Mosley: Time for Cowboys to draft Tony Romo's successor

[Alexander]

Edit: now that I read it, you still don't have a point. Regardless of when you make the pick, the player still has to get on the field. In truth, Carter probably needed the time as an understudy. Today's quarterbacks don't.

So apply this logic of they "have to get on the field" to what we have done taking backup tight ends, injured linebackers who need to redshirt, third WRs and complimentary RBs in the first three rounds in recent years.

So it is okay to "develop" those players to take over eventually but not okay for the most important single position on the field?

 

[xwalker]

It would not have any more of a significant negative impact than taking an accessory tight end in the second round which we have done multiple times in the past half decade.

Escobar contributed this season. He was on all of the Special Teams units and played some snaps in every game. MartyB was a terrific blocker while he was here.

 

[Alexander]

Escobar contributed this season. He was on all of the Special Teams units and played some snaps in every game. MartyB was a terrific blocker while he was here.

And neither of their contributions did anything at a high enough impact to make this football team significantly better than if we filled their spots with lower draft picks or undrafted players.

The point is, why is it perfectly fine for a 20 snap a game player to be worth the investment, but because they "won't get on the field" a QB is considered having a negative impact.

If that is the case, you just sit there and never draft a QB unless it is an afterthought and you just cross your fingers. Or you simply wait for the bottom to drop out and get desperate at the hardest position to evaluate talent and future success.

 

[Naruto]

Let the new coach draft his own QB in 2015.

There's plenty of QB talent available in that draft

 

[xwalker]

And neither of their contributions did anything at a high enough impact to make this football team significantly better than if we filled their spots with lower draft picks or undrafted players.

The point is, why is it perfectly fine for a 20 snap a game player to be worth the investment, but because they "won't get on the field" a QB is considered having a negative impact.

If that is the case, you just sit there and never draft a QB unless it is an afterthought and you just cross your fingers. Or you simply wait for the bottom to drop out and get desperate at the hardest position to evaluate talent and future success.

MartyB played more than 20 snaps per game. People just didn't notice because he did get thrown to very often.

Most NFL QBs are drafted early in the 1st round. Yes, there are mid and late round success stories, but the probability is low.

My point is that for many reasons, using a premium pick on a QB this year has a low probability of being a good decision.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

This is Jones' biggest weakness as a GM. There is no room for personal sentiment in that role. All players should be viewed as replaceable at any time.

But then they won't want him to present them when they go into the Hall of Fame!

 

[Super_Kazuya]

lol, we aren't "developing" any of those positions, they're just crappy picks who can't get on the field. Look, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with using a high pick on a QB that you have no intention to play. It just doesn't make any sense when you are all in on a franchise QB. Brees, Manning and Brady are all older than Romo and I'm pretty sure you will not see them drafting a QB this year... even though they all know they have far less time ahead of them than behind at that position. If Romo's back goes out next year, Orton is very capable and we draft a QB in 2015 and throw him out there. Who cares if he's not developed. Lotta good that did McGee. And our crybaby fanbase hates 8-8 so much, so I'm sure they'll survive just fine if we go 4-12 while the QB learns the ropes.

 

[IrishAnto]

MartyB played more than 20 snaps per game. People just didn't notice because he did get thrown to very often.

Most NFL QBs are drafted early in the 1st round. Yes, there are mid and late round success stories, but the probability is low.

My point is that for many reasons, using a premium pick on a QB this year has a low probability of being a good decision.

MartyB may have had more that 20 snaps per game but hardly had the impact in Dallas you would want from a 2nd round pick.

If a quality QB fell to us at 16/17 then I for one wouldn't be against picking him up.

As they say your window of opportunity is open in the NFL as long as you have a quality QB.

I’d rather not go into a draft having to pick one or pay the price of an average QB in Free Agency.

 

[Vinnie2u]

We're not going to win a thing with this team as currently constructed.. Blow it up this off season.. Draft trenches this Draft.. Let whoever Play QB.. Get Winston Or Mariotta Next Year.. Stop Drinking the Jerry-Aid... We're not a player away... And by the time this team is ready to Win, Romo will be retired or playing for The Cardinals..

 

[Bleu Star]

As much as I have raved about Manziel in the past, I have to say Bortles would be the smarter pick. He has all the tools. Size, smarts, elusiveness in the pocket, accuracy, big arm, you name it...

I also agree with this article. No denial here. I would simply point to Ryan Mallett as exhibit A. The Patriots drafted him a few years ago during Tom Brady's prime years. They did not care about Brady's feelings and drafted for the long term good of the "organization". Look at him now. He has been able to sit back under one of the better programs this decade and learn the Pro game behind a Hall of Famer. That was a smart move then and drafting Bortles would be a smart move in this draft.

