Murray won't get a big offer anywhere

[Setackin]

Even If he signs for that lower price (4yr/16 mil) I would still draft a RB somewhere... I still don't trust him to stay healthy... and like someone here said there are some good backs in this draft...

 

[Stash]

My hopes are he stays at a reasonable figure. If he chases the money, I want Peterson, Gurley, or Gordon.

Then we agree more than we disagree.

But I fully expect that Murray wants to test the market and the Cowboys have a set price and will let him.

If the market isn't what he expects, I can definitely see him returning. But I can just as easily see a team like the Colts.

If Peterson shakes loose from Minnesota early in the process, I can see the Cowboys having leverage and offering the same deal on a first-come, first-served basis between the two.

 

[LandryFan]

Luck is pretty much doing things by himself. I could see them paying Murray to get them over the hump.

Agree. As I was reading his post, Indy kept popping into my mind. I think he would be an important piece to their puzzle. Having said that, I have no idea what their cap situation or their philosophy on paying FA RB's is. I agree with his premise of keeping Murray at a moderate price, as most on this site do. He admitted that all it takes is one team willing to overpay but doesn't think that will happen. That's where I disagree. I just think there is at least one team out there that will do just that. I hope erod is right, though.

 

[Bullflop]

Murray is a very good back that will probably command somewhat more than Dallas has to offer. It doesn't necessarily have to be a blockbuster deal to cause him to depart for bigger bucks. With the battering he took this year, he probably won't be the same back he was with Dallas for whomever he goes to. It only takes one team to make a better offer to motivate him to leave. It appears pretty obvious by his demeanor that he feels unfairly shortchanged by the Cowboys' offer and I can't really say as I blame him. He's more than likely deserving of a bit more but our budget is extremely limited, due to salary cap restrictions. The extensive number of free agents we'll be inclined to sign should put an overwhelming burden on the team to allot big bucks for a RB. Enter the 2015 draft -- a terrific year for any team coveting an outstanding running back. They're simply quite abundant. Let's face it -- we just don't need Murray so badly that he can't be replaced with an astute decision being made.

 

[Stash]

Endorsements. Cost of Living in Texas. Comfort of staying where he is. High profile contender. Tremendous offensive line. Great friends in Garrett, Witten, Romo, and Dez. A life-long career after playing in Dallas. A shot at historical end to career.

Yeah, that offsets a few dollars. And Murray isn't the typical stupid athlete that doesn't think about these things. He's a smart dude.

He's also a very financially-conscious young man.

And I think that's a big reason why he will make a patient, informed decision.

He'll look at the market for his services before deciding anything. If the price isn't considerably higher than Dallas' offer? I can sure see him come back.

But if some team is willing to offer considerably more money?

I can also just as easily see him gone.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He can go to the following competitive teams and probably get paid more than 4 years 16 mill.

Indy
Seattle
Arizona
Ravens
Chargers
Giants
Falcons

I'm leaving a bunch of other teams out.

Indy has Bradshaw, Richardson and Herron. I don't think they spend money on Murray. There problem is not production. Richardson averaged 3.3 YPC (which is not great) but Bradshaw average 4.7 and Herron averaged 4.5. Indy was actually 5th in the league in rushing. I don't think they would spend big money to solve a problem that is not that big of a problem for them but anything is possible.

Seattle has BeastMode. If they are going to spend a lot of money, I think they would be more likely to just keep him rather then sign another player. Depends on how much we are talking about I guess.

Arizona has some good young players already at RB. I don't see them spending a lot at RB.

Ravens also have good young talent at RB. Same situation as Az.

Chargers, I don't know. That's a possibility.

Giants have issues in other areas they will need to address. I don't think they will spend a lot of money at RB.

Falcons need to spend on Defense. They need a lot of help on that side of the ball. They have Offense already. I don't think they spend at RB in FA.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I don't think so.

The draft is rich with running backs. I'd take Todd Gurley or Melvin Gordon over Murray right now without batting an eye.

You're pretending as if draft capital is not valuable. Yeah you draft Gordon in the first. You miss out on an impact player elsewhere.

In the grand scheme of things it's easier to sign a rb and draft a pass rusher. Than vice versa.

So in some cases... Maybe to the Colts... It's easier to buy rb in a soft market and draft x position in May.

 

[erod]

He's also a very financially-conscious young man.

And I think that's a big reason why he will make a patient, informed decision.

He'll look at the market for his services before deciding anything. If the price isn't considerably higher than Dallas' offer? I can sure see him come back.

But if some team is willing to offer considerably more money?

I can also just as easily see him gone.

And that's the point of my post. I just don't think there's a ton of money out there for him. The market is flooded, and it's not a highly valued position he plays.

 

[erod]

You're pretending as if draft capital is not valuable. Yeah you draft Gordon in the first. You miss out on an impact player elsewhere.

In the grand scheme of things it's easier to sign a rb and draft a pass rusher. Than vice versa.

So in some cases... Maybe to the Colts... It's easier to buy rb in a soft market and draft x position in May.

True, and that's why running backs are going in the second and third rounds. Murray was the all-time TD scorer in Oklahoma history and built like AP, and Dallas took him in the 3rd round.

My point is in this thread, I'm not sure this massive pile of money is out there for him. He and Dallas are waiting to see.

 

[Jenky]

Indy has Bradshaw, Richardson and Herron. I don't think they spend money on Murray. There problem is not production. Richardson averaged 3.3 YPC (which is not great) but Bradshaw average 4.7 and Herron averaged 4.5. Indy was actually 5th in the league in rushing. I don't think they would spend big money to solve a problem that is not that big of a problem for them but anything is possible.

