NBA 2015 Season Talk

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I just hope it doesn't turn into a Grant Hill type deal.

Grant Hill will say himself, he took the "Andrew Toney" route. instead of being careful, he was rushed back on multiple occasions, and it kept making his ankle worse. He mentioned this on NBA roundtable, as well as showing his surgically repaired ankle.... (NBA Channel/ TNT?)

This is from an article on fox sports: (This is why I am happy that they shut KD35 down... take the rest... lesson in history)

“I (had been) told everything was fine. I even found out that certain team doctors were questioning whether I was really hurt, thinking I was soft or whatever. This was after I had pulled myself from Game 2 against the Heat. At that time, when I found out I had broken my ankle, as crazy as this sounds, I was relieved. I finally had some confirmation, I finally had proof that I’m really not making it up.”
“They had me out there playing,” Hill said. “I might play once a week. My ankle was hurting. I wasn’t really supposed to be out there. I wasn’t supposed to be playing. I’d never really been hurt before so I didn’t know what rehab really was. I’m trying to play. I’m icing all the time. I’m getting through the month, probably playing pickup three or four times in the whole month. We get to training camp, I might have practiced once or twice during camp. I stumble through preseason playing three or four games.

On Halloween, the Magic opened the season with an 11-point victory over the Wizards. Hill was in the starting lineup.

“The next day the doctor who performed (my) surgery picks the paper up and saw that I played like 30 minutes and he was irate,” Hill said. “I wasn’t supposed to be on the court doing basketball-related activity until December. So somewhere along the line, the ball was dropped. And certainly I didn’t know that until the doctor informed me of that. Apparently he had forwarded all the information down there to Orlando. I was told to follow the instructions. I played in another game in Miami the next night and they shut me down to do rehab for five or six weeks. By then it was too late. What should’ve been a six- or seven-month recovery before you get on the court to play, I was on the court in three or four months.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/grant-hill-says-detroit-orlando-mismanaged-injuries-042711

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

quick note.. this is also why i'm happy that philly sat both noel, & embiid out for the entire season.. and as far as I'm concerned, both were the best players in their drafts.

 

[Biggems]

Well, two very nice wins in a row for the Spurs, but they are still only the 6th seed. They have done it to themselves. They have simply given away too many games this year, such as the 3 OT loss to Memphis, the Knicks game, the Cleveland game, etc. They have been playing much better as of late, building big leads. Yet, they have had trouble holding onto the leads. Still, I like that they are healthy, starting to click, getting the bench back into the fray, and playing better defense.

I said they would be no worse than the 3 seed come playoff time. They basically have to win out to achieve this, but they need help. Houston has been playing very well, and now Howard is back (Spurs play Houston 2 more times). The Clippers are finding their groove. Portland has been struggling, but they are still staying afloat. Memphis has been struggling since the All-Star break, but they still have a stranglehold on the 2 spot.

So until the mathematical possibility is no longer, I pick the Spurs as the 3 seed.

Over in the East, I see the Hawks vs. the Cavs for the right to play in the Finals.

 

[bounce]

Playoff Spurs approaching. They have not reached their final form.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

OKC hanging onto that last playoff spot by a thread.... Anthony Davis got some huge footsteps.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

top 5 pick two years from now... (possibly top two with thon maker)
Ben Simmons... he's 6'10"!!!

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Mavs D is atrocious

 

[Rockport]

Playoff Spurs approaching. They have not reached their final form.

But they're getting close. Totally destroying teams of late. Very good teams.

 

[jterrell]

Mavs D is atrocious

Mavs problem is either/or.
They have a tremendous top 5 defensive grouping but with those 5 in the game they can't score.
That's why Rick does so much late game off/def sub stuff.

They defended late last night but only with subs in for each defensive set.

What the Mavs do really well is not turn the ball over.

