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[beacamdim]

Shhhhhh...you can't say that here, nothing was proven.

Oh yes. Of course. Sorry.

 

[ksg811]

When it comes to her bruises, I think an important thing to note is her sexual lifestyle. She's a self-expressed sex slave who enjoys BDSM. The nature of that lifestyle can create a lot bruising in itself. Handcuffs, choke collars, whips and paddles, wax burning, etc. Any of those activities could explain her injuries.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Looking at those pics I find it very hard to believe 6'0 220lbs Zeke Elliott was the person beating her.
Based on the evidence that points to her being in a fight with a woman and her above mentioned lifestyle around this time, I think the answer is very clear as to how she obtained the injuries. Unfortunately Goodell and his merry band of Mara testicle lickers made there decision long ago ignoring what is plainly obvious.

 

[beacamdim]

Everyone needs to remember: it's not enough that the bruises, etc. COULD have been caused by a fight with another girl.

Rather, on the appeal Zeke needs to show that the ONLY reasonable explanation was that ALL of those injuries were caused by a girl fight etc., AND that NONE of them was caused by anything Zeke did.

I can buy that she is lying about some of it -- even perhaps most of it.

But IMO Zeke is not going to be able to prove that the NFL could not look at the facts and plausibly conclude that Zeke hit her at least once.

And also remember, he hasn't denied anything. There is NO legal risk to do so - unless it would be a lie.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

Wow, this trashy woman is in need of serious help!

After I read the 77 page report, Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction comes to mind.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Multiple witnesses telling the same story. Zeke never touched the girl. Tiffany threatened to ruin his career. And multiple witnesses saying Tiffany was in a fight with another girl the same night all this allegedly occurred.

But the NFL takes one individuals word over many others who said Zeke never touched her. The NFL takes the word of Tiffany over multiple individuals who said Tiffany was in an altercation with another girl. The NFL says Zeke cannot explain the marks, even though eye witnesses have signed affidavits explaining why she would have injuries.

The level of absurdity here is unreal.

I hope this goes past Zeke getting his suspension thrown out. I hope Zeke recovers damages for what the NFL did to his reputation and name for what they have stated he did to this girl.

Another thing I read was his Dad's testimony was that Zeke never lived with her and that he paid for her rent and cosigned for a car for her. She's claimed that domestic violence happened many times before. But if she didn't live him, and there was no history of abuse, why is Zeke being treated like a serial women beater?

The only time that she sustain injuries was from another fight with another women. There was also multiple eye witnesses that stated that Zeke never laid a hand on her.

Frankly, I'm really baffled and shocked at to the extent of the evidence Zeke has going for him.

The NFL will have their hands full trying to make Tiffany Tompson as credible as can be. This suspension is a sham and totally uncalled for by the commissioner and should be thrown out immediately.

 

[diefree666]

Everyone needs to remember: it's not enough that the bruises, etc. COULD have been caused by a fight with another girl.

Rather, on the appeal Zeke needs to show that the ONLY reasonable explanation was that ALL of those injuries were caused by a girl fight etc., AND that NONE of them was caused by anything Zeke did.

I can buy that she is lying about some of it -- even perhaps most of it.

But IMO Zeke is not going to be able to prove that the NFL could not look at the facts and plausibly conclude that Zeke hit her at least once.

And also remember, he hasn't denied anything. There is NO legal risk to do so - unless it would be a lie.

Zeke is undoubtedly listening to his lawyers before saying anything in public. Blaming him for that is dumb.

 

[beacamdim]

Wow, this trashy woman is in need of serious help!

After I read the 77 page report, Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction comes to mind.

Yup Glenn Close was indeed a nut.

Nevertheless, RG would have been within his rights to suspend Michael Douglas under the PCP and DVP if he had touched her for any reason other than pure self-defense.

 

[beacamdim]

Zeke is undoubtedly listening to his lawyers before saying anything in public. Blaming him for that is dumb.

Agreed. I would never - and do not - blame him for following their advice.

But why is their advice not to deny?

Almost certainly because to do so would be untrue.

Otherwise the best legal advice would be to proclaim your complete innocence.

Trust me: in my business, that's criminal defense 101.

 

[Nightman]

Everyone needs to remember: it's not enough that the bruises, etc. COULD have been caused by a fight with another girl.

Rather, on the appeal Zeke needs to show that the ONLY reasonable explanation was that ALL of those injuries were caused by a girl fight etc., AND that NONE of them was caused by anything Zeke did.

I can buy that she is lying about some of it -- even perhaps most of it.

