Myth of no open receivers

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The play I posted after that with Beasley was even worse, and potentially would have won the game if Beasley jukes the safety.

So the $70 million question is, "Does Romo see it and can he make the throw? Is he still the same guy he was in 2014?"
 

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4th quarter drive. 3rd and long. Dak throws to Williams who is stopped short of the sticks. But there are not other open receivers, huh? Dez isn't wide open?

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This is a great example of why a still shot can lie but video can tell the whole story. Everyone pay attention ...

Cowboys go five wide. Giants counter by rushing six. Dak has a edge rusher coming unblocked from his left side. To counter this Williams runs a quick post from the side of the unblocked blitzer. Dak receives the snap and immediately looks left to his hot receiver, Williams. Dak never looks right because those aren't the hot receivers and he doesn't have time to look to both sides of the field. He has to immediately catch and throw or risk a sack. That's not something that's dumbed down for Dak .. that's not something Romo would do .. it's something every quarterback would do because it's how they are coached.

Now let's talk about Dez. He is NOT open for one very big reason ... he's not looking at the quarterback. He has no reason to because he's not the hot receiver. He runs his route and eventually is open but the ball has already been thrown because of the blitz. It's no good to get open after the pass is thrown. Dak and Williams did exactly what he was supposed to do but the defense made a solid tackle to deny the first down.

Now you could say that Dak could have thrown to Beasley on the other side but usually the throw goes to the side where the blitz is coming from. You could say that if Dak had been a little more precise and hit Williams more in stride he would have got the first down. That you could argue. Arguing that Dez was open and he should have thrown to him is silly.
 

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So the $70 million question is, "Does Romo see it and can he make the throw? Is he still the same guy he was in 2014?"

I don't know but the good news is we ARE going to get that opportunity. We will see Romo very soon wouldn't surprise me to see him this week.
 

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4th quarter, 2:31 left in the game. Just need a field goal to tie. 2nd and 10.

Look at Beasley. LOOK AT BEASLEY. Is he open? Are there "no receivers open"? This play could virtually tie the game up.

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This is a pic that doesn't tell the full truth until you actually see the film. Beasley is running hard and doesn't turn to look for the ball until the ball has already been thrown to Dunbar. The ball is thrown as Beasley is making his cut and starts to look back.

Dak looks like he is actually looking at Bease but he checks it down to Dunbar as the pocket starts to collapse. Had Bease started to look back a second sooner, I'm sure Dak would have thrown it to him.
 

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Dak struggled to read the field in college. It was an issue earlier in the season. People talked about it in wins against Washington. Wins all season long.

Suddenly people are surprised and are attacking Dak if they point this out? It's stupid.

Right now Dak is the weakest link on our offense. He's been that way all year. And it cost us Sunday. That doesn't mean he's horrible or not the future. That means he's a 4th round rookie driving a Porsche. And he he's been doing a good job but Sunday he scuffed the bumper trying to parallel park.
And he certainly gets a chance to buff it out in a few days...hopefully he does. However, a rookie has never quarterbacked a team to a Superbowl in the history of the NFL...let alone actually winning it. The road only gets harder from here on...
 

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This is a great example of why a still shot can lie but video can tell the whole story. Everyone pay attention ...

Cowboys go five wide. Giants counter by rushing six. Dak has a edge rusher coming unblocked from his left side. To counter this Williams runs a quick post from the side of the unblocked blitzer. Dak receives the snap and immediately looks left to his hot receiver, Williams. Dak never looks right because those aren't the hot receivers and he doesn't have time to look to both sides of the field. He has to immediately catch and throw or risk a sack. That's not something that's dumbed down for Dak .. that's not something Romo would do .. it's something every quarterback would do because it's how they are coached.

Now let's talk about Dez. He is NOT open for one very big reason ... he's not looking at the quarterback. He has no reason to because he's not the hot receiver. He runs his route and eventually is open but the ball has already been thrown because of the blitz. It's no good to get open after the pass is thrown. Dak and Williams did exactly what he was supposed to do but the defense made a solid tackle to deny the first down.

Now you could say that Dak could have thrown to Beasley on the other side but usually the throw goes to the side where the blitz is coming from. You could say that if Dak had been a little more precise and hit Williams more in stride he would have got the first down. That you could argue. Arguing that Dez was open and he should have thrown to him is silly.
On that play, I think Williams was the right choice. But the thread title isn't about whether he made the right read on a blitz. It's about whether receivers were open. Some people were thinking the receivers were being blanketed every play. I'm just showing that's not true. Sometimes a receiver can be wide open and it doesn't matter because of something else in the play. But people cannot use the excuse that receivers weren't open for this game.
 

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4th quarter, 2:31 left in the game. Just need a field goal to tie. 2nd and 10.

Look at Beasley. LOOK AT BEASLEY. Is he open? Are there "no receivers open"? This play could virtually tie the game up.

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Yeah, Beasley looks blatantly open there. :(
 

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Then your the only person I've communicated with today that has studied the all 22 and feels good going forward thats 16 others that disagree with you including myself.

You need to get around more. Read through the thread "Sturm says there were no open receivers" and you'll find my full review and others who have seen the All-22 and plenty of folks who see that Dak wasn't the biggest problem. From Sturms' twitter is sounds like he'll also come out with an article saying about the same thing.
 

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I don't know but the good news is we ARE going to get that opportunity. We will see Romo very soon wouldn't surprise me to see him this week.

In my opinion, the only way we should see Romo this week is if Dak has an absolutely miserable first half.
 

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It's hard to guage from photos without info like down and distance. I'm sure Dak missed some open guys, but for the most part Witten was doubled and Dez strugged to do much vs Jenkins. Plus open in photos isn't open on the field from ground level in real time
Pretty much. Also on some of these you can see if he throws the ball the play might get int or wouldn't be as open as the photo looks. Now some plays I'm certain people were open but all those pictures? Please if it was that bad I think the coaches might have thought about putting Romo in lol.
 

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I noticed Dak has been holding on the ball longer waiting for bigger plays to develop past few weeks even when it's not needed. Not sure if it's due to coaching or play design.

Funny thing is people used to complain about him being a dink and dunk QB earlier in the season. Saying that he can't make big chunk plays.

I prefer he go back to how he played earlier in the season. Mostly shorter passes with couple of long passes thrown in. He is going for the bigger plays much more than he needs to and it hasn't worked out for him.

I believe teams originally wanted to make him dink and dunk and wait for him to make a mistake. Now they are trying to make him go deep and it's working much better.
 

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In my opinion, the only way we should see Romo this week is if Dak has an absolutely miserable first half.
I think that's the likely route. If Dak plays poorly in the first half and we're behind, it will be Romo coming in to start the 3rd.
 

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So the $70 million question is, "Does Romo see it and can he make the throw? Is he still the same guy he was in 2014?"

Won't know unless he plays. Of course, we don't have many meaningless games to find out in after that debacle the other night.
 

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You need to get around more. Read through the thread "Sturm says there were no open receivers" and you'll find my full review and others who have seen the All-22 and plenty of folks who see that Dak wasn't the biggest problem. From Sturms' twitter is sounds like he'll also come out with an article saying about the same thing.

Read what Sturm says and forget what your own eyes see huh ? Lol good tactic keep going with that one it might work someday.
 

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I think that's the likely route. If Dak plays poorly in the first half and we're behind, it will be Romo coming in to start the 3rd.

I think the leash is longer. He would have to be an abomination to get yanked this week.
 
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