 

[jterrell]

top 5 pick two years from now... (possibly top two with thon maker)
Ben Simmons... he's 6'10"!!!

yea, kid is a tremendous prospect. compares to KD.
likely needs 3-4 years in the NBA to mature and grow.
6'10" with legit ball handling and shooting is just not fair to high school kids, lol.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Mavs problem is either/or.
They have a tremendous top 5 defensive grouping but with those 5 in the game they can't score.
That's why Rick does so much late game off/def sub stuff.

They defended late last night but only with subs in for each defensive set.

What the Mavs do really well is not turn the ball over.

They do have several really good defensive players... just not enough two way players.

 

[jterrell]

They do have several really good defensive players... just not enough two way players.

yup. dirk's decline hurts there. as does parsons being injured.

barea, ellis, parsons, dirk, stoudemire is a top 5 offensive group
rondo, harris, jefferson, aminu, chander is a top 5 defensive group.
sadly next to no overlap.

rick carlisle is pretty much a magician tho and i am willing to see what he does with those mixed pieces before writing off the season.
i am hoping for the rockets round 1.
i'll take rick versus mchale....

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

yup. dirk's decline hurts there. as does parsons being injured.

barea, ellis, parsons, dirk, stoudemire is a top 5 offensive group
rondo, harris, jefferson, aminu, chander is a top 5 defensive group.
sadly next to no overlap.

rick carlisle is pretty much a magician tho and i am willing to see what he does with those mixed pieces before writing off the season.
i am hoping for the rockets round 1.
i'll take rick versus mchale....

at this point i even think rondo is overrated as a defender... too many times i see guys go by and he's reaching from behind trying to make up, or not fighting through picks....

And yeh... carlisle is an a elite coach, so the season isn't written off... but you know defense is the staple in winning big.. so they got work to do.

 

[jterrell]

at this point i even think rondo is overrated as a defender... too many times i see guys go by and he's reaching from behind trying to make up, or not fighting through picks....

And yeh... carlisle is an a elite coach, so the season isn't written off... but you know defense is the staple in winning big.. so they got work to do.

definitely work to do.
on rondo i think he is actually underrated defensively now. he is a very good rebounder and his long arms cause guys issues.
he is not a lockdown guy but there are very few good PG defenders.
it is largely an offensive position in the current NBA.
Rondo is far better defensively than Westbrook or Harden(i've watched both a couple times the past 10 days and they are really bad defenders when asked to defend the PG). --obviously both out of this world on offense.

in fact PG has become so offensive-minded this is getting to be very much like the Showtime era.
so much offense....

 

[Tabascocat]

All I know is that the Rockets are in trouble, fielding a D league team out there now

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

definitely work to do.
on rondo i think he is actually underrated defensively now. he is a very good rebounder and his long arms cause guys issues.
he is not a lockdown guy but there are very few good PG defenders.
it is largely an offensive position in the current NBA.
Rondo is far better defensively than Westbrook or Harden(i've watched both a couple times the past 10 days and they are really bad defenders when asked to defend the PG). --obviously both out of this world on offense.

in fact PG has become so offensive-minded this is getting to be very much like the Showtime era.
so much offense....

I agree with this

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

All I know is that the Rockets are in trouble, fielding a D league team out there now

Beverly, & Montiejunas is out... Howard is back, T Jones is back... is someone else out? Btw, they should give KJ some run.. kid can defend.

edit: Papanikolaou been out as well.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Another Battling for the crown of number 1 prospect in the 2016 draft... Haiti's own....
Skal Labissiere... UK signee... 7fter...

 

[Roadtrip635]

Beverly, & Montiejunas is out... Howard is back, T Jones is back... is someone else out? Btw, they should give KJ some run.. kid can defend.

edit: Papanikolaou been out as well.

Big game tonight! The Rockets should bring more urgency than the last game, but still expect to see my Spurs take over the #2 seed.

 

[Biggems]

Spurs are now the 3 seed......if they win out, they will be no worse than the 3 seed....if Utah can be Memphis, the Spurs will be tied with the Grizzlies. However, I think the Grizzlies may win the tiebreaker, not sure.