My theory on the Dak contract

TheSport78

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Nice post. I agree. But I also believe that they truly don’t believe in him. This is the second time they’ve done this with his contract waiting to the very end “prove it deal” type of thing. They paint themselves in the corner however by having no backup plans. They want Lance to be that but he’s not. He can’t throw.

They cave because of relevancy. We’ve watched the Hard Knocks etc. When you don’t have a QB your team is cooked. Think about this. The Chicago Bears have never had a 4,000 yard passer! They have been living in purgatory for decades. Yes they made a SB since us, but that was all on the defense with Tillman and Urlacker.

It’s a lose lose situation unless Dak wins it all. Highest paid QB? Or No QB?
Does Dak give them a reason to believe in him with a 2-5 playoff record in nearly a decade?
 

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….or the businessman Jerry Jones doesn’t know what to do with Dak, whom he has already spent $160,000,000.00 on, with nothing to show for it…
 

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Since the last time Dallas was in a Super Bowl (1995), 16 QBs have won Super Bowls, some 30 Super Bowls. There have been over 400 QBs that started for teams during that time period. It ain't easy getting there and definitely not easy winning it. We do expect more from our QBs but reality is that is ain't just the QB. Defense still wins championships, always has. It is rare that once the playoffs start that a team gets blown away.

Blame Dak for some of them but he didn't give up 48 points to GreenBay, he didn't give up a last second field gold where Rodgers went some 60 years in 30 seconds to win on a last second field goal. The defense gave up 30 points to the Rams and still a one score game, the year Goff got the Rams to the Super Bowl, and the other 2 losses were one score games. It takes a team to win and a team to lose.

Give up on Dak if you want but there is no guarantee that some rookie will lead us to the Super Bowl if we even could get a top pick in 2025 draft. Everyone seems to want Sanders or maybe the next year in Manning but odds are we (Jerry) will never give up the draft capital it would take to move from the 20s and 30s to get there. So the we hope for another Dak in the 4th round or Brady in the 6th.

It is your opinion, mind is that Dak has been 12-5 for last 3 years and if luck holds at least that again and a playoff spot and hopefully get lucky with a late 1st or 2nd round pick that can learn for a couple of years under Dak. Everyone gave up on Manning and Elway winning or getting to a Super Bowl and I believe both were at 7 years and beyond. Winning the season is important and I for one would rather be in the playoffs every year than on the outside looking in.
How many QBs have gotten past the first round consistently and into the conference championships or played in one? You forgot that part of your calculation..
 

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here is a good chart to show when a teams last div round win was. if they win div round they go to a conf champ game.
The texans are never, but they could change that soon, so could miami.
If Quinn gets wash on track they could in next few years.
Cleveland is possible, but like dallas they are very good at self destructing.

GEaoxY0XkAAiHXb
 

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here is a good chart to show when a teams last div round win was. if they win div round they go to a conf champ game.
The texans are never, but they could change that soon, so could miami.
If Quinn gets wash on track they could in next few years.
Cleveland is possible, but like dallas they are very good at self destructing.

GEaoxY0XkAAiHXb
Wow! That’s just depressing
 

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I think the main reason that the Cowboys haven’t resigned Dak to a new contract is his impact on the salary CAP - not so much this year’s CAP, but the CAP for future seasons.
I think Jerry hasn't re-signed Dak yet because he isn't winning in the playoffs and this is a prove it year.
I think it's actually a combination of both. I've been saying this. A 3rd contract after you've been pushing money forward every year is very difficult. Especially when it isn't an elite QB. It doesn't make cap sense. QBs not named Mahomes with a 15-20% cap hit don't get to super bowls.
 

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here is a good chart to show when a teams last div round win was. if they win div round they go to a conf champ game.
The texans are never, but they could change that soon, so could miami.
If Quinn gets wash on track they could in next few years.
Cleveland is possible, but like dallas they are very good at self destructing.

GEaoxY0XkAAiHXb
Why do we never get an easy divisional opponent? Lions got to play the 9-8 Bucs for Gods sakes!! The last 7 times we were in the divisional round we would have stomped that Bucs team.
 

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really so you're gonna want to pay prescott 75 million in dead cap over 2 years with him not here just to clear the books for 5-10 year stretch of truly bad records?? since when does the cap dictate what fans feels is best for the team. Daks best for this team the next 3 years ..redo it short term or not..NO Dak = the start of terrible stretch, hello Dave campo years. 12-15 bad qbs until we land one.,

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by the way i hope you're happy with when Daks not here and you can have all these shiny toys you want, here come 6 wins maybe 8 =See NY Jets, Washington, and Giants, doesn't matter what you have elsewhere.

if Dak truly leaves,

IM trading away everyone lamb, parsons, and Diggs Tank and martin retired, gone , whatever than you keep Bland and Carson. Easy to project Huh?? how's Lance to Flournay sound.. get ready.
Trance to anyone sounds horrific.
 

