseason when Jerra was all stupid and penny-wise by letting Murray go and thinking his O line would let any ol' RB shine?

You don't really believe that Murray would be doing any better do you? The way teams have been stacking the box and the way that Murray has not produced this year?
 
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