NBA 2016 Offseason: Draft, Trades & Free Agency

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I don't love what he did off the courts. I mean, that's just plain stupid but on the court, I think Russell actually had a pretty decent rookie season. He was 5th among all Rookies in scoring average, 4th in APG and pulled down just over 3 boards a game. I'd actually say that his rookie year was pretty solid.

I agree

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree

I can see the Lakers moving him if they see somebody they think is just as good or better at the Guard spot. I mean, the Lakers actually have pretty good depth at guard. The off the court stuff is hard to predicts. I mean, regardless of what you might think of the behavior of Nick Young, it's just beyond stupid to snapchat locker room talk. I honestly don't even know what could have been running through his mind there.

I could see the Lakers moving Russell but I don't know if they would do it for anything lower then a top 5 pick. Trading a 2nd over all for a top 5 pick this year is questionable, in terms of value, but I could see it happen under the right conditions.

 

[jterrell]

I don't love what he did off the courts. I mean, that's just plain stupid but on the court, I think Russell actually had a pretty decent rookie season. He was 5th among all Rookies in scoring average, 4th in APG and pulled down just over 3 boards a game. I'd actually say that his rookie year was pretty solid.

he played on a trash can team and was forcefed minutes so his stats are inflated by total. he shot 41% from the field and turned it over almost as often as he got assists.
cuertas had a higher apg as a rookie on the same team.

russell is on the block because it is virtually impossible to recruit guys to play with him after the locker room stunt.
he still has a high ceiling but he had no business going that high in the draft... as i noted last off-season.

porzingis and KAT are what stud rookies looks like.
okafor had a poor rookie season as well but at least he is big.
mudiay had 5.5 apg and is a substantially better athlete.

russell finished with a single solitary point in rookie of the year voting.
okafor who was bad had 34 points.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I can see the Lakers moving him if they see somebody they think is just as good or better at the Guard spot. I mean, the Lakers actually have pretty good depth at guard. The off the court stuff is hard to predicts. I mean, regardless of what you might think of the behavior of Nick Young, it's just beyond stupid to snapchat locker room talk. I honestly don't even know what could have been running through his mind there.

I could see the Lakers moving Russell but I don't know if they would do it for anything lower then a top 5 pick. Trading a 2nd over all for a top 5 pick this year is questionable, in terms of value, but I could see it happen under the right conditions.

In theory getting a top 5 for russell makes sense, as does a top three for okafor... but several things.. everyone likes the shiny new object, one year off of the rookie contract means one year closer to restricted free agency, & who has the leverage?... if teams know you want to trade someone, you lose leverage... My personal opinion for the Sixers is to hold onto Okafor until the trade deadline...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

he played on a trash can team and was forcefed minutes so his stats are inflated by total. he shot 41% from the field and turned it over almost as often as he got assists.
cuertas had a higher apg as a rookie on the same team.

russell is on the block because it is virtually impossible to recruit guys to play with him after the locker room stunt.
he still has a high ceiling but he had no business going that high in the draft... as i noted last off-season.

porzingis and KAT are what stud rookies looks like.
okafor had a poor rookie season as well but at least he is big.
mudiay had 5.5 apg and is a substantially better athlete.

russell finished with a single solitary point in rookie of the year voting.
okafor who was bad had 34 points.

I don't know about that JT. I mean, he shared minutes with Clarkson, Williams, Huerta and Young at both Guard positions. The Lakers did give him minutes but Clarkson got more minutes then did Russell and Williams was really not all that far behind. Huertas did have a higher APG ratio last year, but that doesn't change the fact that Russell was still ranked 4th among all rookies in that stat (3.3). Huerta was actually 3rd among all rookies (3.4). The case can actually be made that Huerta's success actually hurt Russell's stats but that's here nor there to me. One guy plays minutes and produces, the other guy plays minutes and produces. It's also true that Mudiay had better stats here as well but then again, he lead all Rookies in that stat but, does he show up in scoring or rebounding? Porzingis had a great rookie year and, IMO, was probably the ROY so no real argument from me on who had the better season but He's not a PG so his job, as a Rookie coming in, is not as difficult IMO. He isn't responsible for running the Offense. PG is a lot harder position to play, as a Rookie, in the NBA IMO. Same story with Townson.

Russell was not perfect but I don't think anybody is saying he was. He had a solid year as a Rookie. Top 10 among all Rookies in PPG, APG, 3 Pt%, FT%, SPG and MPG. That's not bad production.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Here in NY the word is their goal is to place him next to a more athletic 5.... Noah, & Howard are names being mentioned. I personally would go Noah. Winning intangibles, unselfish, can put the ball on the floor....