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Knowing Jerry's ego and ways, I'm pretty sure he hates the fact that Dak has held most of the power in negotiations. No-trade clause, no franchise tag and other verbage has rubbed him raw since the last deal was done. The money I'm sure is a concern, but not being in control is even more concerning to him. Time will tell, but I won't be surprised to see Dak back, and even less surprised if he's not
 

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If I’m Jerry I let Dak play out in 2024, sell off my good older players for draft capital (Dlaw, Martin), go 0-17 in 2025, and get Archie Manning in the draft. If I’m really crazy I bench Dak and let Lance play now and see if Dak wants to find a trade partner for draft capital
 

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Since the last time Dallas was in a Super Bowl (1995), 16 QBs have won Super Bowls, some 30 Super Bowls. There have been over 400 QBs that started for teams during that time period. It ain't easy getting there and definitely not easy winning it. We do expect more from our QBs but reality is that is ain't just the QB. Defense still wins championships, always has. It is rare that once the playoffs start that a team gets blown away.

Blame Dak for some of them but he didn't give up 48 points to GreenBay, he didn't give up a last second field gold where Rodgers went some 60 years in 30 seconds to win on a last second field goal. The defense gave up 30 points to the Rams and still a one score game, the year Goff got the Rams to the Super Bowl, and the other 2 losses were one score games. It takes a team to win and a team to lose.
I don't blame Dak for the playoff losses.
I blame him for *his play* in them.
He's often played poorly in the playoffs. Not always.
But the last two games against SF were pathetic, and while Dak got some garbage time stats against GB when the game was out of reach, he helped dig the hole with 2 early INTs.
 

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Jerry has a simple mind when it comes to building a team. The GB loss left a bad taste in his mouth. Not just questioning Dak as the future but MM as well. As stated above, this is a prove it year.

Too bad Jerry and Stephen don’t have to prove themselves.
 

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I don't blame Dak for the playoff losses.
I blame him for *his play* in them.
He's often played poorly in the playoffs. Not always.
But the last two games against SF were pathetic, and while Dak got some garbage time stats against GB when the game was out of reach, he helped dig the hole with 2 early INTs.
Agreed. People keep blaming the defense. But our offense struggled mightily to move the ball the entire first half, and to start the second half. I don't think we win that game even if our D played better. It would be closer, like against the 49ers.
 

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If I’m Jerry I let Dak play out in 2024, sell off my good older players for draft capital (Dlaw, Martin), go 0-17 in 2025, and get Archie Manning in the draft. If I’m really crazy I bench Dak and let Lance play now and see if Dak wants to find a trade partner for draft capital
All they have to do is start Lance in 2025. I don't see us winning a lot of games.
 

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Why do we never get an easy divisional opponent? Lions got to play the 9-8 Bucs for Gods sakes!! The last 7 times we were in the divisional round we would have stomped that Bucs team.
Why cant dallas beat GB ?? 3 losses to them !
Then 2 to SF
It is luck of the draw, and you cant rely on luck , to play a team that isnt good.

Many thought GB, a 7 seed was a easy team to beat last year , but surprise !!
 

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Why cant dallas beat GB ?? 3 losses to them !
Then 2 to SF
It is luck of the draw, and you cant rely on luck , to play a team that isnt good.

Many thought GB, a 7 seed was a easy team to beat last year , but surprise !!
I wasn't tlking about this team. I was talking about our past teams. As we saw, this GB team wasn't trash. They almost beat the 49ers. We never almost beat the 49ers.
 

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I think Jerry wants to sign Dak. I think he looks at Dak and knows he is what he wants in a Dallas QB, the face of the franchise. What Dak is asking for and willing to accept is out of Dallas's budget. It's that simple. They see Dak as the very nice car in the showroom, that due to some poor money management won't be able to afford. It's a nightmare that i can see it and its perfect for me but can't afford it.

I'd like to purchase that car, I know it would be a reliable car. it looks nice and it's my dream car. What most people are saying at this point is, "just go ahead and pull the trigger. Don't worry about the payments, don't worry about whether its a fiscally smart move." I know it's the market and you have to pay the market for that type of car. Doesn't even take into consideration if I can move heaven and earth to gather up that much money to make the initial payment. Sure someone else will move right in and buy my dream car. Maybe if I had managed my money better and saved and bought it last year I could've saved some money. But the reality is , in my current economic situation and simply can't afford it and will have to settle for something less and hope that it gets me to where I wanna go.
 
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