Name the one Cowboy you hope is cut next year

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The30YardSlant;3146613 said:
There are, at any given time in the NFL, no more than 2 or 3 corners who don't get burned atg least a few times a year. Newman used to be one of them, and he is still a very solid player.

Newman hasn't given up more than four or five completions in the past three games combined. But several of them were big plays, so now a lot of people seem to think he stinks. Those people just don't have any perspective whatsoever.
 

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AdamJT13;3146622 said:
Newman hasn't given up more than four or five completions in the past three games combined. But several of them were big plays, so now a lot of people seem to think he stinks. Those people just don't have any perspective whatsoever.

I think it's mostly because we have such high expectations for him as a player, that when we see him give up crucial plays on 3rd down, it really disappoints us; especially after he got a new contract last year.
 

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Newman said that the coverage got out of wack.He also said that his job on the play was to jam and re-direct the receiver at the line.He also said something about trying to be in a position to make the qb put some air under the ball.

Craig
 

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Randy White;3146214 said:
Crayton is THE perfect slot/3rd receiver guy. He can move the chains, he can catch passes over the middle, and he runs very precise routes.
Crayton brings nothing to the table, if his body and brain were as talented as his mouth, he'd be all world.
 

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so you want to cut Flo - I keep as a backup - to big of a contract - plus he should be teaching the younger guys something

Hamlin to big of a contract

RW to big of a contract

MB III to big of a contract
 

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UnoDallas;3146634 said:
give the name of ten CB's that are better than Newman ?

right off your head ?

no using the computer
If Newman isn't Top 10, he's right outside of it.


CB is not our problem on D.

The lack of pass rush outside of Ware, and pass cov. at ILB and Safety are.
 

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The30YardSlant;3146598 said:
I'm not missing anything. The defensive call was doomed to fail from the beginning, but Sensabaugh should have recognized that he couldnt do anything with the slot-reciever, played Jackson over the top and prayed that Rivers threw it his way (which he did). One of the first things they teach you as a DB in grade school is don't leave a second receiver open for the sake of trying to get to a receiver who you clearly can't make a play on, it only exacerbates the problem. Now the QB has TWO open receivers to pick from. What could have been an INT was the backbreaking play of the game for us.


Wow... where to begin..

First of all, YOU are arguing that YOU know better than Tony Dungy who not only has forgotten more football, in the time it took you to type up that dribble, than you will EVER learn, but actually has a Hall of Fame career based on the subject ( cover 2 defense ) YOU think you know more of.

If this was a made up post, I would have dismissed it as a bad practical joke.

Second:

That rambling you just post had absolutely NOTHING in common with the play in question. Sensabaugh was caught in a no winning situation. There's a slot receiver ( #11 ) running straight at him unchecked. YOU are saying he should just let him go and " pray " Philips Rivers don't see him ? That's a hell of a defensive philosophy.

But I digress.

Sensabaugh sees #11 running straight down the field unchecked. His instints is to check on him FIRST because, as the defensive play calls for, he SHOULD have time to check on the other receiver who's running the same route who SHOULD have been bumped at the line of scrimage AND thus slow down his route. In other words, Sensabaugh should have had time to play THE BALL instead of the man, which is what, basically, deep safeties in cover 2 defenses are supposed to do. Since Newman did NOT do what he was supposed to do, Sensanbaugh's hesitation in checking an uncovered receiver running straight at him was enough to allow the ball to get to Jackson who was sprinting down the sidelines, beating Newman by about 4 steps.

Once again, the defensive play should have never been called, or checked out of, the minute the Chargers came out on that formation ( which was 3 receivers to the right ).

I mean, seriously, arguing with a future HOF coach about a subject he's an expert on while watching the film PROVING his point ? :eek:
 

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AdamJT13;3146574 said:
Funny how NONE of the cornerbacks on the field did what Dungy said they supposedly should have been doing.

That's because cover 2 defenses doesn't necessarily apply to the both sides of the field. Notice how the other safety, Ball ( #20 ), drops back about 5-7 yards after being lined up right next Jenkins who was about 8 yard off of his receiver ( which tells him there's no help over the top for him ) to tthe first yard marker over the center of the field, picking up the receiver that had lined up as a TE.