I think Pau Gasol has a real chance of happening. I know SA would like to add him, but I know Phil and Pau are real close, so he may end his career with Phil

 

[kev8822]

he played on a trash can team and was forcefed minutes so his stats are inflated by total. he shot 41% from the field and turned it over almost as often as he got assists.
cuertas had a higher apg as a rookie on the same team.

russell is on the block because it is virtually impossible to recruit guys to play with him after the locker room stunt.
he still has a high ceiling but he had no business going that high in the draft... as i noted last off-season.

porzingis and KAT are what stud rookies looks like.
okafor had a poor rookie season as well but at least he is big.
mudiay had 5.5 apg and is a substantially better athlete.

russell finished with a single solitary point in rookie of the year voting.
okafor who was bad had 34 points.

Russell is not on the block. It's just stupid rumors made up by GM's to get other teams to up the ante.

 

[Silver Surfer]

ESPN and Yahoo Sports reporting Thaddeus Young traded from the Nets to Indiana for #20 and a future 2nd.

 

[TRUTH87]

As a bulls fan it was time to move on from Rose. He too needed a scenery change. No hard feelings wish em tha best.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

ESPN and Yahoo Sports reporting Thaddeus Young traded from the Nets to Indiana for #20 and a future 2nd.

that's an interesting move...Thad has always been solid

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Sixers maybe acquire the 3rd pick for Noel, 24, 26, and Robert Covington....


maybe... maybe not


seems like it didn't happen...lol

 

[Risen Star]

And with one pick the Sixers now have the most talented roster in the NBA.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

And with one pick the Sixers now have the most talented roster in the NBA.

I heard it went through... but they can't announce it yet.. so maybe its still in the air.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Belinelli to Charlotte for 22

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I guess that boston to sixers didn't happen... because the celts draft jaylen brown.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Sabonis & Oladipo to OKC for Serge Ibaka

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Sabonis & Oladipo to OKC for Serge Ibaka

I can't believe Orlando traded Oladipo for Ibaka, let alone the other pieces involved.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Wow, celts get jackson, and bentil in the second round... bentil may be the steal of the draft imo...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Wow, celts get jackson, and bentil in the second round... bentil may be the steal of the draft imo...

I like that guy, he can post and score in a variety of ways down low. He's small at 6'9 but he has some skills.

 

[jterrell]

I don't know about that JT. I mean, he shared minutes with Clarkson, Williams, Huerta and Young at both Guard positions. The Lakers did give him minutes but Clarkson got more minutes then did Russell and Williams was really not all that far behind. Huertas did have a higher APG ratio last year, but that doesn't change the fact that Russell was still ranked 4th among all rookies in that stat (3.3). Huerta was actually 3rd among all rookies (3.4). The case can actually be made that Huerta's success actually hurt Russell's stats but that's here nor there to me. One guy plays minutes and produces, the other guy plays minutes and produces. It's also true that Mudiay had better stats here as well but then again, he lead all Rookies in that stat but, does he show up in scoring or rebounding? Porzingis had a great rookie year and, IMO, was probably the ROY so no real argument from me on who had the better season but He's not a PG so his job, as a Rookie coming in, is not as difficult IMO. He isn't responsible for running the Offense. PG is a lot harder position to play, as a Rookie, in the NBA IMO. Same story with Townson.

Russell was not perfect but I don't think anybody is saying he was. He had a solid year as a Rookie. Top 10 among all Rookies in PPG, APG, 3 Pt%, FT%, SPG and MPG. That's not bad production.

There are maybe 3 or 4 plus players in most rookie classes. 7 guys in this one played more than 23.1 minutes per game. Russell was at 28mpg. His putting up top 10 stats over guys that didn't play much is pretty meaningless.

Russell was voted 9th best rookie after being drafted 2nd overall and he suffered no real injuries and was playing on a bad team that started him much of the year.

He had a lot of empty and meaningless stats. Stats that bad players get for bad teams all the time.

He still has a very high ceiling but his game is not very good as is and he is definitely not a PG at this point.

Clarkson actually had a better rookie season.

What Russell did do well was steal the ball. He is a long guard and has some defensive quickness. That is a part of his game that was a plus.
But offensively he was terribly inefficient as a scorer and his assist to turnover ratio suggests he is not a creator at all.


Good players can develop but generally the elite of the elite come in playing well.
Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Penny Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, Derrick Rose, DWade(played PG as a rookie). Lilliard, AI.

These guys came into the league and contributed in a way to be compared to the NBA at large not rookies.

I generally believe Russell was very underwhelming having actually watched him play. But I didn't like his game at OSU either. He's basically a slashing 2G.
My PG has to have 1 quality above all others, efficiency.
Even the most aggressive and wild arsed PG, Westbrook averaged over 5 apg as a rookie.
I just think we've seen enough to know DR needs to play the 2 and subsequently wasn't worth the 2nd overall pick.

In a re-draft I don't think he'd go top 5.