Most overrated Cowboy...

[jazzcat22]

Actually, Alvin Harper was a good number 2 when he was here with the Cowboys.
Alvin was the deep threat and caught several deep balls for the Cowboys.
He became overrated when he went to Tampa Bay as a number 1 receiver.
But he served his purpose for the Cowboys.

Agree. He wasn't considered overrated until he left, so I would not say he tops the list.
Hambrick was only a legend in his own mind, so I never considered him to have any potential to be great, so I would not say it's him either.

I will put Chad Hutchinson on, or near the top. To be overrated, you need to have the great potential label coming out of college.

 

[Doomsday]

Definately Quincy Carter on the top of my list.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Past: Nate Newton

Tough one as I considered Harper as well. But once Harper failed miserably when he left Dallas everybody knew that he was carried by the triplets when he was in Dallas. Newton wasn't really jack until Emmitt arrived and when Emmitt went past his prime, Newton stunk again. He had constant weight problems and generally I believe that the Dallas O-Lines of the 90's weren't as great as many claim. They were pretty good, but since they had an HOF QB, an HOF WR (well, Irvin should be) and Emmitt who made O-Linemen look better than they actually were the O-Line looked great.


Present: Julius

Lots of talent. Most people are concerned with injuries, but to me he's the type of back that needs to get his confidence early. When he rattles off a few big runs, he'll wind up doing that all game long regardless of what defense they are playing against. However, when he doesn't get those first few big runs early in the game, he doesn't do much. He's also not very good in short yardage situations and is painful to watch trying to catch the ball out of the backfield.

Rich.........

 

[ravidubey]

Joey Galloway, hands down. Good Lord, we sold our soul for that guy, figuratively speaking, and he does nothing!

I hate it when fans start badmouthing players when they know very little about football.

Joey was playing for an incompetant organization that traded too much to get him and an idiot of a coach who allowed him to get hurt in a blowout loss. Throw in a GM who thought a parade of Anthony Wright, Clint Stoerner, Ryan Leaf, Chad Hutchinson, and Quincy Carter is the answer at QB and how could he possibly succeed?

Parcells knew Carter couldn't get the ball to Galloway so he ran him wide as a decoy. The one game Galloway didn't play for Bill, Carter couldn't threw ONE completion to a wide receiver because there was no receiving threat on the field worth double-covering. He still led the team in most receiving categories despite rarely being thrown to because of his decoy status. In 2004 he led the league in yards per catch and was the ONLY offensive player to represent AT ALL in the 2003-2004 playoffs.

Look what Galloway is doing with a real offensive coach, even with Chris Simms at QB AFTER Dallas. Look what he did in Seattle BEFORE Dallas. ALL signs point to Dallas being the problem, not Galloway.

 

[stealth]

anybody see alvin harper when he was playin in the XFL I was so happy to see him playing the game again. He was a great number 2 receiver not over rated at all as a cowboy

 

[Bob Sacamano]

on the Roy williams is overrated bit, I'm just waiting for Adam to post

Roy has his weaknesses, mainly in coverage and taking bad angles at times, but he isn't overrated since most everyone agrees that Williams has work to do in coverage

 

[Hater]

Roy Williams is one... I love him and he is a great player, but people deify him in a way that smacks of homerism

DeMarcus Ware is the most overrated I think... A couple of nice plays in preseason against Seattle's scrubs and everyone thinks he's LT incarnate. He has potential but he isn't yet at the level where teams have to gameplan around him

 

[TEK2000]

I still don't see how people are saying Roy is overrated... no one is proclaiming him to be THE GREATEST EVER but no one could ever prove that he's not one of the very best safeties in the league right now.

A player can't be overrated if they are considered to be one of the top safeties in the league and THEY ACTUALLY ARE!!!

TNew is the furthest from overrated as there is. (I hope the guy was kidding when he said that)

 

[Funxva]

I hate it when fans start badmouthing players when they know very little about football.

Joey was playing for an incompetant organization that traded too much to get him and an idiot of a coach who allowed him to get hurt in a blowout loss. Throw in a GM who thought a parade of Anthony Wright, Clint Stoerner, Ryan Leaf, Chad Hutchinson, and Quincy Carter is the answer at QB and how could he possibly succeed?

Parcells knew Carter couldn't get the ball to Galloway so he ran him wide as a decoy. The one game Galloway didn't play for Bill, Carter couldn't threw ONE completion to a wide receiver because there was no receiving threat on the field worth double-covering. He still led the team in most receiving categories despite rarely being thrown to because of his decoy status. In 2004 he led the league in yards per catch and was the ONLY offensive player to represent AT ALL in the 2003-2004 playoffs.

Look what Galloway is doing with a real offensive coach, even with Chris Simms at QB AFTER Dallas. Look what he did in Seattle BEFORE Dallas. ALL signs point to Dallas being the problem, not Galloway.

Therefore, he was overated in Dallas. Case closed.