Unfortunately, we would have to maneuver to get him because I believe the Jags will take Bortles with their top 3 pick.

 

[TrailBlazer]

There is no need to take a QB until they need one. The myth of taking a QB and having him be some kind of understudy is just that. Today's college quarterbacks have been playing in sophisticated offenses since high school. You don't spend a first on a quarterback and stash them, you play them. And most quarterbacks that aren't 1st or 2nds simply can't play in the NFL, regardless of how slow you bring them along.

I am in the camp that feels Manziel is special and would be a perfect Cowboy, but someone will come along and make us forget about him... probably as soon as next fall.

Aaron Rodgers is a myth? He sat for a few years and that worked out fine. I do agree that qb's nowadays can step in as rookies and compete bc they run more sophisticated offenses and 7 on 7 camps. But there's nothing wrong with taking a qb and having him sit a year. This years draft class is deep at qb too. So it makes sense. Kaepernick foles Wilson are examples of qb's that made it and werent drafted in the first 2 rounds

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

We need to draft a QB soon???


DUH!

 

[TrailBlazer]

The Cowboys need to give themselves a chance to win while Romo is still playing. Drafting a QB early would be a significant negative impact to that goal.

Draft picks are a salary cap management tool. You have to get as much production as possible out of draft picks during the initial 4 year rookie contract while they have low salaries in order to manage the cap. It's highly likely that a QB drafted in 2014 would be on the bench for at least 2 years.

When trades are made during the draft, current picks are worth a round higher than the next years pick. The 1st pick in round 3 of the 2014 draft is basically worth the 1st pick in round 2 of the 2015 draft or a pick somewhere in the 1st round of the 2016 draft. If you take a QB in the 3rd round and he does not play until 2016, you're basically paying the equivalent of a 2016 1st round pick for the player; however in 2016 you only have him under his rookie contract for 2 more years, whereas you have the 2016 1st round pick under contract for 4 years with a 5th team option year.

If you carried 3 QBs at any time during 2014 or 2015, then it has cost you even more. That extra roster spot has value. You only have a few truly developmental players on the roster each year. Reducing that number by 1 greatly reduces the odds of hitting on a good developmental player.

On the flip side, carrying an older veteran backup QB is also has a negative impact on probabilities. If you can find a young NFL free agent QB or later round draft pick to immediately be the #2 QB, then you have given yourself a chance that player develops and is ready when the starter is gone. Having Orton as the backup is both expensive in cap dollars but it also gives you no chance that the

This thing is going to take time to fix. Major changes. And by the time we do that, tony will most likely be done. We are not one or two players away. We need a whole new defense and OC. Might as well think about the future and draft a qb in the second instead of a TE. You can still go dline in first and third.

 

[TrailBlazer]

We need to draft a QB soon???


DUH!

It seems like common sense, but not everybody agrees . Just read some of the posts. Some ppl think romo will be elite for another decade

 

[TrailBlazer]

Escobar contributed this season. He was on all of the Special Teams units and played some snaps in every game. MartyB was a terrific blocker while he was here.

A fourth round TE could've done that

 

[TrailBlazer]

lol, we aren't "developing" any of those positions, they're just crappy picks who can't get on the field. Look, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with using a high pick on a QB that you have no intention to play. It just doesn't make any sense when you are all in on a franchise QB. Brees, Manning and Brady are all older than Romo and I'm pretty sure you will not see them drafting a QB this year... even though they all know they have far less time ahead of them than behind at that position. If Romo's back goes out next year, Orton is very capable and we draft a QB in 2015 and throw him out there. Who cares if he's not developed. Lotta good that did McGee. And our crybaby fanbase hates 8-8 so much, so I'm sure they'll survive just fine if we go 4-12 while the QB learns the ropes.

So you like 8-8? I could take a year at 4-12 if it means long term success. We can't keep trying the same thing and expecting different results.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

If Bortles gets two years to sit behind Tony Romo he could really be something special at the NFL level. He is crazy similar on the field to Ben Roethlesburger and a class act kid off of it.

 

[Section446]

It's past time to draft his replacement, but Jerry won't do it. He doesn't want to put any pressure on Romo.

 

[BigStar]

Manziel. He's a perfect fit for this franchise.

His attitude. His style of play. His personality.

All of it screams Dallas Cowboys.

He even looks like Tony a little. But isn't World a little small (short?). It seems we had to compensate for Romo's height @ times...minimal 3 step drops, etc.

 

[tecolote]

I think I would wait until 2015 for a QB. With Tony's back, Ware and Witten's age and having a lameduck coach who is also horrible at his job, I believe one or two bad breaks next season could see the bottom fall out of this franchise and we could end up getting a high pick in the draft.