Myth of no open receivers

Romotil45

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,102
Reaction score
764
You are just picking on one small part of my entire post. My main point was the pic theogt posted is not close to what actually happened in the play. Go read the all post from the beginning if you want. And why are you pretending like you don't regularly post negatively about Dak?

I am critical of Dak yes and other players as well when they have poor games because I'm objective You should here me scream at Romo when he's a bonehead lol. My wife is afraid I will have a heart attack lol.
 

Romotil45

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,102
Reaction score
764
So you accusing me of having no football knowledge isn't a personal attack? You seem have issues with selective memory.

Yeah I'll admit that's kinda harsh but it's true you either cannot understand that QBs don't wait for recievers to look back or your just passionate about defending Dak. So I ll apologize because it was harsh but not ment to be a personal attack was ment to help your future analysis arguments.
 

Kevinicus

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,886
Reaction score
12,670
You are just picking on one small part of my entire post. My main point was the pic theogt posted is not close to what actually happened in the play. Go read the all post from the beginning if you want. And why are you pretending like you don't regularly post negatively about Dak?

In the case of that play, the posted still was 100% accurate. The entire play has been posted in this thread and confirms it.

I don't post negatively about Dak. I post objectively about Dak.

He's a rookie, I understand he has issues. I don't hold it against him. He has played very well considering.

I am negative towards the decision to sit the better player.
 

Gameover

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,792
Reaction score
3,442


I still haven't gotten over this loss

I knew we were going to lose when choice didn't score

We should've won this game

Romo in the cold

Romo didn't see a wide open crayton on the last 4th&10
 

Romotil45

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,102
Reaction score
764
In the case of that play, the posted still was 100% accurate. The entire play has been posted in this thread and confirms it.

I don't post negatively about Dak. I post objectively about Dak.

He's a rookie, I understand he has issues. I don't hold it against him. He has played very well considering.

I am negative towards the decision to sit the better player.

Your not alone.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,145
Reaction score
20,600
In the case of that play, the posted still was 100% accurate. The entire play has been posted in this thread and confirms it.

I don't post negatively about Dak. I post objectively about Dak.

He's a rookie, I understand he has issues. I don't hold it against him. He has played very well considering.

I am negative towards the decision to sit the better player.

Really? This is what he posted saying Bease was wide open and Dak missed him.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak3.gif

The reason he looks this wide open is because the ball was already thrown to Dunbar and the defenders are running toward Dunbar.

In reality, when Dak had to throw the ball due to the pressure, it looks like this.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak2.gif

You have a LB right in front of Bease. You have Jenkins at the same level as Bease reading Dak's eyes. The route Bease ran, Dak would have to throw the ball between where Bease (hash mark) and Jenkins is.

Had Dak thrown the ball, Jenkins has as much chance getting to it as Bease does. Bease wasn't wide open. Add to that Dak had LB blitzing toward him unblocked and a DLinemen closing in. Only receiver that was really wide open was Dunbar in this play.

So to post the first pic and saying Bease was wide open is not 100% correct.
 
Last edited:

Kevinicus

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,886
Reaction score
12,670
Really? This is what he posted saying Bease was wide open and Dak missed him.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak3.gif

The reason he looks this wide open is because the ball was already thrown to Dunbar and the defenders are running toward Dunbar.

In reality, when Dak had to throw the ball due to the pressure, it looks like this.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak2.gif

You have a LB right in front of Bease. You have Jenkins at the same level as Bease reading Dak's eyes. The route Bease ran, Dak would have to throw the ball between where Bease (hash mark) and Jenkins is.

Had Dak thrown the ball, Jenkins has as much chance getting to it as Bease does. Bease wasn't wide open. Add to that Dak had LB blitzing toward him unblocked and a DLinemen closing in. Only receiver that was really wide open was Dunbar in this play.

So to post the first pic and saying Bease was wide open is not 100% correct.


:facepalm:

You have no understanding of anticipation.
 

WillieBeamen

BoysfanfromNY
Messages
16,334
Reaction score
47,722
Dak was horrible this game and was missing open receivers but that play where we think Beasley is open, was NOT a bad decision by Dak.

Campo breaks it down in this tweet



Jenkins was watching Dak and wouldve drifted back to Beasley if thats where Dak went with it.
 

theebs

Believe!!!!
Messages
27,462
Reaction score
9,207
:facepalm:

You have no understanding of anticipation.

Dave campo is on twitter. Someone showed him this and he shot it down explaining how jenkins would keep getting deeper to take that corner away from beastly if dak tries to throw it.