Seattle has BeastMode. If they are going to spend a lot of money, I think they would be more likely to just keep him rather then sign another player. Depends on how much we are talking about I guess.

Arizona has some good young players already at RB. I don't see them spending a lot at RB.

Ravens also have good young talent at RB. Same situation as Az.

Chargers, I don't know. That's a possibility.

Giants have issues in other areas they will need to address. I don't think they will spend a lot of money at RB.

Falcons need to spend on Defense. They need a lot of help on that side of the ball. They have Offense already. I don't think they spend at RB in FA.

1) Bradshaw always gets hurt. Richardson is a bust. He's been deactivated I think.
2) Marshawn might be cut, age and money factor.
3) Arizona wants Andre Ellington to be that guy. No one really knows if he is. He's been hurt and a huge question mark.
4) Chargers are giving up on Mathews. Brown and Oliver can't carry the load.
5) Giants with Murray would make me throw up. Rashad Jennings is old and Andre Williams was a rookie this year.
6) Falcons have needed defense for the past 5 years. But I can still see them getting a RB. They need one. Steven Jackson is done.

Also, I intentionally left out the non competitive teams.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Why match a young QB with an old running back?

Draft a young one for cheap.

A vet RB who is reliable in protection and a good pass catcher really helps any young qb, maybe more so than a one-dimensional younger one.

 

[erod]

Again, nobody is more inclined to pay Murray than Dallas. Other teams don't have the same affinity for him as the Cowboys. He's one of them.

Murray isn't quite the kind of back teams freak out to pay huge money. If he was, then the Cowboys would do it themselves.

 

[50cent]

Murray's lack of production prior to the formation of this gem of an offensive line work against him in that comparison.

The single most ignorant statement of this awful post! The guy averaged 5 yards a pop for his CAREER before this linewas assembled. Before Fred and before Martin ever suited up for Dallas. He did it behind the likes of Costa too! He may not garner a huge contract, but to say old and lack of production when he's basically been a 1,000 yard every year but 1.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

True, and that's why running backs are going in the second and third rounds. Murray was the all-time TD scorer in Oklahoma history and built like AP, and Dallas took him in the 3rd round.

My point is in this thread, I'm not sure this massive pile of money is out there for him. He and Dallas are waiting to see.

Did you.... Did you just say Murray was built like Adrian Freaking Peterson?

Wow.

 

[erod]

Randle and Dunbar averaged 5 a carry, too.

 

[KDM256]

I would stand firm on the 4million dollar range with huge player friendly incentives if he has another monster year.

 

[erod]

Did you.... Did you just say Murray was built like Adrian Freaking Peterson?

Wow.

Uh, yeah. He's known for that. I'm an OU guy.

He's about the same size, runs extremely physical, has an upright style like Peterson, and broke most of Peterson's records at OU.

I'm certainly not saying he's as good as Peterson. Doesn't have the breakaway speed.

 

[50cent]

Randle and Dunbar averaged 5 a carry, too.

With their career bests of 350 and 150 in a season respectively. And you talk about lack of production. Even more ignorant.

 

[erod]

With their career bests of 350 and 150 in a season respectively. And you talk about lack of production. Even more ignorant.

Wow, I'll try and make this easy for you. Murray never came anywhere near this year's production in a season before. He spent much of it hurt.

An "average" means what you did with the opportunities you were given. You made the comment about average per carry, not me. And that mattered for Murray before, but not Randle and Dunbar now? How selective of you.

There's a long list of backs that could have put up big numbers behind this line. The football world agrees with me.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

1) Bradshaw always gets hurt. Richardson is a bust. He's been deactivated I think.
2) Marshawn might be cut, age and money factor.
3) Arizona wants Andre Ellington to be that guy. No one really knows if he is. He's been hurt and a huge question mark.
4) Chargers are giving up on Mathews. Brown and Oliver can't carry the load.
5) Giants with Murray would make me throw up. Rashad Jennings is old and Andre Williams was a rookie this year.
6) Falcons have needed defense for the past 5 years. But I can still see them getting a RB. They need one. Steven Jackson is done.

I think Indy is going with Herron. Doesn't make much sense for them to spend a lot of money on RB when they need help in other places. They could but if you were them and you had a young Back averaging 4.5, would you spend a lot of money on Murray? I probably wouldn't.

Marshawn might be cut but it doesn't make much sense to cut him if you are only going to turn around and spend big money on another guy. Like I said, it depends on the money. Ask yourself, if Murray isn't getting big money, why would Marshawn think he would? I think it's more likely that they go younger or Lynch signs. We'll see what happens.

Arizona also has Stephon Tayler and Kyrwin Williams, both young backs. I think they will wait and see what happens with their QB situation and see what those young backs can do when they are not facing Defenses that only have to worry about stopping the run. Plus, Az is in a horrible cap situations. They are going to be hard pressed to sign the players they currently have.

Chargers, I don't know. They could be a team interested, as I said earlier. But they have a lot of key FAs and they will need to do something about their OL. Doesn't make much sense to sign a high priced FA RB when you have issues on the OL IMO. Smarter to get that figured out first and then go after a RB.

Giants are not going to sign Murray. They have issues all over their defense and they are going to be hard pressed to fix that. I don't see it but I guess it's possible. If they do bring somebody in, it's not going to be an FA RB at 5 Million plus. It's going to be a cheaper guy or a Draft Pick IMO.

Falcons have a lot of FAs on Defense they will need to get worked out. They have some space but is a big FA RB where they will spend it? I guess we'll see.