MySa Blog: A few players question roster moves

[Chocolate Lab]

Actually, it sounds to me like he meant that Glenn met #1, but not #2 and #3. Reeves met all three. I agree, if those are your qualifications, then cut him.

Maybe you're right. I was just thinking about Wade saying the other day that Glenn was what he'd been for a while, a part-time player. It seems like he had no faith Aaron could play entire stretches of games anymore, while maybe Reeves can.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Roy is just upset because of the friendship they shared. Of course he would be pissed his friend isnt there.

Agreed. I suppose AG was something of a psychological security blanket for the entire secondary - if not a physical one. it just sounds to me like the respect and fondness a younger player has for the expertise of an older one who was willing to impart some of his knowledge.

it certainly does not read mutinous, but everything Roy says does seem to get that special 'treatment'.

I don't wonder about #31's s press sensitivity - he can't even display the normal affection a db has when a comrade leaves - geez, this blogger should have heard what Lawyer Milloy had to say when Pete Carroll cut Willie Clay in '99.

 

[ddh33]

No kidding. I think it's a great compliment to this team and this secondary that they shared that kind of bond. Now, if Roy quits playing football for the Cowboys or decides to sit out games in protest, then you can complain. Nothing wrong with being mad about a friend getting fired though...

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Maybe you're right. I was just thinking about Wade saying the other day that Glenn was what he'd been for a while, a part-time player. It seems like he had no faith Aaron could play entire stretches of games anymore, while maybe Reeves can.

Even if/though Glenn couldn't go a full sixty minutes, I sure would have felt better knowing he could play thirty if needed. Reeves suddenly being better
scares me. Hopefully we won't have to find out all at once.

 

[AbeBeta]

God forbid you may need to step up and show some leadership, Roy. 5 seasons, 4 probowls, you'd think he could finally accept that he needs to be the veteran leader of this secondary.

Does anyone remember the scene in Bull Durham where Costner takes Robbins aside and teaches him cliches for dealing with the press. Roy sure could use that lesson. How about this "we sure appreciate everything Aaron did here and we will all miss him. but we've got some great young players who are ready to step up and take the 3rd CB role." Is that REALLY so damn hard?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

God forbid you may need to step up and show some leadership, Roy. 5 seasons, 4 probowls, you'd think he could finally accept that he needs to be the veteran leader of this secondary.

Does anyone remember the scene in Bull Durham where Costner takes Robbins aside and teaches him cliches for dealing with the press. Roy sure could use that lesson. How about this "we sure appreciate everything Aaron did here and we will all miss him. but we've got some great young players who are ready to step up and take the 3rd CB role." Is that REALLY so damn hard?

Maybe Roy honestly doesn't see it that way.

 

[Nors]

This is why Parcells tried to not let his players and coaches talk to the media.

It's on Phillips to coach and keep the team on the same page. He's a great guy, great X&O Defensive Coordinator but this is a shot at the team bow by Roy.

I'm Phillips I take Roy aside ASAP and talk to him.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

God forbid you may need to step up and show some leadership, Roy. 5 seasons, 4 probowls, you'd think he could finally accept that he needs to be the veteran leader of this secondary.

Does anyone remember the scene in Bull Durham where Costner takes Robbins aside and teaches him cliches for dealing with the press. Roy sure could use that lesson. How about this "we sure appreciate everything Aaron did here and we will all miss him. but we've got some great young players who are ready to step up and take the 3rd CB role." Is that REALLY so damn hard?

I doubt Roy will ever be the kind of leader in the secondary Woody is. I mean, was.

That doesn't mean he represents a leadership void. It simply means he is not yet as secure in his own assignments to be directing others on a steady basis, and it also means personality-wise he is not a 'natural leader'.

The secondary leader is going to be Newman - I think that's clear enough. He has more of the complete package for his position, he defines 'cover corner' in a way Roy will NEVER define 'saftey', even if he racks up 15 Pro Bowls, five rings and the HOF, Williams is fundamentally a hybrid, and a more unique talent.

I think with #31, it's best just to let Roy BE Roy. Expectations he can't meet, be they in coverage or 'traditional' leadership just serve to mask the incredible talent he has - and which can be more wisely utilized and channeled.

No Pro Bowl is going to convince Roy Williams he has the 'right' to be a Darren Woodson on the field or in the locker room. Only consistency on the field will do that. Hopefully, Phillips' plans for him will give him that. Then I think we will see Roy both step up the active leadership more, and stop being hypersensitive to criticism.

 

[FLcowboy]

...........And on the other topic, hey Roy: If you think this creates a leadership void, why don't you step up and try to fill it?

What, and have to take the blame himself?

 

[LaTunaNostra]

And we 're off! LMAO!!

 

[BigDFan5]

or money matters to jerry. it seems to me jerry took a miscalculated risk that he could survive a week without aaron glenn and re-sign him on week two so his whole salary wont be guaranteed and it backfired. is not as if he hasn't tried this cheapskate move before. they can talk up reeves and jones all they want and if newman comes back healthy none of this will matter eventually. the first time eli connects deep on the left corner side and madden makes a comment on how could newman or glenn would have fared, wade & jerry's mug will be screen and the second guessing will explode.

yup Jerry the cheapskate, that is realistic :laugh2:

 

[iceberg]

I for one don't like Roy Williams questioning the coaching staff. That didn't happen under Parcells.

neither did playoff wins.

pacells is gone - let him go now. please?

 

[dooomsday]

neither did playoff wins.

pacells is gone - let him go now. please?

Excellent backhand.

 

[Clove]

I realize that players really become fond of certain players, and I know players such as RW have concerns in the secondary and all, but basically you should keep your opinions to yourselves when it comes to personell decisions.

Roy should worry about things like making tackles and wrapping up instead of trying to knock every player out.

 

[peck-sicilyisland]

Those two guys could have help this team in the middle of the season stay together.Thats crazy!

 

[Rampage]

wow! roy williams needs to just shut up and play? now i see why roy rarely talks to the media . but that aside roy has been 1 of the best players on the team since he has got here. he had his ups and downs last season but it happens. this defense has underachieved the last 2 years and everybody including the almighty tnew and ware need to put up or shut up

 

[CrazyCowboy]

It hurts to see your teamates cut........

 

[dogunwo]

And on the other topic, hey Roy: If you think this creates a leadership void, why don't you step up and try to fill it?

 

[LaTunaNostra]

It hurts to see your teamates cut........

That's right and sometimes it's the team leader who says so. You are all spared the Pats news I am subject to by location, but the Milloy-Clay thing I referenced earlier was interesting in that it was Lawyer, the undisputed team leader (Bledsoe had abdicated that role by then, or simply had it usurped) ,who spoke up about a late summer cut to the secondary.

The more I think about it, the more I see that Roy actively taking the active spokesman role, stating his feelings and very likely those of his teammates, IS a sign of leadership. Leading the players does not always mean agreeing with management. If Mike Strahan or Brett Farve said it, it would be widely criticized, but it would be seen as a sign of leadership. With #31, it's just whining?

This will all mean nothing in a day (it means little now), but what will be remembered is Roy spoke up for a teammate he thinks was given the shaft.

That may not go over big with the coaches, media or some of us, but it will with his teammates.

 

[Sarge]

Some of you posters tickle me.... Players have a right to question things just like employees have a right to get mad about situtions on the job.

Ya, but voicing your opinion over managerial moves (if this is even true) in a negative way is simply stupid. Nothin good can come of it.