Murray offered 4yr/16mi

[CowboyStar88]

Marshawn Lynch is in the 3rd year of a 4 year/30 million dollar contract, 17 million of which is guaranteed. The Boys will probably have to get at least into that neighborhood to sign DeMarco, IMO.

Is the 16 guaranteed? If so he's right there. Maybe we have decided not to offer fluff contracts anymore

 

[TheCount]

I see a lot of people throwing out numbers, but what's the guaranteed money. That's what matters.

People that want to do 16, 17, 18 million. I'm sure he'd consider it if it was all guaranteed, you willing to do that? Otherwise, you're going to have to up that overall number.

Otherwise, let's just let him go and roll the dice that we can find someone else.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Murray may be carrying the bacon, but he isn't going to do this behind most other OLs. I think the offer will go up, but I don't have an issue with it. He won't have this success elsewhere and should want to stay here above all. $4 million per year is nothing to sneeze at. It's 16 times more than Roger Staubach ever made here for a season and look what he turned his salary into.

You cannot compare salaries from different eras.

 

[Vanilla2]

Do any of you understand negotiations works?

 

[MRV52]

No ok running backs are a dime a dozen but if Jerry decides he's gonna settle for ok at that position prepare to see our run game suffer. Not every back can come in and play to the level this guy does. You can't pick any back out the draft and have him set a single game rushing record, and you won't find one to to go 100 yards five straight times to start the season.

Don't get me wrong I love the guy but business is business and you can't give a running back all the eggs in the basket. The 2 things I question Murray is his health and at times he has no vision of where to run and runs into the defenders when it could have been avoided if he chose the right option. Many times last year this happened but this year he seems better at it.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Lowball offer, but that's the business. I'm sure Murray understands this.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Murray is a good back and the idea he only has 3-4 years left is borderline ridiculous. He doesn't have the wear and tear most backs his age have due to the injuries.

Second, this OL has been crazy good....he has been getting 3 to 4 yds before contact several games this year, so I agree there are a LOT of backs that could give similar or slightly less ypc as Murray.

Ace in the hole for Murray is he isn't just a runner but is also a good pass catcher and a great pass protector.

I think somewhere between the 4m offered and 7m average of Lynchs deal is the right number. So 5.5m would be the target. I would have no problem giving him 4 years and would consider 5 for cap flexibility. Give him a LOT up front and have a 5th year you know they will either restructure or cut. Say 10 m signing bonus guarantee first 2 years salary of 3 and 5m. Can be like a 5 yr 30 mil deal that in reality is like a 4 year 22m deal with most received in first three years....if he is still playing well could be renegotiated after third yr.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

its a good offer too because murray has to take into consideration....he keeps running hard and gets hurt...then what is his contract going to look like? peanuts.

 

[NickZepp]

Murray is a good back and the idea he only has 3-4 years left is borderline ridiculous. He doesn't have the wear and tear most backs his age have due to the injuries.

The thing is Running backs shelf life in the NFL is short. Probably the shortest of any position in the NFL. And the fact that he's injury prone means he could be injured again. AD got re-signed big just a couple years ago and he's probably not gonna play another down in Minnesota again despite having a 2000 yard season just 2 years ago.

 

[gdogg24]

Don't get me wrong I love the guy but business is business and you can't give a running back all the eggs in the basket. The 2 things I question Murray is his health and at times he has no vision of where to run and runs into the defenders when it could have been avoided if he chose the right option. Many times last year this happened but this year he seems better at it.

Offering him 28 on a four year deal is being conservative for a guy who could reach 2k this year and depending on how the team does this year could be in the top two candidates for MVP. Health-wise the guy's on pace for 400 carries brittle backs don't get this far on that pace with no sign of slowing down. I'm telling you if Jerry lets Murray go we won't get to a Super Bowl with Romo as the QB.

 

[Aikmaniac]

As much as I love Demarco and have since the day he was drafted, I think he knows that he has little leverage due to his injury history.

 

[Bungarian]

franchise him

 

[waving monkey]

So Jerry has been responsible for overpaying players but now his irresponsible for making
a first offering to a player whose history shows some injury questions?

 

[rags747]

This will be Murray's last good contract, 4 yrs at 20-22m is plenty in my mind. If not then roll the dice with Randall and Williams + a draft pik in nxt yrs draft.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

an extra million for every game he doesn't fumble during the rest of the year

get er done Jerruh

 

[Galian Beast]

I'm sure in the contract negotiations the Cowboys brought up his fumbles and his injury history. I think Murray though would at least want an incentive laden contract similar to Sean Lee's.

And I'm guessing that will be the middle ground here.

Murray will want the capacity to earn top money, while the Cowboys will want in out if things do not work out.

They've been pretty creative with contracts lately, if you look at Sean Lee and Henry Melton. That being said, this could go down to the franchise tag, maybe even two years in a row.

There are a couple factors at play.

#1 Adrian Peterson
#2 Dez Bryant

If Peterson is available, the Cowboys might make a move to get him behind this line for a couple years. If Dez Bryant can't be resigned this year, he might command the franchise tag.

 

[yimyammer]

Here is the bottom line....you can't work the man like a mule...then NOT pay him. If so many other RBs can run behind this OL....then how come there are other RBs on this team collecting a paycheck that are NOT earning a dime of their money? Heck Escobar probably makes more than Murray! I do not want to overypay....but your gameplan indicates he is the most important player on this team....so you should pay him accordingly. Personally I think they work him too much. And that could be why Jerry suggested last week that they need to work Murray a little less...because they are not interested in a 7m/year RB. I think he is better suited having his carries reduced to around 20 a game...and having those 20 carries be as explosive in December as they are in October. So Garrett and the front office need to get on the same page regarding his worth.

That'll play out, its the start of negotiations. The reality is that the market value has severely dropped for running backs and thats the reality of where the league is now. If the Cowboys or any other team blow out the current market to acquire his services, I think that's bad business and bad for the team and I'll like to see this organization from doing this going forward.

 

[viman96]

I think it is a great offer and would only increase it $.5M per year if necessary.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

The thing is Running backs shelf life in the NFL is short. Probably the shortest of any position in the NFL. And the fact that he's injury prone means he could be injured again. AD got re-signed big just a couple years ago and he's probably not gonna play another down in Minnesota again despite having a 2000 yard season just 2 years ago.

For a reason that has nothing to do with his ability. Come on, man!

 

[Zordon]

I'm sure in the contract negotiations the Cowboys brought up his fumbles and his injury history. I think Murray though would at least want an incentive laden contract similar to Sean Lee's.

And I'm guessing that will be the middle ground here.

Murray will want the capacity to earn top money, while the Cowboys will want in out if things do not work out.

They've been pretty creative with contracts lately, if you look at Sean Lee and Henry Melton. That being said, this could go down to the franchise tag, maybe even two years in a row.

There are a couple factors at play.

#1 Adrian Peterson
#2 Dez Bryant

If Peterson is available, the Cowboys might make a move to get him behind this line for a couple years. If Dez Bryant can't be resigned this year, he might command the franchise tag.

cowboys/jerry can't mess up this ap thing. this is like a gift from the angels when you think about it. they might be able to get ap for 3yrs/9mill and allow us to focus our resources on dez, leary, harris, linebackers.