Its interesting. The Commanders and vikings ran that corner route every time they wanted on the same defense when we ran it.
 

Kevinicus

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,886
Reaction score
12,670
Dave campo is on twitter. Someone showed him this and he shot it down explaining how jenkins would keep getting deeper to take that corner away from beastly if dak tries to throw it.

Its interesting. The Commanders and vikings ran that corner route every time they wanted on the same defense when we ran it.

I considered that when I first watched the play, but Jenkins makes a move up to cover the WR in front of him.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,145
Reaction score
20,600
Dave campo is on twitter. Someone showed him this and he shot it down explaining how jenkins would keep getting deeper to take that corner away from beastly if dak tries to throw it.

Its interesting. The Commanders and vikings ran that corner route every time they wanted on the same defense when we ran it.

And that's what I posted with the pic above.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,145
Reaction score
20,600
I considered that when I first watched the play, but Jenkins makes a move up to cover the WR in front of him.


Just give it up. Stop embarrassing yourself. Yeh we get it. You want Romo and will take every opportunity to make Dak look bad. Even using bogus pics. :facepalm:
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,202
Reaction score
64,709
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Dak was horrible this game and was missing open receivers but that play where we think Beasley is open, was NOT a bad decision by Dak.

Campo breaks it down in this tweet



Jenkins was watching Dak and wouldve drifted back to Beasley if thats where Dak went with it.

Great example of how fans can't get the concept of where the WR and DBs will be once the ball arrives vs where they are when the all is still in the QBs hands. What appears to be open to some fans is indeed not really open.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,145
Reaction score
20,600
Dak was horrible this game and was missing open receivers but that play where we think Beasley is open, was NOT a bad decision by Dak.

Campo breaks it down in this tweet



Jenkins was watching Dak and wouldve drifted back to Beasley if thats where Dak went with it.


I said the exact same thing. I also said the throw to Dunbar was the best decision on this play. It was 2 and 15. Dak needed to get some yards back so that the 3rd down is more manageable. And Dak was able to complete the 3rd down pass to Dez for first down on the next play.
 

raichledog

Active Member
Messages
373
Reaction score
204
Really? This is what he posted saying Bease was wide open and Dak missed him.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak3.gif

The reason he looks this wide open is because the ball was already thrown to Dunbar and the defenders are running toward Dunbar.

In reality, when Dak had to throw the ball due to the pressure, it looks like this.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak2.gif

You have a LB right in front of Bease. You have Jenkins at the same level as Bease reading Dak's eyes. The route Bease ran, Dak would have to throw the ball between where Bease (hash mark) and Jenkins is.

Had Dak thrown the ball, Jenkins has as much chance getting to it as Bease does. Bease wasn't wide open. Add to that Dak had LB blitzing toward him unblocked and a DLinemen closing in. Only receiver that was really wide open was Dunbar in this play.

So to post the first pic and saying Bease was wide open is not 100% correct.

Jenkins, if you look closely, and more importantly, watch the play, is driving off of his left foot towards Dez. Beasley is in full stride up the field. Jenkins is NOT in a position to make a play on a ball thrown to Beasley. Saying he could have broken up an accurate throw to a WIDE OPEN Beasley is just silly. They are moving in opposite directions. Dak has not even released the ball and Jenkins is already driving AWAY from Beasley.
 

Kevinicus

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,886
Reaction score
12,670
Just give it up. Stop embarrassing yourself. Yeh we get it. You want Romo and will take every opportunity to make Dak look bad. Even using bogus pics. :facepalm:

The only one embarrassing themselves in this thread has been you.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,145
Reaction score
20,600
Jenkins, if you look closely, and more importantly, watch the play, is driving off of his left foot towards Dez. Beasley is in full stride up the field. Jenkins is NOT in a position to make a play on a ball thrown to Beasley. Saying he could have broken up an accurate throw to a WIDE OPEN Beasley is just silly. They are moving in opposite directions. Dak has not even released the ball and Jenkins is already driving AWAY from Beasley.

Jenkins is playing zone and is looking at Dak to see where the ball would go. Jenkins is going toward Dez because Dak is turning toward Dez and Dunbar as Dak is getting ready to throw the ball to Dunbar. Had Dak started to throw toward Bease's direction, Jenkins would have went toward Bease and not Dez.

Here is a pic right before Dak starts to turn toward Dez and Dumbar.
As you can see, Jenkins is watching Dak and is in position to make a play toward either Bease or Dez.

http://i124.***BLOCKED***/albums/p15/zman55/beaseDak4.gif
 
Last edited:
Top