NBC: Stephen Jones denies that Dez Bryant threatened to miss time **merged**

[DandyDon52]

8 hours left and dez is ?

 

[Sydla]

I don't think a deal gets done and then it's all on Dez. He's already fired a shot across the bow with his tweet about skipping games. So I expect him to sit out games.

If he goes back on that, he loses any negotiating position he thought he might have. You can't threaten to do something, then go back on it. Because what's going to happen again is the Cowboys will tag him in 2016 and call his bluff again.

Bryant has painted himself into a very deep corner with his public tweets. I suspect he thought it might stir the Jones' but it might backfire on him. The tweet also once again shows a level of immaturity which further proves the Cowboys point about concerns and protections in the contract.

 

[BigWillie]

If Dez is truly serious about sitting out TC and games, I basically tell him, "here let me help you" by telling him if he doesn't report to prove he's in game shape, we will put you on the NFI list. He's then guaranteed no paychecks, until after week 6. No chance at recouping that money either.

If Dallas and Dez cannot come to a long term contract, then so be it. It happens. But to sit out games, when Dallas and Dez cannot even agree to a long term contract at that point, is just petty BS.

 

[DandyDon52]

If Dez is truly serious about sitting out TC and games, I basically tell him, "here let me help you" by telling him if he doesn't report to prove he's in game shape, we will put you on the NFI list. He's then guaranteed no paychecks, until after week 6. No chance at recouping that money either.

If Dallas and Dez cannot come to a long term contract, then so be it. It happens. But to sit out games, when Dallas and Dez cannot even agree to a long term contract at that point, is just petty BS.

exactly, I would not want him showing up game 1 or 2 after no TC and no PS.
What is NFI list. ?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Gee, having him for the entire season seems like a big one

Everybody sees things differently. If that's what you see, that's fine. I see it as the kind of reasoning we were an also ran for 10 years.

As an FYI, in the article, the premise was that we do this after losing 2 or 3 games. How does that translate into having him for the entire season?

 

[bark]

Things went into the dumpster the minute dez signed a new agent. Reports were he and the cowboys were close to working out a new long term contract until then.
I'm in the camp of that believes dez should sign the tag and show up for work. In two yrs he can shoot for the moon and btw, tag money isn't chicken feed.
It's looking more and more like that won't be the case.

 

[BigWillie]

exactly, I would not want him showing up game 1 or 2 after no TC and no PS.
What is NFI list. ?

Non-Football Injury list. Players have to sit out until week 6, minimum. No paychecks, and no recouping of money later with games played. Sort of like the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform List), which now that I think about, Dez would be more likely to go on if they went this route.

FYI, I know they won't do this, but it's certainly an option if Dez wants to really play hardball.

 

[xwalker]

Ahh. Yeah that does make sense now. I personally don't think it would be worth holding out for, but then again I'm not Dez.

If I know that I'm a world-class receiver at 26, I know that I'm going to get a huge contract in at most 2 years as long as I continue to do what I do. I understand the security issue, but that's what insurance is for -- I see others saying that he can get a $10+ million policy for decent rates, so I would think that covers the security issue...

A bigger issue than the security against injury, is that he will be 28 (turns 29 during the season) when he is a true free agent. Will a team give a big 5 or 7 year contract to a guy at that age? IIRC, the stats show that WRs tend to drop off at around 29.

 

[xwalker]

Here's something Dez may or may not have been blinded to by the leeches on him that refer to themselves as advisors: That extra million or two he is angling sooooo hard for is going to be long gone to the wind (given statistical probability along with his personal track record) in his later years, while glorious experiences on the gridiron will still be with him. No one should try to start reaching for sobstories about financially broke NFL vets with broken minds and bodies to relate to this situation: Dez is going to be a multimillionaire either way. But he could jeopardize something that you could never squander.

It's not about the actual money. It's about his ego. He wants to be the top paid WR in history in both average and guaranteed money.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

What he loses by not playing this year he doesn't care about.

Once he gets his guaranteed 40, he wins. He's not upset about missing out on 13, he's going to make it up. He could lose out on millions for two years straight. He'll make that up and then some from whomever pays him. He's made it clear 13 mil is chump change.

Note to self: Do not hire DallasDW00ds0n as my financial advisor.

 

[Redball Express]

There was a difference with Murray
He had been healthy one year, he is a RB with lots of miles on the tires and historically when a RB has the carries he had last year they drop off quickly
No mega deal for dez but if he is willing to play for market value which appears to be high 12 low 13 mil range then that's a fair deal
If he wants paid like CJ then I tag him, maybe twice and move on. There is a good argument to be made that's smarter than signing him but I also have respect for the players so I would rather sign him, if he wants market value

I see your points.

I guess tagging him 2 years in a row is the answer but not sure Dez wants to play by those rules.

Even though it's all legal under the rules set down by the NFL.

I just get very annoyed about how this all works.

Back when FA started..we went after Deon Sanders and paid him a Kings Ransom to be our CB, punt returner and occasional WR.

His contract sank this team..especially when the injuries occurred to his toe and he didn't go to training camp except to rehab and try to play during the season.

Didn't work and we finally released him and he went to Washington where he flatlined.

Same scenarios with Roy Williams and the guy we got from Seattle..forgot his name.

They all ended up injured and were way below what was needed at WR.

But Jones still footed the bill and the team moved backwards.

I just think it's the same thing with Dez.

Nothing personal and I enjoy watching Dez when he plays.

But against the best competition..Dez struggles.

Against .500 teams he excells.

So where do you set your line in the sand on that as a franchise?

I think the team has and from here on..

it's going to be difficult to keep everybody happy and the fans are going to be the losers depending on how far and how deep this all goes.

This is the part of the sport I really dislike anymore.

It's no longer about the competition and playing to win. It's about financial greed and personal egos.

I miss the old days and the old reasons to enjoy the game.

Just me.

 

[Doomsay]

I think that the team is worried about how an un-mentored Dez is going to handle an immense pile of money and an all of its attendant distractions. The franchise tag was a good way to test that concern without completely mortgaging the team's cap future.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think that the team is worried about how an un-mentored Dez is going to handle an immense pile of money and an all of its attendant distractions. The franchise tag was a good way to test that concern without completely mortgaging the team's cap future.

exactly........6 hours to go!

 

[erod]

exactly........6 hours to go!

Five actually.

 

[Sydla]

Note to self: Do not hire DallasDW00ds0n as my financial advisor.

He really struggles with basic math.

$13MM in 2015 + $15MM in 2016 + $40MM in a long term deal in 2017 = $78MM

$0MM in 2015 + $0MM in 2016 + $40MM in a long term deal in 2017 = $40MM

Huh?

 

[Kevinicus]

He really struggles with basic math.

$13MM in 2015 + $15MM in 2016 + $40MM in a long term deal in 2017 = $68MM

$0MM in 2015 + $0MM in 2016 + $40MM in a long term deal in 2017 = $40MM

Huh?

Fixed it for you.

 

[DandyDon52]

Five actually.

deadline is 4 pm ??

 

[DandyDon52]

Fixed it for you.

lol...... math is tough, I think dez is not very good with math either ?

 

[erod]

deadline is 4 pm ??

4 pm EST

 

[AsthmaField]

Fixed it for you.