Nashon Wright & Trysten Hill

[pancakeman]

Both of these guys are probably going to be at best rotational players. Hill as a 2nd rounder should have been a starter by now. Wright as a 3rd rounder is probably never going to be more than a good ST player and an occasional situational defensive back. That’s best case scenario.

Only around 26% of defensive linemen drafted in the second round become starters.

 

[kskboys]

Only around 26% of defensive linemen drafted in the second round become starters.

I find it hilarious how people don't understand how few draft picks make it. It's even apparently lower than many believe for 1st rounders.

 

[Bobhaze]

Magic 8-ball strikes again.

It’s just an opinion about a couple of players- which I could be wrong about. Just as you could be in yours. That’s what happens in an opinion forum right?

 

[kskboys]

It’s just an opinion about a couple of players- which I could be wrong about. Just as you could be in yours. That’s what happens in an opinion forum right?

Not if you give long enough answers!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Both of these guys were draft mistakes. Both should've been taken in the late rounds. Didn't understand either pick and don't see how either made any sense at the time, and they haven't started making any more sense since then.

Hill was rated a 6th/7th, and there wasn't a lot on Wright, what I saw was a late round/UDFA projection.

 

[Aven8]

Hill is not a bad player he’s just small IMO. He’s a decent rotation guy, but nothing more. At least he’s not a total bum

 

[jazzcat22]

Hill needs to go. If he is still on the roster it's because of where he was drafted and/or because the team continues to be unable to evaluate their own talent. The last two years we had 4 DTs on the initial 53. There are 5 guys ahead of Hill. Plus there is talk of Golston rotating in on passing downs and in certain nickel formations Tank did also. The only chance is we go 5 deep and don't keep Watkins. Watkins isn't great but he is better than Hill. Or I guess if the team is only going to pick one of Ridgeway and Bohanna but that still may not clear enough space for him.

Gallimore
Osa
Bohanna
Watkins
Ridgeway

Don't be surprised if Hill beats out Bohanna or Ridgeway, and on talent not draft status.

 

[ondaedg]

From what I've seen, Hill has been breaking through for some would-be sacks. I'm not sure how his run defense has been, though, since that was his main area of weakness. I also don't know who he has been getting those sacks against.

Hill is a gap shooter and not much more. On run plays when he is engaged by a guard he ends up on the opposing team’s bench. He can be useful on pass plays but his strength at point of attack is awful.

 

[jazzcat22]

Both of these guys were draft mistakes. Both should've been taken in the late rounds. Didn't understand either pick and don't see how either made any sense at the time, and they haven't started making any more sense since then.

Hill was rated a 6th/7th, and there wasn't a lot on Wright, what I saw was a late round/UDFA projection.

Not sure about the 6th or 7th for Hill. I seen as high as a 2nd, but most were 3rd and 4th. Wright was maybe ranked 5th if that high.
I do agree, both were taken too high.

 

[JustChip]

Only around 26% of defensive linemen drafted in the second round become starters.

There ya go, bringing facts into an emotional rant. See that doesn’t happen again.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Picture of Hill with a few other current/former NFL players.......couple former Cowboys in the picture also (lol)

 

[Jarntt]

Why are you so obsessed w/ Hill?

Did I start a Trysten Hill thread? Ever? Don't we discuss topics as they are posted on here? Isn't that the purpose? As far as Hill goes. He stinks. Any other questions?

This you?:

Both of these guys were draft mistakes. Both should've been taken in the late rounds. Didn't understand either pick and don't see how either made any sense at the time, and they haven't started making any more sense since then.

Hill was rated a 6th/7th, and there wasn't a lot on Wright, what I saw was a late round/UDFA projection.

 

[gimmesix]

Hill is a gap shooter and not much more. On run plays when he is engaged by a guard he ends up on the opposing team’s bench. He can be useful on pass plays but his strength at point of attack is awful.

That's definitely what we've seen from him in the past. Linemen get under his pads and uproot him or turn him against the run. Against the pass, they have been able to guide him out of the way, actually taking advantage of his quickness and gap shooting to run him out of the play. Those knocks against him are no different than they were in college and are primarily because of technique issues. I can't tell enough from the footage available if he's worked on those technique issues.

 

[stinkface]

Not buying the Hill hype.

He does this every year...his problem is he is Mr. Almost. He is in a constant state of penetrating and almost making a play. He doesn't have it in him.

I welcome him to prove me wrong but until then....nope.

He is pretty trying to swim upstream in a strong current with alligator arms. In short it's not happening. I see nothing to this point that indicates he has a burning desire to succeed. He will be gone by the end of the year unless he is traded for a late round section. Maybe we get a 5th rounder. Maybe lower. Most folks have no problem figuring out who does the least with the most. Another Taco type pick. Why in the world do we select folks who have a history of being a slacker.

 

[kskboys]

Not sure about the 6th or 7th for Hill. I seen as high as a 2nd, but most were 3rd and 4th. Wright was maybe ranked 5th if that high.
I do agree, both were taken too high.

I also saw some UDFA for both.

Hill was a late riser, sorta like Gavin Escobar.

 

[kskboys]

He is pretty trying to swim upstream in a strong current with alligator arms. In short it's not happening. I see nothing to this point that indicates he has a burning desire to succeed. He will be gone by the end of the year unless he is traded for a late round section. Maybe we get a 5th rounder. Maybe lower. Most folks have no problem figuring out who does the least with the most. Another Taco type pick. Why in the world do we select folks who have a history of being a slacker.

Because we all too often take draft risers and fallers. Hill was a late draft riser. Not to mention being a weirdo.

Taco was taken about where he was slated to go, but we sure did ignore a lot of signs to take him, one year wonder type and really bad at learning playbook type being the two standout ones.

 

[kskboys]

That's definitely what we've seen from him in the past. Linemen get under his pads and uproot him or turn him against the run. Against the pass, they have been able to guide him out of the way, actually taking advantage of his quickness and gap shooting to run him out of the play. Those knocks against him are no different than they were in college and are primarily because of technique issues. I can't tell enough from the footage available if he's worked on those technique issues.

I think it has more to do w/ balance issues. Hill has a freaky quick first step, and that's about it. His other traits are all below average.

 

[kskboys]

Did I start a Trysten Hill thread? Ever? Don't we discuss topics as they are posted on here? Isn't that the purpose? As far as Hill goes. He stinks. Any other questions?

This you?:

No, but your idea is cut him, cut him, cut him. Screaming CUT HIM is not discussing. Why not let someone beat him out first?

I never liked the Hill pick, and hope we have enough talent so we can cut him.

 

[stilltheguru]

Notice he doesn't do interviews anymore and teammates rarely bring him up? He's a weirdo for sure. Atleast be a weirdo and productive smh

Because we all too often take draft risers and fallers. Hill was a late draft riser. Not to mention being a weirdo.

Taco was taken about where he was slated to go, but we sure did ignore a lot of signs to take him, one year wonder type and really bad at learning playbook type being the two standout ones.

 

[quickccc]

DTs (five)
1 Osa
2 Gallimore
3 Hill
4 Watkins
5 Winner: Ridgeway vs Bohanna ?

CBs (six)
1 Diggs
2 Brown
3 Lewis
4 Joseph
5 Wright
6 Goodwin or Bland ?

Five DEs (DLaw, Williams, Armstrong, Golston, Fowler)
Four safeties (Kearse, Hooker, Wilson, Bell)