Nate Newton: Dak Prescott Is Not Worthy of a Big Contract

[JoeKing]

Wow intelligent response. You left out some of the usual buzzwords "agenda" "the real reason" etc.

I chose my words carefully. I could have just as easily said some of the people are not haters and are not Romo fans.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Depends on what your perspective of “big” is. Unfortunately for QBs, all contracts are larger than most.

Middle of the pack would be $18/$19 million which is what Tannehill / Keemun make. From a talent perspective this is probably where Dak falls.

My guy says the FO loves him and will likely give him something in the low 20s and overpay him.

I need to see more, bc what I’ve seen this year does not warrant a $20+ million contract.

With all due respects here Dak is not a Middle of the pack QB....more like bottom 5 .....and he would sign even at league Min as Dak knows better than most how blessed he is to have this Job...(the most coveted Job in the NFL) with a Grade D arm and a Grade F head....man Dak would be fine making millions selling endorsements as long as he can keep the Job... Jerry you old fool you better not give this bus driving couldnt hit the barn QB a new deal....trust me he aint going anywhere fast...nobody wants him...not even CFL...

 

[JoeKing]

If that's the plan, let him play out his rookie contract and tag him. That would give the Cowboys 5 years to evaluate him, which is far too long IMO. They are nuts to give him a huge overpaid contract anytime soon.

Why are you saying "if" as if I'm lying to you? I'm not lying to you, that's what Jerry and Stephen said. You don't have to agree with the plan but don't accuse me of lying to you.

 

[aikemirv]

This would be a great opportunity for Dak to prove he's a leader, and take the low priced contract that would help the team surround him with the talent he needs around him.

I have no issue with Dak getting what the market would bear. I would just make him test the market (and play another year) before I paid him big bucks

 

[Jenky]

Why are you saying "if" as if I'm lying to you? I'm not lying to you, that's what Jerry and Stephen said. You don't have to agree with the plan but don't accuse me of lying to you.

I know that's what they have touted and I'm not sure I believe them.

 

[JoeKing]

What does history tells us......how many players get the big 2nd contract
......and.....their level of performance drops off big time, at least for the first 3 years of the 5 year deal.

is it predictable dak does????....# of tv commercials already for a mid level qb, limited skills evident that get further neglect, stops working on film, ability to read a d.

Did Romo improve beyond year 3? Did any starting QB that we have had that long? Yes... so history says Dak will too.

 

[Rockport]

Love Nate but he’s got a few peas short of a casserole.

 

[JoeKing]

I know that's what they have touted and I'm not sure I believe them.

Then say it that way instead of wording it as if I'm lying to you. I only stated what Jerry and Stephen have said. I'm not sure it was wise to tip there hand that way either but it's what they said.

 

[DallasEast]

Contracts are designed to retain a player's sense of security and perceived self-worth to the team. This consideration is ignored by those sharing Sanders and Newton's ideology.

A player and his agent may review his contract opportunities beyond his current employer and understand he may attract lower compensation than what he seeks currently. In other words, another team could pay the player a SMALLER contract.

Anyone self-engrossed in the 'Pay him what he is worth' mentality, like Sanders and Newton, automatically agree the player should be allowed to walk in that situation. However, the market has determined the player's value will be meet elsewhere. Thus, the current employer must address two scenarios:

• Allow the player to sign elsewhere, albeit at a contract smaller than the one which could have been extended to him, and hope another player will instantly replace his preceived value to the team.
• Sign the player to a HIGHER contract than one that the player could get elsewhere, secure the player already on the roster, and satisty existing confidence by retaining a known commodity.

Interpreting and reacting to the market is a TAD more complicated than the Sanders/Newton ideology understands.

Economics.

 

[JoeKing]

Love Nate but he’s got a few peas short of a casserole.

Yeah, it's not like Nate now has Will McClay's job, he's in the media department. He's a good dude but he's not known as a sage of advice.

 

[sbark]

Did Romo improve beyond year 3? Did any starting QB that we have had that long? Yes... so history says Dak will too.

There are examples of qb's around 3+ years that did not also
Quincy, none of the baseball players that Jerry expiermented with, the big kid out of west Texas state and others drafted in similar areas that just went sideways at best

Then the problem of what money and security seems to do to some, the edge comes off

 

[Redline360]

lol amazing that folks here think that Dak is worth 16-18 million a year???? He will go down in Cowboy History as the most expensive "Bus Driver" in the NFL.....

What do you think he's worth?

 

[G2]

Did Romo improve beyond year 3? Did any starting QB that we have had that long? Yes... so history says Dak will too.

I'm thinking we'll see improvements moving forward, he's a hard working kid that is focused on improving. Fans aren't patient and think an elite QB comes in a box.

 

[JoeKing]

There are examples of qb's around 3+ years that did not also
Quincy, none of the baseball players that Jerry expiermented with, the big kid out of west Texas state and others drafted in similar areas that just went sideways at best

Then the problem of what money and security seems to do to some, the edge comes off

Quincy was not consistently the starting QB for 3 seasons so I'm not talking about him or any of the other people you brought up. You didn't listen well to what I said. Don't ignore what I said and pretend you contradicted me when you did not.

 

[JoeKing]

I'm thinking we'll see improvements moving forward, he's a hard working kid that is focused on improving. Fans aren't patient and think an elite QB comes in a box.

Exactly my point. Thank you.

 

[conner01]

What team besides the cowboys would offer Dak 20 million a year?

That’s what people were saying about cousins before someone did

 

[conner01]

What team besides the cowboys would offer Dak 20 million a year?

Go look at case Keenan’s contract
25 mil

 

[DuncanIso]

Nate said 13-15 million per year max is enough for Dak.

Spend that on Flacco. He should be available in March.

 

[Doomsday101]

I could see a lower base salary given to Dak with escalation clauses in the contract that could increase the value of the deal if certain things are met

 

[yimyammer]

Who said he should take less than he's worth? I said it would be a good opportunity to prove his leadership, by taking a deal that would allow the team to surround him with everything he needs to succeed. If he can't succeed with less, he's not worth it.

Not only that, it would actually be in Daks best interest (& most other QBs) not to think solely about maxing out his contract. Sure, its gambling on one's health but he and many other QBs would be better served and might make more long term by taking less annually so a better team can be constructed around them

Longevity, winning, the QBs legacy, marketing opportunities outside of football, etc are served by understanding the cap effect on building a winning team, thus why one of the best QBs in the league takes so much less and is still playing at 40 and beyond:

Tom Brady is the 21st highest paid QB at 15 million, wonder why that is?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/