Then notice how Sensanbaugh is lined up 15 yards off of the LOS and Newman right in Jackson's face, which means Sensanbaugh is supposed to be taking care of the deep part of the field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcO7srR3pS0

That means the Cowboys were playing straight up man on the left side of the field and cover 2 on the right. Two VERY different techniques.

Norv busted that cover 2 by sending the slot receiver down the middle to make Sensabaugh hesitate which allowed River's pass to get to Jackson. It's the same play he used to beat the Giants on the last drive at the Meadowlands.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3145432 said:
Do fans Count?:D

Player...Folk.
Coach...Wade.
Gm...Jerry

Well, I should get two out of three.:D

Why'd you capitalize Count?! Are you taking a shot at me BP?! Why I aughta...
 

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nick folk , sorry missing 40 yard field goals is not acceptable. We could of really used those points in the last 2 games
 

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Clove;3146636 said:
Crayton brings nothing to the table, if his body and brain were as talented as his mouth, he'd be all world.

Crayton has 500 yards and 4 TDs on 57 passes attempted to him. That's 22 less att than Roy Williams, 36 less attempts than Austin Miles, and 46 less attempts than Jason Witten.

You can say he has a big mouth that sometimes write checks that his butt can't cash in, but you can't say he brings nothing to the table.

He is the protypical slot/3rd down receiver.
 

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craig71;3146628 said:
Newman said that the coverage got out of wack.He also said that his job on the play was to jam and re-direct the receiver at the line.

Yea, it got out of wack because he didn't do what he was supposed to and it snowballed from there.

He also said something about trying to be in a position to make the qb put some air under the ball.

Which is exactly why the defense broke down when he didn't do his job. Jackson ran free down the sideline, Naanee ran free down the harsh marks, Sensabaugh hesitated the second he saw Naanee running without anybody around him and that allowed Jackson to get to the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcO7srR3pS0
 

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Barbie Carpenter(wasted 1st round)
K.Hamlin(too much $)
Spears(resign for less $)
TNew (or ristructure his contract)
Flo( old and exp. contract)
 

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Not saying that it would necessarily be a good move, but I'd like to see Flozell move on elsewhere.

He personifies the error-prone, shoot-yourself-in-the-foot inconsistency that haunts the team. I think it sends the wrong signal for him to be one of the team's highest paid players. I'd be happier to see Free get a shot.
 

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Randy White;3146672 said:
That means the Cowboys were playing straight up man on the left side of the field and cover 2 on the right. Two VERY different techniques.

In other words, it was NOT Cover 2. It was a combination coverage, and it looks like we were trying to disguise it before the snap.
 

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41gy#;3145721 said:
A winning team, with a 3-4 year window, would pay a whole lot of money for Newman. Newman is a pure cover CB who still runs a mid 4.3, and he has the respect of the NFL executives and GMs.

I don't know if Newman was supposed to jam that guy on that 3-12 or not. I was just listening to Tony Dungy. Sensabaugh got there a little late, because the slot guy was open. Newman denied the inside, but Rivers stuck it outside, in a tight window, near the sidelines.


Anyway, the CBs are strong on the team.

The team needs a ballhawk FS.

Still, you hold SD to 20 points and can't score 24 when you should have and lose.

20 points was SD's season low.

So Newman, I mean T-Toast, is a 4.3 pure cover corner???

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

As for the 3rd and 12 pass, T-Toast didnt deny jack on that play. The reciever blew past T-Toast like he was a freaking statue and Rivers just laid the ball out in front of him. There was no tight window Rivers fit the ball into, most Div 3 Qbs could have thrown that pass.

I thought you were saying yesterday that "I cant defend Newman anymore", and now today Newman is back to being a super blue chipper 4.3 shutdown corner???

Whats up with the flip flop???
 

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UnoDallas;3146639 said:
so you want to cut Flo - I keep as a backup - to big of a contract - plus he should be teaching the younger guys something

Hamlin to big of a contract

RW to big of a contract

MB III to big of a contract

What is Flozell going to teach anyone? How to be an underachieving loser? How to trip people? How to hold? How to twitch more than my eye when I'm nervous?
 
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