But IMO Zeke is not going to be able to prove that the NFL could not look at the facts and plausibly conclude that Zeke hit her at least once.

And also remember, he hasn't denied anything. There is NO legal risk to do so - unless it would be a lie.

She sent real time photos to family during the week before the fist fight.... the NFL is basing everything on those photos..... they don't care about the incident on July 22 with the police and the girl fight

there is no proof EE was even with her during the week but there is no proof he wasn't.... he didn't live there but he paid the rent....... he considered her friends with benefits or F#$@ Buddies

 

[diefree666]

Agreed.

But why is their advice not to deny?

Almost certainly because to do so would be untrue.

Otherwise the best legal advice would be to proclaim your complete innocence.

Trust me: in my business, that's criminal defense 101.

Obviously their opinion on this differs with yours. Does not mean it is wrong despite what you claim. There could be other legal reasons for the precise wording of his comments.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

So the NFL investigators conclude that the fight between the two girls was not physical and yet you have two police officers state they witnessed punches thrown?

Say what?

Witnesses were unreliable in their report but failed to mention they were police officers. Pete Harvey's statement is the biggest hack job in the world. He'd have been much better off saying nothing than his one sided b.s.

 

[iamliko22]

Agreed.

But why is their advice not to deny?

Almost certainly because to do so would be untrue.

Otherwise the best legal advice would be to proclaim your complete innocence.

Trust me: in my business, that's criminal defense 101.

quick google : elliott denies

just a quick copy and paste...

 

[beacamdim]

She sent real time photos to family during the week before the fist fight.... the NFL is basing everything on those photos..... they don't care about the incident on July 22 with the police and the girl fight

there is no proof EE was even with her during the week but there is no proof he wasn't.... he didn't live there but he paid the rent....... he considered her friends with benefits or F#$@ Buddies

You - and everyone else - is absolutely entitled to look at the evidence and draw their own conclusion. I might even agree with yours.

But that's not what matters.

Unless the league has no reasonable basis to have concluded otherwise - and there really is no debate they could have even if you think that conclusion is wrong -- Zeke is screwed

 

[Nightman]

Shhhhhh...you can't say that here, nothing was proven.

he passed didn't he

maybe he was worried about second hand smoke or edibles or supplements but it proves nothing

 

[ConstantReboot]

Everyone needs to remember: it's not enough that the bruises, etc. COULD have been caused by a fight with another girl.

Rather, on the appeal Zeke needs to show that the ONLY reasonable explanation was that ALL of those injuries were caused by a girl fight etc., AND that NONE of them was caused by anything Zeke did.

I can buy that she is lying about some of it -- even perhaps most of it.

But IMO Zeke is not going to be able to prove that the NFL could not look at the facts and plausibly conclude that Zeke hit her at least once.

And also remember, he hasn't denied anything. There is NO legal risk to do so - unless it would be a lie.

LOL have you read anything what the report says? There were several witnesses that stated that Zeke never laid a hand on her. Never!!

Go read it yourself before blaming anything on Zeke.

 

[diefree666]

You - and everyone else - is absolutely entitled to look at the evidence and draw their own conclusion. I might even agree with yours.

But that's not what matters.

Unless the league has no reasonable basis to have concluded otherwise - and there really is no debate they could have even if you think that conclusion is wrong -- Zeke is screwed

'reasonable basis' clearly has a different meaning to you.

 

[beacamdim]

quick google : elliott denies

just a quick copy and paste...

Not one of those denials was made before the NFL report was released.

THOSE are the allegations and findings at issue.

And EE has NEVER denied those.

In fact, his carefully-worded, attorney-drafted twitter statement after the report's release carefully avoided a denial altogether.

Speaks volumes imo.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

Yup Glenn Close was indeed a nut.

Nevertheless, RG would have been within his rights to suspend Michael Douglas under the PCP and DVP if he had touched her for any reason other than pure self-defense.

Just because Dingbat Goodell MIGHT have the right to suspend Zeke, doesn't make it right. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. I'm not equating this case to slavery and Jim Crow laws, but at one time these practices were legal too, and people were well within their rights to partake in both.

 

[beacamdim]

LOL have you read anything what the report says? There were several witnesses that stated that Zeke never laid a hand on her. Never!!

Go read it yourself before blaming anything on Zeke.

I'm not saying that.

Those are certainly reasons to disagree with the league.

But there is also evidence that the league can use to support its conclusions. And thst's bad for Zeke in the context of the appeal.

That's all I'm saying.