 

[TEK2000]

Roy Williams is one... I love him and he is a great player, but people deify him in a way that smacks of homerism

DeMarcus Ware is the most overrated I think... A couple of nice plays in preseason against Seattle's scrubs and everyone thinks he's LT incarnate. He has potential but he isn't yet at the level where teams have to gameplan around him

Wow... that's almost as shocking as the TNew is overrated comment.

EVERYONE? Really? EVERYONE has said he's the next LT?
You don't think Carolina wishes they would have had a better gameplan to handle him?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Roy Williams is one... I love him and he is a great player, but people deify him in a way that smacks of homerism

DeMarcus Ware is the most overrated I think... A couple of nice plays in preseason against Seattle's scrubs and everyone thinks he's LT incarnate. He has potential but he isn't yet at the level where teams have to gameplan around him

Ware led all 3-4 OLB's last year in tackles behind the line of scrimmage (sacks + tackles for loss). IIRC, he was 3rd overall in that category in the entire league.

Last year teams started sending a TE in motion to Ware's side to force him into either pass coverage or giving them a guy to help double team Ware. Mainly because he was very good last year and the other reason is that Fujita couldn't punish teams when they did that.

Opposing teams very much gameplanned their offense around Ware last season.


Rich.......

 

[Alexander]

ALL signs point to Dallas being the problem, not Galloway.

But we overpaid for him and that alone makes him overrated.

 

[tyke1doe]

Honestly I've NEVER seen him miss a tackle because he was looking for a big hit. I have all of last year's game footage so if you'd like to prove me wrong feel free to tell me when during what game. The only tackle I remember him really missing is against Gonzo.... and he wasn't even looking for the big hit then.

You must have forgot the Thanksgiving Day game a few years ago against Miami when a sober Ricky Williams just ran right over Roy Williams.

 

[Alexander]

You must have forgot the Thanksgiving Day game a few years ago against Miami when a sober Ricky Williams just ran right over Roy Williams.

And the Chris Brown stiff arm in the 2004 preseason.

It is exagerration like this that makes people believe Williams is overrated.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

in fact, you could make a case for Roy WIlliam's coverage ability being underrated, everyone is saying he sucks in that dept., well the media that is, and you're typical negativity trolls, Skin Trolls, but for the upteenth time, he had more INTs and pass-deflections than the almighty Troy Polamalu, and everyone is saying how great Troy is at it, even though he's hardly asked to do it

 

[tyke1doe]

These are Harper's career numbers with Dallas:
1991 dal | 20 326 16.3 1
| 1992 dal || 35 562 16.1 4
| 1993 dal | 36 777 21.6 5
| 1994 dal | 33 821 24.9 8

The guy never even caught 40 balls in a season. The postseason is the only reason why most fans even remember his name. That and when Jason Garrett was the quarterback.

So?

First, Harper was a No. 2 receiver.

Two, he shared balls with Novacek also.

Three, the Cowboys offense was run-dominated.

I think many posters are judging Harper based on what they think he should have done, not taking into account that he was drafted to be a deep threat and to complement Irvin and the passing game. He wasn't brought in to convert the Cowboys offense into the West Coast offense.

I don't think he was overrated because he wasn't expected to be a Michael Irvin in this offense. Now, you may complain about his draft status - No. 1 - and call him overrated because of where he was picked. And maybe if the Cowboys had no running game, ala the Cardinals with Boldin and Fitzgerald - then maybe I would say he was overrated. But he fulfilled his role. That's why I can't call him overrated.

 

[Alexander]

So?

First, Harper was a No. 2 receiver.

Two, he shared balls with Novacek also.

Three, the Cowboys offense was run-dominated.

I think many posters are judging Harper based on what they think he should have done, not taking into account that he was drafted to be a deep threat and to complement Irvin and the passing game. He wasn't brought in to convert the Cowboys offense into the West Coast offense.

I don't think he was overrated because he wasn't expected to be a Michael Irvin in this offense. Now, you may complain about his draft status - No. 1 - and call him overrated because of where he was picked. And maybe if the Cowboys had no running game, ala the Cardinals with Boldin and Fitzgerald - then maybe I would say he was overrated. But he fulfilled his role. That's why I can't call him overrated.

The only reason I would consider him overrated is that he couldn't produce even close to his numbers in Tampa Bay. Much like Larry Brown, Jimmie Jones, Kevin Gogan and Ken Norton, he wasn't truly great, but got paid like it in the early days of free agency.

 

[DallasDomination]

Roy Williams- I never found him to be that special. I still love hte guy to death and cant deny his BIG play hability, but he's overrated a little IMO.

 

[Ring Leader]

Jackie Smith

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

i know im gonna get heat for this but i think H. Walker was a little overrated

I think that's an excellent choice. Most fans will still swear up and down that Herschel would have been one of the top rushers in NFL history if teams had used him right but if you read Jimmy Johnson's autobiography, even he will admit that he was disappointed with what he saw in Walker and thought he was overrated. Knew he could get a bunch for him in a trade though.